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332.1 | Why have a balance ctrl - I never use one ? | FUTURS::WATSON | Rik Watson | Sat Jan 04 1992 17:24 | 20 |
| One of the cleverest ways I've seen is used on the Naim Nait (You
thoughjt I was going to say Linn :-).
One channel has no balance and is hence fixed volume (X)
The other has a pot so you can get it's some where between X�Delta
and hence center the image.
CCT: Note - I know nothing about amp design at all.
L in -------+----------- out
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R
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Ground -----+----------- Ground
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Pot
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R in -------+----------- out
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332.2 | Taken on balance.... | BAHTAT::SALLITT | a legend in his lunchtime | Mon Jan 06 1992 12:01 | 39 |
| re .0....
Well, Mike, being an audio minimalist I would say go for a high quality
ganged pot (such as Penny and Giles or ALPS), and not have a balance
control at all.
Any imbalance you then hear between channels (other than deliberately
lop-sided recordings, e.g. some live) would be down to component
differences in L & R stages. You could probably fix this, and get a
better sound into the bargain, by systematically replacing resistors,
capacitors, and even internal wiring with the high grade types
available from Russ Andrews or Audio Synthesis, until you're happy. If
the amp's design is basically sound (no pun intended!) you should get
some very good results. You could also tweek the balance and improve
sound by changing the topolgy, e.g. by changing earthing arrangements.
If you then *still* need a balance control, try the following circuit:-
L in >----------------------------------> L out
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4.7K(?) fixed
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100K(?) linear pot,
wiper to ground
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4.7K(?) fixed
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R in >---------------------------------> R out
This way you never completely shut down one channel. The (?) against
the resistor values means you should choose the values to suit the
output impedance of the amp's line stage and the input impedance of
amp's power stage - the ideal place for the control. I would start as
high as you can and still keep some control, at least 10x power amp's
input impedance is as good a place to begin as any.
Have fun!
Dave
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332.3 | Headphones Query | CHEFS::STEPHENI | | Mon Jan 06 1992 15:37 | 15 |
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I've been meaning to ask this, and home-brew amps would appear
to be a good place.
I've built a simple passive preamp. It has two inputs, a volume
pot to the main output and a switched tape output that bypasses
the volume pot.
Question is, could I put a headphone socket between the volume
pot and the output sockets. Would the 2v signal be enough to
drive a pair of headphones (seinhiser 480), or will I have to
buy (or make) a headphone amplifier that slots into the tape
loop in the preamp ?
Iain.
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332.4 | Buy one.... | BAHTAT::SALLITT | a legend in his lunchtime | Mon Jan 06 1992 16:15 | 31 |
| Buy/build a headphone amp. It will be worth every penny. Unless you
plan to remove/bypass the socket when not in use, the contacts in the
main signal route that break when you plug the phones in will almost
certainly degrade the sound, and lose you some of the benefits of your
passive hook-up.
If you want a recommendation, the HiFi News/Record Review Headcase, at
around �80, is a gem. It is basically a 50mW class A amplifier, and is
designed to go into the tape loop via paralleled, gold-plated, in/out
sockets. I use Sennheiser 450's with no problem, so your newer 480's
should work OK.
The Headcase is good enough to reveal changes in the source
you won't hear without megabux speakers and amplification. It is
available on mail order through the HFN/RR Accesories Club; it is
perhaps cheaper to build your own, but you *could* spend that time
listening to music! It has a sort of sweet, valve-like class A sound,
which is ideal for the kind of inciveness that headphone listening
gives. However it will show up a poor source or programme material for
exactly what it is.
I have seen some small ads for the odd made up model and kit by
companies whose names now escape me. They weren't familiar and there
were no prices. The HFN/RR model, a Stan Curtis design, has been around
about 5 or 6 years - a long time in hifi!
QED also make one, about �50 I think. I don't know what it's like, but
the Sound Org in York no longer stock it as they weren't happy with
some aspect of it. Make of that what you will.
Dave
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332.5 | Thanks | SEDOAS::STEPHEN_I | | Mon Jan 13 1992 09:30 | 18 |
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Dave,
Thanks for the information onthe Headcase. I was in the shop
on Saturday dropping of my turntable and I asked about headphone
amps. They got the Moth products price list out and the Headcase
is sold by them. The RRP was 96.75, but the magazine wanted 81.00
so the shop has ordered one for me at 81.00.
Should be here by next Saturday and I can't wat to plug it in.
Another question. I have QED P1 Incon gold cables between the
CD-preamp and preamp-power amp. Should I use similar quality
cables to hook up the headcase ?
By the time I've got this set up completed, a large part of the
investment is going to be in the cables themselves.
Iain.
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332.6 | You may as well use the same | BAHTAT::SALLITT | a legend in his lunchtime | Mon Jan 13 1992 13:01 | 28 |
| re .5....
"Another question. I have QED P1 Incon gold cables between the
CD-preamp and preamp-power amp. Should I use similar quality
cables to hook up the headcase ?"
I'm not sure what you mean by "CD-preamp" and "preamp-power amp", but
I'm going to asume you mean the output and input connectors
respectively.
Since the Headcase should be installed as follows.....
CD player-------------->| |--------------->power amp
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Headcase
you should invest in similar quality cable for the second run if you
found it beneficial to use it with a single run. There will be no
degradation due to the Headcase, as the two pairs of phonos are simply
paralleled.
I don't know what this will add to the cost. Personally I'm not into
specialist cables, as they are often so system dependent that upgrading
a component could mean yet another hunt for a cable that works.
Enjoy the Headcase.
Dave
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332.7 | Its arrived.. at last. | SEDOAS::STEPHEN_I | | Fri Mar 06 1992 13:03 | 13 |
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Thanks for the recommendation Dave.
I got the headcase last night after a two month wait for some
strange problem at Moth products.
Plugged it into the tape loop on my home made preamp and sat
down to enjoy some music. Its great !
Next problem is finding the right speakers to get a similar sound
in the main system.
Iain.
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332.8 | If you find any, tell me.... | BAHTAT::SALLITT | a legend in his lunchtime | Fri Mar 06 1992 15:38 | 1 |
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