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Title:You get surface noise in real life too
Notice:Let's be conformist
Moderator:GOVT02::BARKER
Created:Thu Jul 28 1988
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:550
Total number of notes:3847

223.0. "'Sticky' Arm" by JUNO::WOOD (Scalpel, scissors, replace head .......) Wed Nov 07 1990 16:32

 I own a Garrard sp25 (dont know if sp is correct !!) turnatble, and when it 
gets close to the inside of a record, the arm just seems to stick, only a 
slight amount, undetectable by hand, but noticed by a record. 

 I dont want to rplace this as my vinyl collection is only small, but I would
like to repair it if possible & cheap.

  Does anyone have any ideas as to what the problem could be ?

		 Alan
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223.1Bias control?PEKING::GERRYTWed Nov 07 1990 16:566
    Hello Alan,
    
    Have you checked the Bias compensation device to see it's set correctly
    for the weight of the cartridge?
    
    Tim
223.2Bias compensation deviceJUNO::WOODScalpel, scissors, replace head .......Thu Nov 08 1990 10:066
Tim

 I would do if I knew what it is !! So basically the answer is no.

		 Alan
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223.3SQGUK::NOCKfondue..cuddly toy..TV..wine rack..Thu Nov 08 1990 11:5212
    I had an old Mk II SP25 inherited from a really old (early 70s) HMV
    stereo unit. I think it developed the same problem you have. I don't
    think it was anything to with bias compensation (mind you I never did
    fix it...).  There was a definate (if only slight) 'sticking' of the
    arm at a particular point towards the centre of the deck that suggested
    something mechanical, rather than a setup problem.
    
    The auto-pickup broke as well, so I gave it to my brother.
    
    Paul
    
    
223.4FORTY2::SHIPMANThu Nov 08 1990 11:596
Try taking a look below the top plate, where the armtube wires come out of the
arm.  There's probably a loop of wire that should move freely as the arm moves
across the record.  Check that this loop isn't fouling against anything.  Even
the gentlest contact with nearby parts will affect stability.

Nick
223.5FORTY2::SHIPMANThu Nov 08 1990 12:048
Ah!  Automatic armlift at end of side!  (I can barely remember the SP25.)  If
it senses end-of-side mechanically, the problem is *much* more likely to be
something associated with the sensing than with the armtube wiring - you could
probably wire it up with mains cable before the wiring affected it.  See if
there's any gunge around the armlift mechanism, particularly where it interacts
with the arm.

Nick
223.6Ah! MemoriesWOTVAX::BATTYThe Seaweed is Always Greener...Tue Nov 13 1990 11:1330
    Oh! Happy Days! The SP25 (MkII) was my very first "Hi-Fi" deck.
    
    From memory, the areas to look at are:--
    
    1. The lifting mechanism, which has a little curved plate near the 
    arm pivot, and an adjustable pin to give the lift. Check that 
    there is clearance throughout the travel, no hardened gunge or 
    grease giving lift near the end.
    
    2. Definitely check the pickup wires where they exit under the 
    baseplate. If they have any restriction, or are twisting too 
    tightly, they could cause the symptoms.
    
    3. The 'auto lift' at end of play. This is driven by a huge cog 
    under the baseplate. It is usually smothered with a beige grease, 
    which sets rock hard over the years. Clean it all off, reapply 
    light grease (Vaseline etc.) and cycle it through a few times.
    
    To check these, you need to lift out the deck, so while you are at 
    it, 'eyeball' everything else underneath for obvious problems. 
    When refitting the deck, make sure that the three spring 'shock 
    mounts' go back into the circular depressions in the base, and 
    that the arm wires aren't catching on the baseboard. 
    
    If all else fails, try looking round second-hand and junk shops. I 
    bought an SP25 MkV complete with good condition Shure M75 for my 
    kids' school about 2 years ago. I haggled it down from �7.50 to 
    �5.50, and it's still going strong!
    
    Mike in Warrington.
223.7Not Vaseline!FORTY2::SHIPMANTue Nov 13 1990 14:478
re .6:

Don't use Vaseline as a lubricant.  It isn't one.  It creeps away from the
points of contact and permits scraping and wear.

Bog standard grease like Castrol LM might do the trick.

Nick