Conference govt02::basingstoke

    This could be a contender for YUPPY::BORING .....
    
    (Sorry, David!)
    

    Try Field Sevice.. "tee hee"

    
    	I tried Philips last night and indeed they have an impressive 
    	selection of hammers, but only a small second hand section and
    	unfortunately they don't do part exchange.
    
    	David L.
    
    

	There used to be a mail order company that specialised in
	second hand tools, and I'm sure they would except trade-ins.
	Look in the Sunday Times, I'm sure they used to advertise there.

	As there doesn't appear to be much chance of snow again this
	Winter, I don't think I will have any further use for my
	sledge hammer if it's any use to you.

	Ian (who doesn't understand whats going on in this topic but doesn't
	     see why he shouldn't join in).

    Were you aware that there is a notes conference on LOOKIN::
    dealing with hammers and associated implements?  Press KP7 etc..
    
    nick

    Dave, I've got two hammers. One of them I bought new and the other
    secondhand, curiously the secondhand one works just as well as
    the new one - funny old world isn't it?

    Anyway, I will GIVE you my second secondhand hammer (if you don't
    mind receiving secondhand secondhand hammers), all you have to do
    is promise me the first blow you strike with it will be to Tony's
    thumb.

    re .5
    
    Are you sure it was old nails you exchanged the hammer for, and
    not loose screws?
    
    
    Aly 8-)

    
    	Nick,
    
    	I tried to access the HAMMER notesfile, but I just got an
    	error stating "invalid notefile format".

    	Did the notesfile not last very long or is there some other
    	problem ?
    
    	Ian M

>    I tried to access the HAMMER notesfile, but I just got an 
>    error stating "invalid notefile format".                  

    Obviously still in compressed format - that's what comes of using
    too many computer tools ....
    
    Frank

    Thats strange,
    
    I have been able to access the HAMMER notesfile from here with no 
    problems whatsoever.
    
    I found the note on obtaining and fitting 2nd relief valves to
    pnuematic hammers particularly interesting and useful. I never knew who
    difficult it was until I tried it for myself. I view the council road
    gangs in a whole new light, having done it myself.
    
    By the way, I have recently bought a second hand handle for my hammer.
    Does anyone know where I can get those funny wedgy things that you
    hammer into the end of the handle to fasten the head on. I have tried
    both Philips and Phillips in town but to no avail. (I have crossposted
    this request in the HAMMER notes file.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Greg.

Have you tried the wedgy things conference? Add entry FUNNY::WEDGY_THINGS
or press KP7 to select.

Dave :-)

    re .14
    
  >  By the way, I have recently bought a second hand handle for my hammer.
    
    Where from?  You don't say. 

    I was given a second-hand head for my hammer a few weeks ago and I'm
    very pleased with it. I'd now like to fit a second-hand handle as
    I'm sure it would make all the difference. It's a very good hammer,
    much better than the ones they make today.

    Ian.
    

    I CANT USE THE HAMMER CONFIRENCE EIGTHER. WHEN I TRY I GET:
    "INVALID NOTEFILE FORMAT" AND ANOTHER MESSAGE WHITCH GOES TOO FAST TOO
    SEE. WHAT AM I DOING WRONG, PLEASE.
    
    P.S. I AM NEW TO USING NOTES.

    Dear Odium::EY1786U14
    
    If you type "SHOW ERROR" at the Notes> prompt, you will be given more
    information as to why you are unable to access the HAMMER notesfile.
    
    Try again and report back here and maybe someone can help.
    
    In addition, you will find that your notes take on a more pleasing look
    if you type mostly in lower case (except for pronouns et cetera) and
    then the note is a lot less tiring on the eyes. Noting in UPPERCASE IS
    KNOWN AS SHOUTING in the vernacular, and as such should only be used
    when you wish to emphasise (spelling?) a point.
    
    Re: a few notes earlier about FUNNY::xxxxxxx.
    
    I have to concur with Tony (Imbierrski) that if we start lowering the
    tone of this note and the notesfile in generally by "making things up"
    then we may lose readers and impact. I, for one, am tempted not to read
    any further when someone starts taking the mickey.
    
    By the way Tony, sorry if I spelt you name incorrectly above, but I
    did not note down the correct spelling before starting to write this
    note. I couldn't remember if there was one "b" or two.
    
    Regards and happy noting.....

	You may be interested in the book "Tools for the Job" by
	L.T.C. Rolt (published by Batsford).

	There is also an organisation called the "Tools and Trades History
	Society" for those interested in old tools (not exclusively
	hammers!) The address is
		275 Snadridge Lane,
		Bromham,
		Chippenham,
		Wiltshire. SN15 2JW.
	Membership is �15.00 per annum.

	There are more details in the Industrial Archeology Notefile
	on SILK::IND_ARCH (KP7 to add). See note 7.3

	Silk is node 44.424 (45480).

    

    Hi guys,
    
    I remember the life at the CSC being tough! But I am beginning to think
    that the pressure is beginning to tell! 
    Re: .19 Lighten up - a Software Specialist can find humour in anything.
    Even wedgy things 8^).
    
    Phil

Re .-1
�                        -< Keep taking the pills, guys >-

Flame on...

Phil, I think you know better than to ridicule your ex-colleagues
at the CSC, who work long hours in often difficult circumstances.
They are worthy of your support and sympathy, so please refrain from
Ratholing this fascinating investigation into matters of the toolkit.

...Flame off.

 �^{:}
   ...
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	re < Note 111.20 by COMICS::WEGG "Some hard boiled eggs & some nuts." >
        
    	Ian,
    	Wow, someone with similar interests ! I too, have spent many
    	happy and useful minutes perusing the vast array of useful 
    	information contained in the Industrial Archeology notesfile.
    	The topic on early 17th century Dutch uranium excavation
    	is particularly interesting.
    
    	I have not yet had a chance to review the tome by L.T.C. Rolt,
    	however, rest assured, the next time I find myself at the
    	stockists of great literary masterpieces, the Basingstoke and
    	Deane Public Library, I will avail myself of it.

    	David L.

I would like to apologise for my joke in .15, I realise now that many 
people take the subject of DIY tools very seriously. 

This reply has been cross posted in LOOKIN::HAMMER.

    I too would like to unreservedly apologize for my previous reply to
    this note and just hope that others might learn from my experience that
    to take other people's tools too lightly (especially when considering
    hammers) is obviously a grave error. Perhaps we might look forward to
    continuing this enlightening discussion in LOOKIN::HAMMERS?
    
      A bientot,
    
    Phil

    
    I happen to be a collector of vintage hammers ( the present count
    being about 35 ) ranging from the lesser known 18th century T-piece
    micrometer to the better known early 20th century model-T-hammer
    ( any colour so long as black ), and have read with avid interest
    the previous notes on second hand hammers. Only the other day on
    the antiques roadshow a lady appeared with a hammer that had been
    in the family for years and it actually turned out to be an early
    Swedish full grip swing hammer and was very valuable!!
    
    So a message to all you people who have bought second hand hammers
    or have had them given to you, I would thoroughly recommend having
    them valued.
    
    Does any know where the nearest hammer museum is as one can spend
    many enjoyable hours watching some banging going on in the
    demonstration rooms.
    
    Cheers 
    
    larry

    < Note 111.26 by LARVAE::WILTSHIRE >
                               -< banging away >-
    
>        Does any know where the nearest hammer museum is as one can spend
>    many enjoyable hours watching some banging going on in the
>    demonstration rooms.

	I must admit, I enjoy a good hammer as much as the next man, but
	overall I think I prefer screwing. It surely is a more skilful
    	art as one has to be gentle but firm, strong yet not boisterous
    	and more accurate than if one is having a bang (with a hammer).
    
    	David L.

    
    Those of you with a need for second-hand hammers, and other second-hand
    tools, may like to know of a marvelous emporium to be found in Oxford.
    At the Plain end of Cowley Rd. is the wonderful "Used Tool Centre".
    This spendid establishment has second-hand tools of all types and an
    especially fine selction of used hammers.
    
    In addition, they also buy used tools, so I suppose you could consider
    this to be part-exchange or trade-in.