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Title:You get surface noise in real life too
Notice:Let's be conformist
Moderator:GOVT02::BARKER
Created:Thu Jul 28 1988
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:550
Total number of notes:3847

82.0. "The Perfect System" by VULCAN::MACKENZIE () Mon May 08 1989 14:47

I can appreciate that aesthetes of classical music aspire to a
system which will produce a 'natural' sound.  Orchestras, etc are
almost never amplified so the 'natural' sound will depend solely
upon the sound index of the your favourite concert hall. 

However, my requirements are somewhat different, the music I
prefer to listen to is always amplified and not generally in
venues in which the acoustics were the primary concern.  My
request, therefore, is for suggestions for a system which will
handle these equally difficult conditions.  That is to say that I
would like a system which will produce undistorted bass that can
be felt all the way down to about 10 Hz; a good strong mid-range
also with little or no distortion; and finally a top end which is
clean up to about 15,000 Hz at which point the venues acoustics
will cause feedback. 

To keep things in perspective I will suggest a budget of �1500.


	Graham 
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82.1watch your foundations, thenBAHTAT::SALLITTDave - @RKG & ICI, 0642432193Mon May 08 1989 19:0820
    Good bass, that is bass that plays tunes and is not just an lf grunt,
    comes expensive.
    
    What kind of music are you hoping to reproduce?
    
    What source(s) do plan to use? Within the budget you mention, you
    are unlikely to get more than one source *and* the bass you want.
    Even then you're limited to CD or LP. The type of music you like
    may influence your choice here, as not everything's available on
    CD yet; I have in mind reggae and Jamaican dub recordings, which
    have the spectral content you refer to but only offer a real choice
    on LP.
    
    Find a dealer who will dem some choices using your recordings. You
    may find that the last couple of octaves aren't as important to
    relating to the music as the tunefulness of the bass - in which
    case you'll save a heckuvalot of money.

    Dave    
    
82.2LARVAE::JEFFERYWhy do birds suddenly appear?Tue May 09 1989 20:329
    Surely, there is more to music than just frequency response!
    
    I agree with .1 that a good bass is more important than a low bass.
    
    What about T i m i n g and Rhythmn ?
    
    Just me tuppenceworth.
    
    Mark
82.3and the tunes...BAHTAT::SALLITTDave - @RKG & ICI, 0642432193Tue May 09 1989 21:0322
    re .2....
    
    Too true. Timing, rhythm and pitch are more important than frequency
    response, dynamic range, etc. that many hifi manufacturers tout
    as essential - probably because they don't meet the musical criteria.
    You'd have a hard time convincing someone steeped in "traditional"
    hifi lore, though - even with a dem.
    
    Also, (my .1 notwithstanding), .0 is unlikely to get speakers to
    produce tuneful bass that deep for �1500, never mind a system.
    That's why I suggest .0 does some listening to discover if this
    arbitrary 10hz is important; �1500 should buy a great system, even
    with more than one source, that should provide years of pleasure,
    even if it doesn't go down to 10hz.

    I'm not saying .0 wouldn't get a system for �1500 that goes down
    to 10hz; I just have the feeling he'd want to replace it within
    six months.
    
    dave