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Title: * BASINGSTOKE - Gateway to Wessex *
Notice:BASINGSTOKE - John Arlott lived here - then left, I wonder why
Moderator:COMICS::CORNEJ
Created:Wed Jul 27 1988
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:925
Total number of notes:5875

782.0. "Air cooler/Humidifier, anyone?" by WAYOUT::LOAT (Stop throwing those bloody spears!) Mon Jul 25 1994 14:06

    
    Now we're in the middle of the long hot summer (hopefully!) I'm looking
    for a humidifier/air cooler for use at home.
    
    Where-ever I go (HomeBase, Texas, B&Q, Comet, Currys, Electriciy Board
    etc. etc.) they always say they've got *de*humidifiers, but nothing for
    air cooling!
    
    A small portable air-conditioning unit is at least �500, which is a bit
    expensive to say the least. The sort of thing I'm after cools the air
    by evaporation of the water you put in (don't ask me how it does it,
    magic probably!)
    
    I've see one unit which fits under a desk (doesn't it Trevor!) which
    can be used as a fan, an air-cooler, or a heater, but can't find
    anything like this anywhere.
    
    Anyone seen anything like this for sale on their travels around the
    Basingstoke/Reading area?
    
    I would have thought it's something that you could make a fortune
    selling in the current climate, but no-one I've tried is selling
    anything like this.
    
    Thanx
    
    Steve.
    
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782.1FORTY2::PALKAMon Jul 25 1994 18:186
    You can cool the air by evaporation, but it wont make you much more
    comfortable in the current weather as you will be increasing the
    humidity. The main benefit of air conditioning is that it reduces the
    humidity - this is much more important than reducing the temperature.
    
    Andrew
782.2WAYOUT::LOATStop throwing those bloody spears!Tue Jul 26 1994 09:1911
    
    re .-1
    
    The air coming out of the evaporation air cooler I've seen is so cold
    that the people who use it don't have any water in it at the moment, as
    it's too cold to blow on them directly!
    
    Anyone seen these things for sale anywhere?
    
    Steve.
    
782.3TASTY::JEFFERYChildren need to learn about X in schoolWed Jul 27 1994 08:5820
You could have some muslin dipped in a bowl of water, with the end
hanging down in front of a fan. If you turn the fan on, then it
will blast out cool water vapour, which should have the effect.
               

             +--+
+------------|+ |
|            || |
| Water Bowl || |
+-------------+ |
                |
                 \
FAN -->>>>>>      |
                   \
                    |
                     \

If you try it, let me know if it works!

Mark
782.4COMICS::FISCHERLife's a big banana sandwichWed Jul 27 1994 09:572
either that or you'll keep cool by having a constant fine
spray of cold water hitting you in the face...
782.5KERNEL::COFFEYJThe Uk CSC Unix Girlie.Wed Jul 27 1994 10:2213
> this is much more important than reducing the temperature.

I assure you ice cold air, whether humid or not, is nice and refreshing. 

re fan idea, isn't a bowl of water over an electrical fan slightly 
dodgy, or was someone trying this out in the DEC park loading 
bay yesterday? 


If anyone comes across one of the wheelable heater/cooler/fan ones like 
Steve's describing I'm on for buying one too... they really are the business.

Jo.
782.6Try Viking Direct ...ROBSON::PATTISON_M$on error then RTFMWed Jul 27 1994 10:376
    Hi,
    	I just got the latest Viking Direct catalogue (an office supplies
    company) and they have a portable AC/de-humidifier in there for �399
    (RRP �699). I can get their number for you tomorrow if you want.
    
    Martyn.
782.7FORTY2::PALKAWed Jul 27 1994 12:3813
    When you evaporate water to cool the air you wont get much below the
    dew point. Warm, humid air has quite a high dew point, and if you
    continuously add water vapour you will raise that point. (I wish I
    could remember how to convert rh and temperature to the dew point!)
    
    You can get ultrasonic humidifiers that give out a stream of cooler,
    saturated air - they look as if they are blowing out steam, but it is
    cool.
    
    If you could get hold of a supply of dry ice, then blowing a fan over
    that would be very effective.
    
    Andrew
782.8The culpritCOMICS::PARRYTrevor ParryWed Jul 27 1994 12:589
    All this talk about raising the temperature and stuff is a bit
    irrelevant as we use it in the office which is HUGE, so there's not
    much chance of it having much effect beyond our area.
    
    The system in discussion cost �99 from Texas about a year ago.  I've
    seen another one (rebadged) at the Basingstoke Computer Auctions which
    went for about �40 so they hold their value well.
    
    tmp
782.9WAYOUT::LOATStop throwing those bloody spears!Thu Jul 28 1994 10:0518
    
    re .-1
    
               <<< Note 782.8 by COMICS::PARRY "Trevor Parry" >>>
                                -< The culprit >-
    
    Yup, it's all your fault!
    
    I can't believe that in this weather, no-one is selling this sort of
    equipment.
    
    �The system in discussion cost �99 from Texas about a year ago.
    
    Unfortunately, Texas don't stock any humidifiers or air cooling
    devices. Looks like I'll have to carry on being hot.
    
    Steve.
    
782.10get 'em while their 'ot..UBOHUB::HUTCHINGS_POnly ME..Thu Jul 28 1994 14:449
    re: .8 "so they hold their value well"
    
    hmmmm...�99 - �40 = loss of �59..more than 50%...
    
    damn fine value for money
    
    many :-)
    
    Hutch
782.11COMICS::PARRYTrevor ParryThu Jul 28 1994 15:496
    If you've been to an auction you'll realise that they hold their value
    extremely well.  I'd have expected to pay about �5 for it.  Stuff like
    MS-DOS goes for about �2.  A desk worth about �80 went for �20 (it
    might have been less cos I was the only person that bid for it :-(
    
    tmp
782.12COMICS::FISCHERLife&#039;s a big banana sandwichThu Jul 28 1994 18:387
Steve,

why don't you just turn your workstation off. That way it doesn't 
generate any heat. You may also want to try turning your colleagues'
workstations off.

Ian
782.13TASTY::JEFFERYChildren need to learn about X in schoolMon Aug 15 1994 13:071
You turn my workstation off, and I poke you in the eye!