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Title:You get surface noise in real life too
Notice:Let's be conformist
Moderator:GOVT02::BARKER
Created:Thu Jul 28 1988
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:550
Total number of notes:3847

107.0. "Do you believe reviews?" by SUBURB::COLEJ () Wed Jul 26 1989 18:00

    
    I thought that I would liketo openup on the topic of hi-fi reviews
    and of there relative usefulness. I do not think one currently exists,
    and would like to hear from people who are happy with their equipment,
    even though the latest "audiophile & snobbery" magazine has just
    given their own choice a personal slating.
    
    I believe I am one!
    
    I own some Wharfedale Diamond Ritz and to me they give me every
    thing that I could wish from a cheapish pair of speakers. However,
    I don't believe that I have ever seen a good review of them.
    
    Does anyone have similar experienes or ought I go for a Ear test
    soon.
    
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107.1Never read them myself ;-)LARVAE::JEFFERYK-I-L-L-E-D, RevokedThu Jul 27 1989 09:5519
    
    Well, I own the well acclaimed Wharfedale Diamonds and am very pleased
    with them. I think the problem the HiFi mags found was that they
    expected something as unconventional as the Diamonds were (when
    they were released). What they got was a good, competent speaker,
    and in a relative way, they were probably disappointed.
    
    HiFi Review, (the best HiFi mag I've read, and still not that good)
    slated the cartridge I just bought. In the end, I believed my ears
    instead of their reviews, and bought the cartridge (a REGA Bias).
    
    I'm also interested in the usefulness of reviews in general. There
    is a choice between subjective and objective reviews. Subjective
    reviews bring into doubt, the opinions of the reviewer. Objective
    reviews bring into doubt, the validity of the measurements used.
    
    What do the people think!!
    
    Mark.
107.2Always trust your earsVESTA::CARPENTERGenius is second natureThu Jul 27 1989 12:3515
    When coosing my CD player and amp I read a number of different
    magazines and from the reviews selected a number of components to
    audition. The important thing is to read at lest two different reviews
    of the same item before making any sort of decision and don't listen to
    the reviewers final thumbs up/down statement, just look at the comments
    made about the type of sound the item produces and see if you like your
    music thay way.
    
    For the record the amp & CD I bought (AR A-04 & Technics SLP-350) sound
    great but my tape deck and speakers (Yamaha KX-300 & Celestion DL6)
    were not given good reviews but sounded fine to my ears, so I bought
    them.
    
    
    Stephen. 
107.3Hear, hear...no pun intendedBAHTAT::SALLITTDave - @RKG & ICI, 0642432193Thu Jul 27 1989 14:4935
    The consensus seems to be that the only review that counts is the
    buyer's. Magazine reviews are often an insult to the reader's
    intelligence in their avoidance of technical pitfalls via omission,
    or contain so much technical detail that the main objective of the
    item being reviewed is obscured. That's not to say they're not enter-
    taining, but at best magazine reviews should be used only to compile 
    a shortlist of what to audition.
    
    Also most magazines now tread a wary path between approval and
    otherwise of products they review, lest they suffer the anger of
    their advertisers. Even HiFi Review is becoming part of the
    establishment; when it was The Flat Response it was far more
    provocative. I long for old days at Popular HiFi (now defunct) when
    the editor, one Paul Benson, stated in his editorial that most of
    the kit advertised in his magazine was rubbish! He didn't get fired,
    but let's say no one stood in the way of his leaving. Trouble is,
    he was most likely right up to a point. The Linn/Naim/religion
    controversy was in full flight then; not always informative but
    a good read.
    
    It's the novices I feel sorry for. It was bad enough when they were
    only intimidated by the old, analogue-orientated jargon, but now
    they have all the crap that's spouted (both pro and anti) digital
    audio to deal with as well. Couple that with dealers more interested
    in imposing their ideas on to buyers, and the image hifi has in the
    UK of being the preserve of a few well-heeled eccentrics, it's no
    surprise that people will spend 100's to watch the trash Sky pours
    forth, but won't take audio seriously as worthwhile home entertainment.
    They certainly get no help from today's mags.
    
    I have feeling things are better elsewhere in Europe, in North America
    and other parts of the world. Any non-UK readers out there to agree
    or otherwise?
    
    Dave