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Conference tnpubs::nscc

Title:NSCC
Moderator:TNPUBS::ICENOGLE
Created:Sat Jan 13 1996
Last Modified:Tue Jun 11 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:41
Total number of notes:140

37.0. "MS Office 95 Info" by TNPUBS::ICENOGLE (Kathy) Thu Jan 25 1996 22:16

This note is reserved for info
related to MS Office Schedule+

MS Schedule+ is a time management tool that
can be used individually, or as a group.
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37.1Office 95 Schedule+ Requirement for running on NTTNPUBS::ICENOGLEKathyThu Jan 25 1996 22:2136
(Forwarded to me from Liz Gabel and Bob Govoni... )

	To use Schedule+ as "groupware" on NT, you need to have
	MS Exchange installed.. it works fine on Win95.

	Kathy

From:	TNPUBS::REALOS::young "Michael Young" 19-JAN-1996 14:31:17.99
To:	realos::pem-all, zendia::zendia::poirier (19-Jan-1996 1023 -0500)
CC:	realos::young, zeke::paskaley, zendia::mcpartlan, zendia::boireau,
	zendia::tanner
Subj:	Re: Microsoft Office 95 


Dave,  Please forward this to the scheduler team... I don't have their 
distribution list.

The Schedule+ that comes with Office 95 does not work correctly on NT -- it 
requires Microsoft Exchange to be installed in order to work with other people 
in the workgroup.  It works fine on Windows 95 because Exchange is included with 
Windows 95.

The problem is that Schedule+ 95 is not compatible with the old Schedule+, so 
I'm recommending that everyone that's using WNT by default should stick with the 
old version of Schedule+ until we figure out what's going on.  When you install 
Office 95, DON'T install Schedule+.  If you do, don't run it, or it will attempt 
to convert your old schedule to the new format.

You should still be able to use the old schedule+ as long as your schedule file 
didn't get converted.

If it got converted accidentally, please see me.  I can help get it converted 
back. (I think).

mike.

37.2Installing Office 95 (and keeping Office 4.2)TNPUBS::ICENOGLEKathyMon Feb 19 1996 12:02134
If you are thinking about installing Office95 (or having
it installed) on your PC 

	    ***** READ THIS FIRST! *****

Office95 is the swr package that contains Word 7, PowerPoint,
and Excel - all 32-bit applications for Windows 95. You
would need Word 7 to run either D2H V2.0, or RoboHelp95.

Bottom line.. If you're up against any critical project
deadlines right now, hold off on installing Office95 till
you're at a point when you can deal with upgrading.
Some of us are playing around with the new software, partly
because we have to, and partly to learn how to deal with
any problems that crop up so others can avoid them.

I've been doing some experimentation with installing
Office95 (to get Word 7.0) while still retaining 
Office 4.2 (to keep Word 6.0)... and then layering
the 16- and 32-bit versions of RoboHelp and D2H on top 
of the corresponding versions of Word... and also trying
to get all this to work on both "sides" of a system dual
booted with Windows 95 and NT3.51... (Yes, I'm crazy, and no, 
I don't really think it's *all* going to work, but I figured it's
worth a try to see what does work.) 

For my installations, I put as much as possible on
my D drive, since my C drive is more or less full
with the operating system software. My D drive is not
partitioned.. the whole disk is "seen" by both operating 
systems.

	Some people have a partitioned disk, which enables
	you to get a little more separation between the 
	two environments. With this configuration, 
	you could build the Office95/RoboHelp95/D2HV2.0
	environment on one part of the disk, and
	leave Office 4.2/RoboHelp3/D2HV1.6 on the other 
	part of the disk.. (Donna Micozzi did that and 
	it seems to work.)

Based on my experiments, here's what I believe will work
if you need to set your PC up for both 16-bit and 32-bit 
environments:

1. Install Office 4.2 in d:\MSOFFICE
2. Install RoboHelp V3.0 in d:\RoboHelp 
	...pointing to d:\MSOFFICE\WINWORD\TEMPLATE
	as the target for the .DOT template files.
3. Install D2H V1.6 in d:\Doc-to-Help
	...pointing to d:\MSOFFICE\WINWORD\TEMPLATE
	as the target for the .DOT template files.
(The above three steps are probably already done.. and
you don't need to do both Help tools if you don't need
both help tools.. )

Then, to install/setup the 32-bit software packages:

4. Install Office 95 in a directory called d:\OFFICE95
	(On NT, I had to consciously specify new locations
	for each of the 32-bit apps so it wouldn't overwrite
	the existing Office 4.2 apps.
	On Windows 95, it seemed to ignore the presence of the
	Office 4.2 software... However if it does put up a message
	asking if you want to remove the older version
	of the software, say "no".)
5. Install RoboHelp95 in a directory called d:\RH95
	...pointing to d:\Office95\Templates
	as the target for the .DOT template files.
6. Install Doc-to-Help V2.0 in a directory called d:\D2H-V2
	...pointing to d:\Office95\Templates
	as the target for the .DOT template files.

	(You can choose your own directory names.. just as long
	as they're different for what you chose for Office 4.2
	and the 16-bit help tools.  \RH95 is the default for 
	RoboHelp95 installation... so they've already made it so
	you avoid clobbering RoboHelp V3.0)

If you have a dual-booted system, you have to do the installation
on both "sides" to see the software on both sides... (The
installation not only puts files in the directory you specify,
but it puts stuff in your system registry, and in your system
directory, depending on which OS you have booted.) 

So,  repeat all the installations on the Windows 95 side of 
your system... being careful to specify the EXACT SAME directories
for each of the applications.. (otherwise, you take up more disk
space than you need to.)

There are a few differences between Win95 and NT on the installations... 
	When installing Office95 on an NT system that already has
	Office 4.2.. the setup procedure "finds" the Office 4.2
	software and you have to specifically redirect it to your
	target directory for Office95 (in my case: D:\OFFICE95)
	Also, in the case of NT, you have an opportunity to specify
	a different program group for each of the 32-bit apps... I opted
	to put each application in its own Program Group... 

After you have done all this, almost everything seems to work.. 
with the following *known* exceptions:

	The MS Office 4.2 menu ends up "seeing" the Office95 software.
	You have to set up your own icons, or shortcuts, or find 
	the .EXE in the File Manager or Explorer to invoke the 
	Office 4.2 apps.

	Excel 5.0 (from Office 4.2) gives you an error message on 
	exiting... (so, take this as an indication that there may
	problems with having Excel V5.0 and V7.0 co-resident on 
	your system)

	Word 6 and Word 7 files seem to have transparent 
	interchange, but there *are* incompatibilities between
	PowerPoint V4 and PowerPoint v7 files.. (PPT V4.0 can't read
	a PPT V7 file.. it has to be saved to V4.0 format.)	

	I'm not making any claims at this point re: which 
	of our custom .DOT templates work/don't work... (We know
	some of the templates need upgrading for the 32-bit 
	software, and people are working on them.. Again, use caution. 
	If you use SES custom templates, hold off on upgrading till the
	whole environment is tested.)

Other than that, you should get into TNPUBS::NSCC notesfile to
catch up on what people are experiencing in upgrading help files
from 16-bit to 32-bit environments... 

Hope this helps.. If I have encouraged you to use caution
in upgrading your system, I've accomplished my goal.

Regards,
Kathy