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Title: * BASINGSTOKE - Gateway to Wessex *
Notice:BASINGSTOKE - John Arlott lived here - then left, I wonder why
Moderator:COMICS::CORNEJ
Created:Wed Jul 27 1988
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:925
Total number of notes:5875

512.0. "Basingstoke Minature Railway" by PAPERS::CORNE (John Corne - Product & Technology group) Tue Nov 26 1991 13:44

I walked under the Viables roundabout for the first time today.  In the middle
is the shortest railway line I've ever seen.  Its all of 10 feet long, standard
gauge in fairly good condition and obviously placed there for a reason.

Anyone know why its there?

Jc
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512.1Any train buffs out there ?KERNEL::SHELLEYRThere are always optionsTue Nov 26 1991 14:394
    I undersatand that there used to be a line down to Viables from
    Basingstoke station. I don't know where it went.
    
    Roy
512.2KERNEL::MENDELSOHNGreg Mendelsohn, Programming SupportTue Nov 26 1991 15:3513
	
	It went from Basingstoke to Alton, via the bit of railway that has
	got marooned in the middle of the Viables roundabout.

	You can see where it crossed the Farleigh Rd (B3046) going into
	Cliddesden as the right hand side of the railway bridge still exists
	there.

	From there it went up a shallow hill to the old station in Cliddesden
	and then onto Alton with stations at a few more villages imbetween
	(I suppose)...

	Greg
512.3For more info ...KERNEL::FLANDERSDBoogie my speakers awayWed Nov 27 1991 09:028
    
    If you were to frequent the wine bar in the Viables Craft Centre
    (called Porters), you would find that their menus have details of the
    old railway line from Basingstoke to Alton, and also about a film which
    was made around the Viables railway staion in c.1937.
    
    It seems that the railway never made much money and was removed in
    about 1950.
512.4Oh Mr Porter What Shall We Do etc etc.KERNEL::OSBORNEWed Nov 27 1991 15:189
    The film in question was something like; "Oh Mr Porter", and there was
    a song from that film which was very popular during those times.
    
    The film was focused around a railway bridge which stood where the
    underpass from Cranbourne Lane goes to the center of the said
    roundabout. I have a feeling that Will Hay or something like that was
    the star of the film.
    
    Dave
512.5COMICS::WEGGWhen the snowman brings the snowThu Nov 28 1991 09:2514
    "Oh Mr. Porter" did star Will Hay and was made in 1937, I have a copies
     of almost all of Will Hay's films - there's an admission!
    
    The story was set in Northern Ireland but actually filmed at a piece
    of line in the South of England that had just closed. It may well have
    been the one at Viables - a friend of mine knows exactly where but he
    has moved to New Zealand and I'm reluctant to ring him to ask. I do
    know that the station mentioned in Will Hay's biography is NOT the
    correct one.
    
    If none of the previous repliers object, I'll cross-post this note
    in the Industrial Archaeology conference (SILK::IND_ARCH).
    
    Ian.
512.6nit pickingKERNEL::SHELLEYRThere are always optionsThu Nov 28 1991 11:575
    Interesting stuff. I noticed a slight conflict Ian in Dave's earlier
    reply. He mentioned that the line was closed in the 1950's but the film
    used a line that had just closed in 1937 ????
    
    Roy
512.7Quite right to pick nits - my excuses...KERNEL::FLANDERSDBoogie my speakers awayThu Nov 28 1991 12:419
    
    I could very easily be wrong about the closure dates (I was repeating
    them from slightly inhebriated memory). The information came from the
    menu at Porters wine bar (named after the Oh Mr. Porter film I
    believe). In the wine bar they do also have maps of the old line with
    stations at Cliddesden adn Lasham (and maybe 1 or 2 others) and also
    the timetables and some posters
    
    Dave
512.8COMICS::WEGGWhen the snowman brings the snowFri Nov 29 1991 09:1917
       Curiosity got the better of me, and I called my friend in New
       Zealand this morning.

       The line was built very late (about 1899) and dismantled during
       the 1st World War. The track was relaid after the war, by public
       demand, and the line continued to be used until about 1935.

       The station at Lasham still exists and appears to be a scrapyard
       now, you can see it from the A339.

       The line was indeed used for scenes in the film "Oh Mr. Porter!".
       The engine used in the film, "Gladstone", was borrowed from the
       Kent and East Sussex Railway. I've seen this film dozens of times,
       and to find out I've been driving parallel to the old tracks every
       morning for the last 3� years has come as a bit of a surprise!

       Ian.
512.9And......ODDONE::PAYNE_RFri Nov 29 1991 13:347
    AND....
    
    	THE OLD STATION AT CLIDDESDEN IS STILL THERE !!!, BUT ONLY THE
    PLATFORM, THIS STATION IS /WAS THE ONE USED IN TH "PORTER" FILM.
    
    
    	RICHARD (who is far to young to remember, but my dad can!!)
512.10KERNEL::SHELLEYRThere are always optionsFri Nov 29 1991 14:058
    �THE OLD STATION AT CLIDDESDEN IS STILL THERE !!!
    
    Theres no need to shout.
    
    Is this station visible from the road or accessable, as I wouldn't mind
    checking it out sometime.
    
    Roy
512.11KERNEL::MENDELSOHNGreg Mendelsohn, Programming SupportFri Nov 29 1991 18:0215
	You can see what remains of Cliddesden station from the road, but
	I don't you can get into it. I think it is now a private house.

	As far as directions are concerned, drive through Cliddesden from the
	Alton Road, past the Jolly Farmer. Turn left at the pond, and follow
	the road to a fork. Turn left again.
	
	That should get you near there. Sorry to be vague, but at this exact
	moment I can't think how to _drive_ there. I have only passed it
	whilst walking across fields...

	I'll drive past it tomorrow (its only around the corner)

	Greg.
512.12Oh, Mr. Porter!COMICS::WEGGSome hard boiled eggs & some nuts.Wed Apr 29 1992 14:177
       	There's a chance to glimpse the Alton to Basingstoke line
       	and Cliddesden Station as it was in 1937.

        BBC2 are showing "Oh, Mr. Porter!" on bank holiday Monday
        4th May, at 8.20am.

        Ian.