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Title:You get surface noise in real life too
Notice:Let's be conformist
Moderator:GOVT02::BARKER
Created:Thu Jul 28 1988
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:550
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217.0. "Linn Numeric A/D D/A" by OVAL::WATSONR () Tue Oct 16 1990 16:38

    Well it would seem the rumers are true ... Linn have been working on a
    digital audio product. It's called the Numerik and is a D/A and A/D
    converter. But your piggy banks can relax - Linn won't sell you one and
    if they did it would cost a cool 25,000 (not 2,500) - makes the new
    Naim pre-amp look pretty cheap...
    
    There is an interview with the designer Neil Gibson in this months
    (Nov'90) Hi-Fi Review. (A prize for evey rude word said against Linn or
    Naim).
    
    The Numerik is a large box (Size of a PDP-8 - Dual height VME bus for
    you youngsters). From the PCB layout I'd say its uses Bhur-Brown (sp)
    converters and MC68020 CPU in a four card design (2 per channel I
    guess).
    
    The Numerik was said to sound - undigital.
    
    They use the new Carol Kidd CD (which was recorded using the A/D side
    of a Numeric). The CD transport was a ``top-of-the-range'' player.
    
    What they DIDN'T say was whether the NumeriK was better than LP-12 ...
    
    Don't expect digital products from Linn for at least 2 years - if ever.
    They said it (the Numerik) would cost at least 5000-00 if scaled down
    (= ULA / ASIC technology (Uncomitted Logic Array / Application Specific
    IC))
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217.1Professional Use Only...SKIWI::EATONMarketing - the rubber meets the skyTue Oct 16 1990 23:007
As I understand the Numerik, Linn have had this product for some time and have
sold it to recording studios...

Persistant rumours I'm hearing are saying that Linn are developing a 
*digital* filter for the LP12 to handle the problem of record noise.

Anyone else heard these ?
217.2Wait, but don't hold your breath....BAHTAT::SALLITTDave @RKG, 831-3117Thu Oct 18 1990 14:0032
    re .0/.1
    
    I had sight of a Numerik whilst visiting Linn back in April. It looked
    about the size of a rackmount DECserver 500, was unpainted, etc. I
    hoped I'd be offered a peek behind the covers, but no chance!
    
    The latest copy of Linn's publicity mag "The Record", (and HiFi Review 
    and Audiophile) have interviews with Neil Gibson, the Numerik's
    designer. So far, Linn do not intend to sell these things to studios as
    they feel they will lose control over their application; went a Numerik
    is loaned to a studio, someone from Linn goes along to check where
    degradation can slip in from the studio gear itself, and to monitor eq,
    mixdown, etc. to make sure the classy digital master they help to
    produce doesn't get screwed up later.
    
    Re the rumour about a digital filter, Ivor Tiefenbrun refers to the
    concept in an article in "The Record", but no more than that. Whilst IT 
    says that current methods for cleaning up old analogue recordings have 
    many drawbacks, he sees no reason why it shouldn't work, provided the
    industry is allowed to produce a product that works, as opposed to one
    that'll sell for a big margin now (that was always IT's main gripe
    about CD - not that it couldn't work, but that market pressures have
    forced the public into accepting an inferior standard). I wouldn't mind
    betting that Linn will have something out before long, for reprocessing
    old recordings to today's standards; it'll be a pro machine, and better
    than anything currently available. Linn seem to know what they're doing
    with digital; apparently CDs produced using the Numerik in the studio
    sound better than many so-called audiophile CDs.
    
    Dave