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Title: | T&N Pubs Systems and Tools Notes Conference |
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Moderator: | ISOISA::HAKKARAINEN |
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Created: | Thu Jun 29 1989 |
Last Modified: | Fri Dec 30 1994 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 91 |
Total number of notes: | 315 |
12.0. "Restoring Interleaf files is tricky!" by INTER::JONG (Steve Jong/NaC Pubs) Thu Oct 19 1989 16:13
If you look at the icons on your desktop, all appears simple enough.
You have a lot of flexibility in naming documents, folders, drawers,
and cabinets, more than what VMS allows, which I, for one, appreciate
and exploit. For example, on my desktop I have a cabinet called
"Steve's stuff" and a chapter in my book called "What's DECmcc?" (It's
the Macintosh upbringing, I guess, to put everything away in a folder.)
But all this is only a facade layered onto VMS, which doesn't use
lowercase letters, or even accept spaces and apostrophes, in filenames.
Interleaf uses its own quirky file structure, probably akin to Unix
but certainly unlike VMS. Its backup method is different from the VMS
version concept. It translates different icon types into different
filenames. (Change a drawer into a cabinet and you've changed the name
of a directory from SOMETHING_DRW.DIR into SOMETHING_CAB.DIR, for
example.) We are advised to use books and sub-books, which Interleaf
translates into directories and sub-directories (deeper and deeper!).
And Interleaf maps the user-friendly names you've used into squat VMS
filenames, such as, in my case, WHAT_S_DECMCC_.DOC.
If you never have to poke around, all is handled invisibly by
Interleaf, and you needn't worry about the reality under the facade.
Interleaf seems happy enough dealing with apostrophes and spaces; so am
I. Clearly, these file and directory names were not meant to be read
by humans. But sometimes humans have to read them anyway. Why, just
this week I deleted a lot of stuff out of my chapter, stuff I've
decided is better off saved somewhere else. The chapter's still there,
but by now I've saved it so often I've pushed the backup version that
had the material I deleted right off the table. So I contacted CCD and
asked for an older version of my file. I gave the exact pathname,
which was damn tough to get, let me tell you. But even with the
correct pathname, the operator took one look at the listing and went
off the deep end! She was completely unable to deal with the
pathname, thinking,completely erroneously, that I was some sort of
madman; and she also couldn't distinguish the file from its backups
and links.
I could see her problem when she showed me the backup listing. The
file, which on my Interleaf desktop is found by this admittedly deep
but not, I claim, unreasonable structure:
Desktop
Steve's stuff (cabinet)
MCC (drawer)
Drafts (folder)
Introduction 1st (book)
Chapters (sub-book)
What's DECmcc? (document)
translated into Interleaf-on-VMS, and taking into account backups and
checkpoint files, becomes a nightmare:
Directory USER$653:[JONG.DESKTOP.STEVE_S_STUFF_CAB.MCC_DRW.DRAFTS_FDR.INTRODUCTI
ON_1ST_BOO.CHAPTERS_BOO]
WHAT_S_DECMCC_$A.DOC;1 908 <--- Backup file
WHAT_S_DECMCC_$H.DOC;1 2 <--- She thought this was it
WHAT_S_DECMCC_$I.DOC;1 7 <--- God knows what this is
WHAT_S_DECMCC_.DOC;1 941 <--- The file I really wanted
Total of 4 files, 1858 blocks.
I am not complaining about her confusion; I sympathize completely. I am
not talking about our esteemed colleagues Peter, Jim, and Bette Jean. I
do not write this to suggest that the Ops people aren't smart enough to
cope with Interleaf. I write this to warn you that if you need to
restore an Interleaf file, you'd better be prepared for a lot of grief.
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12.1 | Interleaf filenames | INTER::COLELLO | Bette Jean 226-7223 | Fri Oct 27 1989 10:25 | 20 |
| Interleaf (as you mentioned) has a different way of storing files. I guess it
all depends on what you are use to, but each file has a distinct purpose.
For example:
filename.doc the document
filename$a.doc;1 the backup version
filename$b.doc;1 the checkpoint version
filename$c.doc;1 the crash version
filename$h.doc;1 an autonumbering and autoreferencing summary
file
filename$i.doc;1 an indexing and TOC summary file
filename$1.doc;1 a document whose name is similar or identical
to another
filename$1$a.doc;1 a backup document
$filename.doc;1 an attribute file
There is a definite reason to be confused as we don't see this in VMS.
Bette Jean
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