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Conference virke::mrmemo

Title:VAX MAILGATE for MEMO
Moderator:STKHLM::OLSSON
Created:Sat Feb 25 1989
Last Modified:Tue May 14 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:216
Total number of notes:933

66.0. "MR/MEMO needs DECNET account?" by PEARS::SONNTAG (Michael Sonntag, TSSC-OIS, @MUH) Thu Jan 17 1991 17:33

Hi Folks,

i get today an outage call from a customer with following situation:

by starting the memo-server (start 1) comes following message:
%....	status .....
%....	identification ....
%MRMEMO-W-NOSERVER, TARGET SERVER IS NOT ACCESSABLE
%SYSTEM-F-LINKEXIT, NETWORK PARTNER EXITED

the object at ncp (mrmemo1) has the id from the generated process, but the 
connections to MRLISTEN are not available.
(MRMEMO$DIR:NETSERVER.LOG AND MRMEMO1.LOG are ok, no error messages)


after some time, i found out that the customer has defined a default
decnet entry at the characteristics from the executer node
....
Nonprivileged  user id 	= DECNET
Nonprivileged password  = DECNET
....
and there was an entry in the UAF with 
DEFAULT: 	SYS$SPECIFIC:[DECNET]
LGICMD:		LOGIN.COM
FLAGS:		... Restricted ....

b u t, no directory and of course no login available for this account.
i generate a directory, also a login.com, starts the server and
		i t   w o r k s 

why needs MRMEMO the default decnet account for starting the server?
is it possible to change this (workaround: include username and password
					   by the object definition from
					   MRMEMO1 at the ncp?)
    or what else can we do?
    
    
btw, the customer uses 
MAILbus V3.1B
MR/MEMO V2.1
VMS     V5.3-1

greetings from munich
	Michael
    
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66.1START needs new designSTKHLM::OLSSONAnders Olsson, SIP SwedenFri Jan 18 1991 17:3531
    Hello Michael,

.0> why needs MRMEMO the default decnet account for starting the server?
.0> is it possible to change this (workaround: include username and password
.0>					   by the object definition from
.0>					   MRMEMO1 at the ncp?)
.0>    or what else can we do?
    
    When the START command is given, MRMMAN sends a connect request with
    username and password to the MRMEMO account. The login command file in
    the MRMEMO account starts the (detached) MRMEMO server process, returns
    the process start status to MRMMAN and exits.

    The server process now initializes and declares itself as a known network
    object (number 0, name MRMEMO1). Meanwhile, MRMMAN tries to connect to
    the server object WHITHOUT any username/password info in the connect
    request. If the server has not yet declared itself as a network object,
    the connect request will result in a login attempt.

    It should work to include username and password in a MRMEMO1 object
    definition as a workaround. But don't use the MRMEMO account, since the
    login command file there expects to be accessed only by the MRMMAN
    START command to start a new server.

    We are aware of that the implementation of the START command have some
    design flaws. A change in this area is quite high up on the wishlist
    (even higher now because of this problem report).

    Please let us know if the workaround works and is acceptable.

    Anders
66.2it's ok nowPEARS::SONNTAGMichael Sonntag, TSSC-OIS, @MUHThu Feb 07 1991 11:499
    Hello Anders,
    
    sorry about my late reply, but i get in illness over 14 days.
    
    the customer accept the workaround (he generate a new account with the
    same groupuic as mrmemo) and it works fine.
    
    thanks 
    	Michael