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Title:You get surface noise in real life too
Notice:Let's be conformist
Moderator:GOVT02::BARKER
Created:Thu Jul 28 1988
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:550
Total number of notes:3847

337.0. "Recording techniques" by SEDOAS::STEPHEN_I () Mon Jan 20 1992 10:22

	I am interested in finding out some information about recording 
	techniques.  I have just read an article about Reference Records
	and the way they record music.  In the article there was a brief
	outline of the way the microphones were placed and what type of
	microphone they were.  They didn't use as many microphones as I 
	had exepected and they used mostly omidirectional mikes.

	In this setup, I can understand why when I listen to the music 
	at home I can 'picture' the various instruments and place their 
	positions relative to each other.

	So far so good !

	What happens when a band records a track in a recording studio
	using multi-track equipment.  In this case, the base and drums 
	may be recording, then the melody and the vocals on the top of 
	that.  Its then mixed together to produce the final stereo version
	that I buy and play at home.  In this second environment, does the 
	producer/engineer build the instruments/voices into a realistic 
	soundstage or is it all just mixed together into a mishmash of
	noise ?

	any help would be appreciated.

	Iain.
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337.1QUEEN are the masters of the Multi-Track songSUBURB::TAYLORGRIP: Freddie Mercury 24-Nov-1991Mon Jan 20 1992 10:4710
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    You must be talking about QUEEN!
    
    They are the best example of this complex multi-tracking of both the
    vocals & instriments.
    
    Bhohemian Rhapsody (Sp?) is a classic example of this.
    
    Grant
337.2and the rest...SEDOAS::STEPHEN_IMon Jan 20 1992 13:375
	I meant most rock bands.  Anything that isn't recorded live i.e.
	all the instruments at once.

	Iain.
337.3'Scuse the interjection, but...HEWIE::CHRISMy plant, Eric, OD'd on Grendel and Baby BioMon Jan 20 1992 15:1817
    
    
    Sorry to deviate slightly from the basenote, but can one of you
    enlighten me as to what is so special about a Calrec Ambisonic
    Microphone please?!!
    
    It's been mentioned several times in UK_MUSIC with regard to The Cowboy
    Junkies album, The Trinity Session, which was recorded in a church with
    the aforementioned mike.  BTW, I've never heard a CD with so much (dare
    I say it and mean it like someone else would mean it?!!! =;*)  ) er...
    *depth*.  It really is atmospheric.
    
    The album was apparently recorded live, so how was it done with such
    clarity and each part of the band standing out as if they had been
    recorded seperately?
    
    Chris.
337.4SUBURB::SCREENERRobert Screene, UK Finance EUCMon Jan 20 1992 18:2923
    Sad but true,
    
    On most studio mixing desks each instrument is recorded in mono and 
    there is a balance for each track between the left and right channels.  
    
    This merely adjusts the volume between the two speakers giving a 
    false position in the soundstage.
    
    Aparently only the drum kit escapes this and os recorded in stereo.  
    
    The real ambience is given to a stereo recording by the time delay
    between the two channels, so an instrument is head by one ear slightly
    before another hinting at reflections from walls.
    
    A new recording/mixing process called Q-Sound attempts to add such
    things at carefully selected frequencies with some complex algorithms.
    A relatively low cost for this box an license over that of extra mikes
    and tracks on each recorder.  An example of this process is Sting's  
    Soul Cages album.
    
    I still don't think is it a substitute for a decent 'real' stereo mix.
    
    Robert.