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| Title: | You get surface noise in real life too |
| Notice: | Let's be conformist |
| Moderator: | GOVT02::BARKER |
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| Created: | Thu Jul 28 1988 |
| Last Modified: | Mon Jun 02 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 550 |
| Total number of notes: | 3847 |
111.0. "Linns Comparision of LP & CD." by MALLET::JEFFERY (K-I-L-L-E-D, Revoked) Fri Aug 11 1989 20:14
I went to Dave Melton's house Wednesday Night to listen to his new
Linn Axis system (see What's Lurking in your living room for details),
and to compare some tracks with the Phillips CD-473 in my house.
I must admit that I am very impressed with the Axis, it seems to
offer a very good stepping stone between the REGA and the LP12.
I'd say that the system as a whole had major advantages over my
own. The stereo effects were very good indeed, whereas I get none
of this on my system (partly due to speaker placement).
Anyway, we had a go at comparing CD and LP. I think I mentioned
earlier in the Bristol HiFi Review that Linn demo'd the difference
between a Linn Axis and a �1500 Denon CD player, so we decided to
repeat the test. The track was Fast Car from Tracy Chapmans album
(can't remember the name). As the Linn guy 'briefed' us, we were
listening for the emotion in the song, and generally trying to see
if the music "moved" us!!
Playing the CD first, we were very impressed, the sound was clear
and well controlled, it sounded pretty good in short. I started
wondering if the Axis was up to this contest!
Moving on the the LP however, we were both amazed at how different the
sound was. First of all the music sounded *subjectively* slower, almost
as if we had more time to listen to the music. It was generally a lot
more relaxing to listen to, to sound cliched, the music "invited you
in". Whilst the record sounded subjectively lighter in the higher
frequencies, it sounded a lot more in control. It was almost as if the
CD put a lot of noise up in the higher frequencies. Finally, there
was a lot more emotion in the song.
The difference between the two formats on this carefully chosen
track was absolutely stunning. I intend to try it on my own Stereo
tonight. What is even more amazing is that the recording as all
Digital, so you would have thought that the Vinyl would be at a
dis-advantage.
So, If anyone with access to CD and LP, and copies of Tracy Chapman's
LP, cares to experiment, then I'd be interested to see what you
thought!
Cheers.
Mark.
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| 111.1 | Hear, Hear! | UBOHUB::MELTON | | Tue Aug 15 1989 13:36 | 28 |
| I'd just like to reinforce what Mark said in .0 and add a couple
of thoughts of my own.
I'm not quite sure what I was expecting but I was certainly very
interested in the opportunity to do a direct comparison between
CD and LP. On my own system, no less! I think Mark described it
well when he spoke of "having more time to listen to the music".
The difference was very obvious indeed.
We also tried the same experiment with a couple of other albums,
chosen for no other reason than they were available in both formats;
Negotiations and Love Songs by Paul Simon and The Joshua Tree by
U2. We noticed a similar effect, although not as marked, on the
Paul Simon tracks we tried but not on the U2. In fact U2 sounded
better on CD, possibly because the frequency balance on the LP was
different leading to a somewhat muffled sound.
Conclusions? Linn apparently chose their demo track extremely well
but to me the point is proven. I do intend to buy a CD player sometime
in the not too distant future - chiefly due to the difficulty of
buying classical LPs in Basingstoke - but this experiment means
I shall be very careful about selecting which one to buy.
Now I'd better go and update What's Lurking.
Dave M.
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| 111.2 | Make up your own mind. | VESTA::CARPENTER | Genius is second nature | Tue Aug 15 1989 14:22 | 22 |
| I agree with the comments so far and would like to go further and add
that the _type_ of music you listen to will affect the comparison.
LP reproduction, in general, is more `involving' and `emotional'
CD repoduction, in general, is more `dynamic' and `clear'
Therefore a Tracy Chapman album suits LP better than CD, but a more
rock orientated album may well suit the CD format.
I'd doubt the Linn man would have been so keen to try QUEENSR�CHE'S
OPERATION:Mindcrime or the GTR album, both of which are exceptionally
well recorded and sound noticably better on CD.
Stephen.
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| 111.3 | ne na ne na | SUBURB::COLEJ | Gorby, please nuke Hull! | Fri Sep 15 1989 14:43 | 10 |
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One Linn agent uses a Shostocovitch record up in Hull to demonstrate
the difference in information between CD and Disc- Apparently on
the vinyl recording, you can hear an ambulance going past where
the recording took place in the background, in beautiful stereo,
yet the cd version does not have this, apparently.
juju
xxxx
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| 111.4 | Is this a lemon ? | CRATE::WATSON | Blood on the Rooftops | Mon Jun 03 1991 10:47 | 8 |
| Linn are/may anounce their long awaited (by me anyway) CD player at the
Chicago Hi-Fi show ... they say it's not as good as an LP-12 but it's
for those people who ``must have one''.
On a different note I heard the Kairn a few weeks ago - simply better -
anyone want to buy a LK-1...
Rik
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