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Title:VAX MAILGATE for MEMO
Moderator:STKHLM::OLSSON
Created:Sat Feb 25 1989
Last Modified:Tue May 14 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:216
Total number of notes:933

210.0. "no-delivery notification lost in space?" by MLNORO::MALACRIDA () Thu Apr 06 1995 19:11

    
    
    Can someone please explain if the following SNA gateway trace of
    a message sent from MRGATE to a non-existent MEMO user, does or
    doesn't contains a non-delivery notification?
    
    The reason I'm asking is that nothing seems to come back from
    MEMO side in terms of no-delivery notification ( nothing arrives to 
    the sender, nothing is posted in Message Router etc..)
    
    We are running MRouter and MRGATE 3.2, Mrmemo gateway 2.1A and
    the version of IBM MEMO gateway is 1.2.0.
    
    At the end of the trace I've attached an output showing the 
    setup of the server.
    
    Thanks for any help.
    
    Giovanni
    
    
    
SNATRACE V2.1	Session Trace	 3-APR-1995 16:52:48.52
Gateway node GSNA2	Physical Unit SNA-3	Session 75
(Protocol version = 2.0.0, Buffering level = 10, Data size = 4096)

T 16:53:56.18 TH=2C00014B0001 RH=0380C0 RU=433. bytes     (005,00000001)
	      FID2,OS,DAF=01,OAF=4B,SNF=0001
	      RQ,FMD,BCI,ECI,DR1I,BBI,EBI
	      0005 C001 0000 7ACD 0101 001D C301 4106 : ..{...:\....C.\\
	      0100 0000 0F12 0237 3436 3134 3536 3133 : ........\\\\\\\\
	      3034 3035 394D 4D00 26C3 0201 0009 C201 : \\\\\((..C...\B.
	      4104 0100 0100 18C2 0241 0F01 C3D6 D4C9 : \\.....B.\..COMI
	      E34B E2C2 C1C7 D3C9 D604 0380 0000 2AC3 : T.SBAGLIO\.\..\C
	      0341 1A01 E5C1 E74B E2E8 E2E3 C5D4 4B4B : .\\.VAX.SYSTEM..
	      D4D9 C7C1 E3C5 4B4B E3C5 E2E3 0807 C000 : MRGATE..TEST\.{.
	      F400 0000 0308 C100 08C5 0541 0301 0101 : 4....\A.\E.\....
	      2DC9 0301 0033 CA03 4110 0197 9996 A581 : .I...\\.\..prova
	      4084 8593 89A5 8599 A813 0270 726F 7661 :  delivery..\\?\/
	      2064 656C 6976 6572 7920 6B6F 0405 0050 : \\\%\\\\`\,?\..&
	      0406 0003 0307 0000 05CB 0101 4040 4040 : \\.......\..    
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 :                 
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 :                 
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 :                 
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 :                 
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 98A4 85A2 :             ques
	      A396 4094 A287 4095 9695 4081 9999 89A5 : to msg non arriv
	      8140 8140 8485 A2A3 8995 81A9 8996 9585 : a a destinazione
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 :                 
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 :                 
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 :                 
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 :                 
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 :                 
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 :                 
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 :                 
	      4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 4040 0005 CF01 :             ..\.
	      00                                      : .
R 16:53:56.95 TH=2C004B010001 RH=838000 RU=0. bytes       (005,00000001)
	      FID2,OS,DAF=4B,OAF=01,SNF=0001
	      +RSP,FMD,BCI,ECI,DR1I
R 16:53:57.47 TH=2C004B010001 RH=4B8100 RU=1. byte        (005,00000001)
	      FID2,OS,DAF=4B,OAF=01,SNF=0001
	      RQ,DFC,FI,BCI,ECI,DR1I,PI
	      C8                                      : H
T 16:53:57.48 TH=2C00014B0000 RH=830100 RU=0. bytes       (005,00000001)
	      FID2,OS,DAF=01,OAF=4B,SNF=0000
	      +RSP,FMD,BCI,ECI,PI
T 16:53:57.54 TH=2C00014B0001 RH=CB8000 RU=1. byte        (005,00000001)
	      FID2,OS,DAF=01,OAF=4B,SNF=0001
	      +RSP,DFC,FI,BCI,ECI,DR1I
	      C8                                      : H
R 16:53:57.96 TH=2C004B010002 RH=0380C0 RU=48. bytes      (005,00000001)
	      FID2,OS,DAF=4B,OAF=01,SNF=0002
	      RQ,FMD,BCI,ECI,DR1I,BBI,EBI
	      0005 C001 0000 26C1 0401 0021 C301 4106 : ..{....A\..\C.\\
	      0100 0000 0012 0237 3436 3134 3536 3133 : ........\\\\\\\\
	      3034 3035 394D 4D04 0300 0000 05CF 0100 : \\\\\((\.....\..
T 16:53:57.98 TH=2C00014B0002 RH=838000 RU=0. bytes       (005,00000001)
	      FID2,OS,DAF=01,OAF=4B,SNF=0002
	      +RSP,FMD,BCI,ECI,DR1I

Total of 8 trace records processed.
    
    
     ------- MRMEMO server characteristic ----------
    
    
  VAX MAILGATE for MEMO Manager version V2.1

	MRMEMO1 summary as of 1995-04-04 14:55:32

Server Identification:
  Node name:               TEST
  Mailbox name:            MEMO
  Message Router Password: ****
SNA Session Identification:
  Gateway node:            GSNA2
  Access name:             MEMOTEL3
  Circuit name:            
  Session address:         0
  Application name:        
  Logon mode entry:        
Related files:
  Translation table:       SYS$LIBRARY:MRMEMOTRA.TBL
  Log file:                MRMEMO$DIR:MRMEMO1.LOG
  Accounting file:         MRMEMO$DIR:MRMEMOACC1.DAT
Options:
  Accounting:              Enabled
  Timestamp:               Disabled
  Header in text:          Disabled
  Request Notifications:   Enabled
  Send Notifications:      Enabled
  Cluster alias address:   Enabled
  Address translation:     Disabled
  MEMO address:            SN_ATTRIBUTES
  DDS validation:
    MR to MEMO sender:     Disabled
    MEMO to MR sender:     Disabled
    MEMO to MR recipient:  Enabled
    MR to MEMO recipient:  Disabled
  Distribution list:       None
  Prefix:                  VAX.
  Replace Strings:         ..=@
  Console logging:         None
  Clock tick interval:        0 00:00:30.00
  MEMO line length:        80
  Wrap/truncation string:  
  Wrapping of long lines:  Enabled
    Word wrap margin:      Disabled
    Hyphenation string:    
  Hours to GMT:            0
    
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210.1Lost in MEMO space!STKHLM::OLSSONAnders Olsson, DC SwedenFri Apr 07 1995 20:3925
.0> Can someone please explain if the following SNA gateway trace of
.0> a message sent from MRGATE to a non-existent MEMO user, does or
.0> doesn't contains a non-delivery notification?
.0>
.0> The reason I'm asking is that nothing seems to come back from
.0> MEMO side in terms of no-delivery notification ( nothing arrives to 
.0> the sender, nothing is posted in Message Router etc..)

    The message sent to MEMO looks quite normal. The response that comes
    back is just a "Commit" message which tells us that MEMO has taken over
    responsibility for the message delivery. There should be a non-delivery
    coming back eventually. If there isn't, the problem must be somewhere
    in the MEMO system.

    In what way is COMIT.SBAGLIO non-existent? Does COMIT exist but not
    SBAGLIO or vice versa (or both)?
    Is there a single MEMO machine or is there a MEMO network involved and
    what is the route to COMIT?

    Is a non-delivery returned in the most simple case?: Send a message to
    the MEMO system which is directly connected to MRMEMO and specify a
    correct DGN (the string before the dot) but a non-existent DEN. (Maybe
    that's what you did?)
    
    Anders
210.2some more infosMLNORO::MALACRIDAMon Apr 10 1995 11:0537
    Anders,
    
          
>    In what way is COMIT.SBAGLIO non-existent? Does COMIT exist but not
>    SBAGLIO or vice versa (or both)?
    
     COMIT does exist, SBAGLIO does NOT.
    
    
>    Is there a single MEMO machine or is there a MEMO network involved and
>    what is the route to COMIT?
     
    Our gateway is directly connected to the MEMO machine: they eventually
    route to other MEMO system. Anyway, the DGN COMIT is just one hop
    from us.
    
>    Is a non-delivery returned in the most simple case?: Send a message to
>    the MEMO system which is directly connected to MRMEMO and specify a
>    correct DGN (the string before the dot) but a non-existent DEN. (Maybe
>    that's what you did?)
 
     It's exactly what we did.   
    
     People from Programatic, after looking for sometimes at the problem,
    have decided to send back the ball at DEC middle field: that's why
    I asked if the trace showed a non-delivery or not.
    From .0 I understand that the non-delivery notification is something
    which cames back at a second time, as a different message.
    
    Could the version of MEMO gateway at IBM side be the problem?
    
    Have you ever heard of problem like this due to some mismatch in
    the version of MEMO/IBM-MEMOgateway/DEC-MR-MEMO-gateway?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Giovanni
210.3MLNORO::MALACRIDAFri Apr 14 1995 10:264
    Programatic has installed a "new" version (1.2.1) of their Memo gateway
    and now non-delivery are happily coming back.
    
    Tnanks.
210.4GoodSTKHLM::OLSSONAnders Olsson, DC SwedenMon Apr 24 1995 00:0811
    Glad to hear that it was resolved (and that it wasn't "our" problem!).

    Anders

PS
  .2> From .0 I understand that the non-delivery notification is something
  .2> which cames back at a second time, as a different message.

      Nowadays it is, yes. In older versions of MEMO (or MEMO/Gateway?) there
      is a combined message (commit with status) containing both the
      acknowledge *and* the (non-)delivery.