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Conference tnpubs::xwell

Title:Honeywell (Bull) Alumni
Moderator:TNPUBS::JONG
Created:Tue Mar 31 1987
Last Modified:Thu Apr 27 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:57
Total number of notes:213

15.0. "The End is Near?" by DELNI::JONG (Steve Jong/NaC Pubs) Wed Sep 16 1987 12:17

    The following news item courtesy of John (AUTHOR::) Hayes: 
    
    			Honeywell, Digital in pact

    New York - Digital Equipment Corp. gained a major customer when
    Honeywell Inc. said it would resell Digital VAX computers as part of
    its offerings for customers in process industries. Until now, Honeywell
    had based its offerings only on the DPS-6 computers made by Honeywell
    Bull Inc. The Digital computers would be used by Honeywell's customers
    to create computer simulations of processes, the companies said.
    Process industries include those in which there is a continuous flow of
    material, such as oil refining, chemicals, and pulp and paper. 

    (source: The Boston Globe, Tuesday morning, September 15, 1987, pg 51)

        ***** 
    
    My comment:  Last summer, when my boss was trying to convince me to
    stay, he said Honeywell had an agreement with Honeywell Bull to buy
    (80? 85? 90?) percent of its computers from Honeywell Bull.  It sounds
    to me as if either this represents the remaining ten to twenty percent,
    or the agreement was only for a limited time. In a competitive
    situation, it's entirely possible VAXen can beat DPS-6s. Without the
    Honeywell market, I think Honeywell Bull is finished. 
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15.1It was inevitableULTRA::KINDELBill Kindel @ LTN2Thu Sep 17 1987 10:3426
    For those who weren't aware of such, the Control Systems side has long
    favored VAXen over the DPS 6.  Except for being directed to "buy
    Honeywell", they would have built many of their products on VAXen.
    (... and probably have gotten a better price!)
    
    The fact that the VAX has such a huge library of engineering-oriented
    software has made it very popular in CS, also.  Departments were
    forever writing justifications which said that they HAD to have a VAX
    to do some specific thing because the application they HAD to use
    didn't run on Multics or DPS 6.  I'm sure that some of those claims
    were seriously exaggerated, but it's hard to refute them so there are
    already a bunch of VAXen installed.
    
    Now that Honeywell Bull is a different company, most of the constraints
    are off.  We can fully expect that new Honeywell products will be
    developed and/or built upon VAXen.  Considering Honeywell's
    conservative bent (an asset, for the most part), how can they choose to
    pay more for a system which comes with a much higher set of risks and
    smaller application library than the VAX? 
    
    The sad fact is that every other manufacturer of minicomputer-based
    products will be faced with the same decision.  If Honeywell Bull
    attempts to "buy the business" with aggressive pricing, they'll attract
    the fly-by-night operators rather than the heavy-hitters.  All in all,
    I'm afraid this is just proof that the company we all joined is truly
    OUT of the computer business.  :^( 
15.2Bye, Honey It is BULL-N now (soon to be BULL?)ASDS::KRISHNASWAMYOld NETMAN:: New ASDS::, DTN 276-8690Mon May 06 1991 09:2810
From "Notes from the UnderLan" :
    
  Groupe Bull Buys Honeywell Stake

Groupe Bull has purchased Honeywell, Inc.'s remaining 12.8%
interest in Bull HN Information Systems, giving Groupe Bull an
85% stake in Bull HN.  NEC Corp owns the remaining 15%.  The
purchase has been a long-planned move.  The EN article has much
historical information - NFD. (CW,4/22/91,p85; EN,4/22/91,p4)

15.3could really be Jull-o!!.DECWET::PENNEYDEL ENT <file> sets you free!Mon May 06 1991 12:443
    And .....
    rumor has it in financial circles that NEC wants it all from the
    French.