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Title:T&N Pubs Systems and Tools Notes Conference
Moderator:ISOISA::HAKKARAINEN
Created:Thu Jun 29 1989
Last Modified:Fri Dec 30 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:91
Total number of notes:315

61.0. "CommsCab Task Force Minutes" by TNPUBS::SAHAGIAN () Thu Jun 06 1991 12:11

              Minutes of Communications Cabinet Task Force
                               May 2, 1991



    Attendees:      Cynthia Day
                    Bruce Gillham
                    Rikk Hallowell
                    Mark Kimball
                    Joe Oliver
                    Janice Sahagian
                    Jack Wickwire



    Discussion of Proposal for Active Management of the Communications
    Cabinet
    ------------------------------------------------------------------

        Janice discussed the proposal she had submitted to Kathleen's
    extended staff.  Her proposal with the staff comments are added as
    a reply to this note.  The following suggestions were made by the
    task force members:

        o Make a .COM file for deleting purposes.
        o Ask Paul to delete all Interleaf backup files that are over
          eight days old.
        o Also check for checkpoint and crash files and delete them.
        o Use the PURGE command to delete any duplicate files (good
          for deleting attribute files -- files that start with $).

        Janice said not to do any real cleanup until Karl had backed
    up the entire cabinet.  Just familiarize yourself with the
    pathname of your group drawer and possibly create logicals for
    that pathname.

        Janice will meet with Paul Keating and Karl Hakkarainen to set
    up exact procedures for cleaning up the cabinet.  These procedures
    will be given to the task force at the next meeting.  No date was
    set for the next meeting.
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61.1Comms Cab Task Force ProposalTNPUBS::SAHAGIANThu Jun 06 1991 15:1888
SUBJECT:  Active Management of the Communications Cabinet

The Workstation Support Group, with help from Jack Wickwire, has brought to 
our attention the need to actively manage the Communications Cabinet.  The 
ITeam discussed this at our last meeting and I was elected to come up with 
a proposal that the T&N Publications Group could live with.  The 
Workstation Support Group has reviewed and approved this proposal.  Their 
comments were added.

The Workstation Support Group at first thought that one person should be
selected to manage the entire Communications Cabinet.  I believe that is
too big a job for one person to do alone.  I suggest that each supervisor
call for a volunteer from each group to manage that group's drawer in the
Communications Cabinet.  Ideally there should be only one person per
drawer.  If a group owns more than one drawer, that group would need a
volunteer for each drawer they own. 

What needs to be done?  

o   The drawer manager would ensure that all files in the drawer are
    currently in use.  If no one is using a file, the drawer manager would
    ask the owner of that file to delete it. 


*** All the writers will do the work.  The drawer managers will coordinate 
the effort.


o   The drawer manager could enforce a naming convention for the files in
    the drawer so that it would be easy to recognize the owner.  Otherwise,
    the drawer manager can perform a DIRECTORY/OWNER DCL command to see who
    owns the file.  The drawer manager can also get the UIC number from
    the property sheet of the file and have Karl find out who owns that file. 


*** Put dates when created, dates when they should be reviewed or deleted, 
initials of owner, etc.  Set up good housekeeping procedures.  Create 
special template drawers for documents that are designed to be kept for a 
long time.


o   The drawer manager must manage the number of attribute files that build 
    up in the drawer (the files that begin with "$").  Every time a user
    moves a file, Interleaf creates an attribute file owned by that user. 
    If the owner of the file tries to delete the file, Interleaf pops it
    back up on the desktop because an attribute file is owned by someone
    else. Ideally, the only people that would move files in the drawer
    would be the file owner and the drawer manager. 


*** Can the workstation group create a utility that has the proper 
privileges to automatically delete all the attribute files from the 
complete communications cabinet?


Karl Hakkarainen should perform a directory listing of the
IWS4069$DISK:[IWS3LIB.COMMUNICATION...] area, before it's cleaned up, in case
something is accidentally deleted. Otherwise  it will be very difficult, if
not impossible, to accurately restore files. 

The Drawer Managers will not require special access privileges.  They
should go to the owners of the files they want deleted from the drawer and
have the owners delete them. That way fewer accidents will occur.  The
drawer manager can perform a DIRECTORY/OWNER DCL command to see who owns
the files they want to delete. 

Once all the drawer managers are designated, I will call a meeting to
discuss what they need to do. 


*** The task force should discuss the many methods of accomplishing and 
maintaining the comms cabinet.  Once there is a maintenance process in 
place, this process should be documented.  That way, this drawer management 
position can be rotated through the groups.


Please let me know what your thoughts are on this proposal.  If you need to 
discuss this as a group, please let me know when Kathleen's next extended 
staff meeting is; and I will present this proposal at that meeting.

Thank you,
Janice





The supervisors agreed to send names of volunteers to me by April 8, 1991.
61.2Comms Cab Task Force Minutes 6/6/1991TNPUBS::SAHAGIANThu Jun 20 1991 10:4029
              Minutes of Communications Cabinet Task Force
                              June 6, 1991



    Attendees:      Bruce Gillham
                    Bob Govoni
    		    Karl Hakkarainen
                    Rikk Hallowell
                    Steve Jong
    		    Paul Keating
                    Joe Oliver
                    Janice Sahagian



    Discussion of Drawer Management Tasks
    -------------------------------------

        Janice presented what she, Karl, and Paul thought were the tasks
    of the drawer managers.  The handout she passed around is added as a 
    reply to these minutes.  It has been edited reflecting decisions made
    by the task force. 

        It was recommended that Janice send a message to the whole group
    stating when the cleanup will start and giving the names of all the
    Task Force members.  This is an ACTION ITEM for Janice.  She will send 
    the message out when Paul finishes the preliminary setup and Karl makes
    the backup.
61.3Comms Cab Task Force Task ListTNPUBS::SAHAGIANThu Jun 20 1991 10:4153
SUBJECT:  Active Management of the Communications Cabinet

Goal:  Keep the Interleaf Communications Cabinet down to a manageable size 
and to improve performance.

Comms Cab Management Tasks:

o   Identify files for deletion.  The drawer manager would ensure that all 
    files in the drawer are currently in use.  If no one is using a file, 
    the drawer manager would delete it. The drawer manager would delete 
    these files to a junk drawer located on the manager's desktop and keep it 
    for a certain amount of time, such as one week.

o   Identify files for archive.  Paul has installed an archive disk (not 
    active yet) where files can be archived rather than deleted.  Files can 
    also be archived to tape.

o   The drawer manager could enforce a naming convention for the files in
    the drawer, such as dates when files should be reviewed or deleted. 
    Create special template drawers for documents that are designed to be
    kept for a long time. 

o   The drawer manager must manage the number of attribute files that build 
    up in the drawer (the files that begin with "$").  Every time a user
    moves a file, Interleaf creates an attribute file owned by that user. 
    Through the use of ACLs, when the owner of the file tries to delete the
    file, Interleaf will also delete all the attribute files for that file 
    (I hope -- this has not been tested yet). However, the drawer managers, 
    through the use of ACLs, can delete all the attribute files.

o   The drawer manager can also check for $B Crash files and $C Checkpoint 
    files that can build up in the drawer.

The top level of the Comms Cab will be set to group=read.  Only privileged 
people can add and delete anything on the top level.

Paul will delete all backup files one week behind the weekly backup.

Paul will set up ACLs on most files in the Comms Cab.  These ACLs will set 
protection for the whole group to group=RWED.  Also, Paul can have these 
ACLs propagate to any new files that are created.  (We need to test if a 
user can close down group=WED on a file within the Comms Cab if they choose 
to do that.)

Karl Hakkarainen should perform a directory listing of the
IWS4069$DISK:[IWS3LIB.COMMUNICATION...] area, before it's cleaned up, in case
something is accidentally deleted. Otherwise  it will be very difficult, if
not impossible, to accurately restore files. 

The task force should discuss the many methods of accomplishing and 
maintaining the Comms Cabinet.  Once there is a maintenance process in 
place, this process must be documented.  That way, this drawer management 
position can be rotated through the groups.
61.4CommsCab Meeting Minutes for october 17, 1991TNPUBS::SAHAGIANMon Oct 21 1991 21:5639

               Minutes of Communications Cabinet Task Force
                             October 18, 1991



    Attendees:      Cynthia Day
                    Bruce Gillham
                    Rick Owens
                    Lorrain Sharon
                    Janice Sahagian
                    Jack Wickwire



    Discussion of Drawer Management Tasks
    -------------------------------------

    The group discussed the urgency of getting the Communications
    cabinet cleaned up.  Discussion centered around the tasks to be
    done; for example, deleting $A backup files, $B crash files, land $C
    checkpoint files.  Jack Wickwire mentioned that the most space can
    be eliminated by deleting the $A backup files.  All these files are
    the ones that are deleted when IWSCLEANUP is run on desktops. 
    However, Paul Keating said that IWSCLEANUP could not be run on the
    Communications cabinet.

    The group decided that it would be good if Janice sent a memo to the
    group asking them for their assistance.  Janice will do that on
    Friday, October 18.

    Janice went over the list of files in the top level of the
    Communications cabinet.  She will clean that up on Friday.

    The group decided that a realistic goal to have the cleanup
    completed for this quarter would be by October 31st.  That gives us
    two weeks.  That should be plenty of time.  The sooner we get it
    done, the sooner our Interleaf performance will improve.