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Conference tnpubs::nacleaf

Title:T&N Pubs Systems and Tools Notes Conference
Moderator:ISOISA::HAKKARAINEN
Created:Thu Jun 29 1989
Last Modified:Fri Dec 30 1994
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:91
Total number of notes:315

7.0. "DIGITAL logo" by LEAF::GILLHAM () Wed Sep 13 1989 18:16

Just a quick FYI note -- you may want to consider this when creating overheads
and putting the DIGITAL logo in the header or footer frame (my apologies if
everyone already knows this).

I did some block size comparisons of the same file with and without the
DIGITAL logo in the header frame. The file consisted of 55 overheads.

        .PL version without DIGITAL logo = 172 blocks
	.PL version with logo            = 634 blocks


I then converted the file to .PS using the "PSLN03R" procedure described in
Note 5.


	.PS version without logo         = 512 blocks
	.PS version with logo            = 15659 blocks  (not a typo)


-Bruce





             
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7.1Tough choiceINTER::JONGSteve Jong/NaC PubsThu Sep 14 1989 12:0011
    If you are using the scanned Digital logo (which you should), you are
    using a bit-mapped image.  PostScript is notoriously inefficient at
    processing bitmaps.  If you were to print the PostScript file you'd see
    endless rows of hex values expressed as bits representing the graphic,
    e.g.:
    
    01011100 01011100 10001011 00111110 10001010 10001010 (etc.)
    
    In this particular case, the alternative is to dummy up a logo using
    the Interleaf fonts.  It's not easy (I've tried), good looking, or
    legally valid.
7.2There may be a wayLEAF::S_DOWMANThu Sep 14 1989 13:3023
Re .1:    
>    In this particular case, the alternative is to dummy up a logo using
>    the Interleaf fonts.  It's not easy (I've tried), good looking, or
>    legally valid.

     Steve,
        What method did you use to create the logo?  Although I haven't
        seen the results I believe I would try the following method:
 
      1. In a graphic frame press CTRL-o (to create a text string) and
         type a letter (should be Helvetica).

      2. Select the letter and execute the Misc -> Convert -> To Outline ->
         <Perserve Font> command.  Perform these two steps for each letter
         and align using a grid.
       
      3. The letters can now be sized and filled (white against black boxes
         for the DEC logo). 
  
      I think the Convert command is an option for Interleaf and perhaps only
      the illustrators may have it.  It is a nice feature.

                                                           ...Another Steve
7.3Illustrator version = writer versionLEAF::COLELLOBette Jean 226-7223Fri Sep 15 1989 09:129
>      I think the Convert command is an option for Interleaf and perhaps only
>      the illustrators may have it.  It is a nice feature.


       All the liscenses are the same and ALL Interleaf users have this 
       capability.  Thanks for your info Steve!    

       Bette Jean

7.4A Gonzo replyINTER::JONGA desk&#039;s top publishingFri Sep 15 1989 14:2912
    Sure, Steve, if you want to do it the EASY way!
    
    I have made the Digital logo by converting letters to white.
    The resulting logo looks nothing like the official one.
    
    I have also tried assembling the letters by hand from tiny rectangles,
    ovals, and splines, in an attempt to render the logo more accurately.
    After a lot of effort, I got something that wasn't really great either.
    
    Unfortunately, if we use the logo we should have it exactly right.
    I recommend using the bit-mapped image and sizing it as needed,
    and hang the file size.
7.5Easy does it!LEAF::S_DOWMANFri Sep 15 1989 17:3612
      The company has chosen two typefaces: Garamond as primary
      and Helvetica as secondary.

      The Company Identity Manual states in regard to the DEC logo:
       "Helvetica is recommended as a secondary typeface to be used
        in certain cases. Helvetica is also used for highly technical
        literature primarily containing charts, graphs, and tabular
        information."

      I would think that Helvetica could be used for overheads if not
      the manuals. Seems rather close to me.
                                              ...Steve
7.6It's two logos in oneWORDY::JONGA desk&#039;s top publishingMon Jun 11 1990 14:1015
    A different problem has surfaced with the Digital logo.  Quite by
    accident, I have discovered that all the copies of the logo used in
    our structured documentation template (front cover, title page,
    copyright page, etc.) are overly large.  If you examine them, you will
    find that there are TWO logos in the frame.  One is masked out and
    invisible unless you move or resize the frame, but it's in there.
    
    I came across this while fine-tuning a logo.  (Yes, I actually went in
    at 300 dpi and tweaked the bits.)  I believe I am responsible for
    propagating this overly large logo, which makes at least for larger
    Interleaf files than necessary.  Sorry about that.
    
    I hope someone will go through and crop the logos down to size.  While
    they're at it, I now have a sharper (and closely cropped) logo to use,
    which produces visibly better results.  Give me a holler!