Conference hips::uk_audioo

    Not of much help but here goes my impressions...
    I've got a personal tape instead of CD because to hear a CD you have to
    buy it, but a tape can be copied from yours or a friends CD.
    I bought a good quality one (more expensive than your target, but worth
    the price). Mine is the Walkman D6C from Sony.
    It all depends on your listening habits. You can listen to music when
    moving or when moved. I listen to when moved to the mountains on
    weekends. I cannot have a full equipment there since it's not my home
    (my parents' in law). If do you listen when moving, that one is a little
    bit bulky.
    
    One more thing, the headphones coming with the D6C are good enough, and
    you "can" move with then quite well, but when I listen "seriously" my
    Sony's MDR-V7 improve the results dramatically, and even the background
    noise (which can be heard in silent nights) is masked absolutely.
    
    Thats more expensive, but you have to decide what do you really want.
    
    (I've other cheaper personal tape player for bicicling).
    
    Jose

    ref -1  But what about the copyrights ?
    
    (I actually agree with you though re the tape player....
    you could also get a stereo radio built in to either a tape or CD player too!
    
    Tim

    When I go to the mountains I listen to the frogs and the toads and
    the birdies and the crickets.  Especially the crickets.  They do it
    all with their hind legs you know.  8^)
    
    Bill
    

I would like to add two comments to note .1.

First of all, as already pointed out, the idea of tape is not to allow
us all to run around and not pay for the music we listen to. This point
has probably been beaten to death in lots of notes in every conference
having anything to do with audio.

Second, anyone who bicycles while listening to a personal stereo either
needs their head examined or will soon have their head and the rest of
their body examined in an emergency room soon. Don't do it!

Hasving said that, I would go a good quality CDplayer. However, this is
also partly a reflection of the fact that I don't have a CD player in
my main system. Aportable would therefore fill both r�les!

Cheers,
Tim

    OK, that's enough !
    re .2
    Copyrights are protected if you don't do business of the copies.
    Who didn't tape a record or CD from a friend's???. How many of you
    after listening a good piece in a friend home reject to copy it and
    rush for buying???. Be honest, you buy the same disc as your friend
    when it is so good you want to have it in prime condition, when you
    want the best quality. Another kind of behaviour is to go to the Soho
    with a folding table and hundreds of dubbings to make some quids.
    As you know the SCMS in DAT allows one digital copy, but no more from
    the copied tape. I do exactly that, though in analogue.
    re .3
    I do listen also the natural sounds, even the natural silences, but try
    to go out by night with "Conferring with the moon" or some from Michael
    Franks...
    re .4
    I asume only adults do that. You have to know which road to choose,
    with 1 m of sidewalk at least, in quiet days, and with extreme
    prudence.
    I think it's more dangerous to go talking to a fried or two, invading
    the road.
    Nevertheless I don't recommend to do it to others, I did just say what
    I do sometimes.
    Jose

    
    
    Long time since I've had access to this conference (had the hassle of
    going back to college! =;*)  ), but here's my addition to this note for
    what it's worth!
    
    
    I was looking for a personal tape as my old one was knackered to say
    the least.  Of the ones that I really liked the look and sound of, not
    one of 'em was under ninety-quid.  My tape deck is fairly good (by my
    standards!) but in order to get really good quality sound out of the
    thing I'd need to buy new pre-recorded tapes (rather than taping 'em
    from my CD).  This argument sorted out in my mind, I decided to look
    around for a portable CD (mostly 'cos most of the stuff I have is on CD
    and you really can't beat the sound of it - no dodgy comments from the
    vinyl only mob in here! =;*)))))))   ).
    
    I had a listen to a few Sony's, but they were like a breeze block with
    a battery pack bolted on!  Then I saw the new Technics player (it has
    X,P and 700 in the name somewhere, but can't remember where and I don't
    have the machine on me at the moment!).  It's about the size of a CD
    with a bit extra in the X and Y directions!  And it really is only a
    bit bigger than the CD it plays...most people will have seen it, it's
    been advertised in the newspapers a lot.
    
    Anyway, it sounds *great*, much better than anything I've listened to
    on the move before, and at just under �200 it's not *that* expensive. 
    You get a three funtion (+volume) remote on the headphone cable, plus
    twenty-odd track memory, random and resume play.  It's got enhanced
    bass stuff on it, and a switch that cuts out the noise that gets on
    people's nerves on trains and busses etc...
    
    It's great for walking with, but not if you're walking round busy
    shopping centres getting it thrown about too much.  The batteries on it
    last for about two hours (internal, 3 hour charge at the mains), or you
    can boost that to six hours with two AA (HP7) batteries.  These
    externals only add about the width of the batteries to the end of the
    player, so no hassle there.
    
    So, if you need a good personal player, and have CD's, go for this
    (IMVHO!).
    
    Chris.

    This is a bit of an idiot question, but I'll ask anyway. My pretty
    basic Sony Walkman is now driving the tape at an uneven speed which
    sounds pretty ghastly. I'm fairly sure it's not the batteries - I'm
    using nicads. The unit has regular use for a bit over a year.
    
    Am I right in thinking it's had it and replacement time has arrived?
    If so, what's good at the cheaper end of the market?
    
    
    Rod

    Rod,
    	Define cheaper (�20, �50, �100) ?
    
    	There was a review of a few players in the 30-80 price range in one
    of the mag's a fre months ago. I can copy it for you if you like.
    
    	Rik

    That review sounds interesting; may I see it? My mailstop is FYO.
    
    "Cheaper" means more like �50 than �100, though I could be tempted by
    the right salestalk: I'm as keen on toys as anyone else.
    
    
    Rod

    
    I've had my current Sony "WM-A602/B602" for about 2 years. It was about
    60-70 quid, but I also bought some better headphones "MDR-32" which
    were about 20-25 quid.
    
    The thing I like about this model is that it is extremely small (it
    fits easily into a shirt pocket), and the sound quality was as good or
    better than the few other models I tried out. It runs for 6-8 hours
    on a single Alkaline AA battery.
    
    Trevor