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Conference tnpubs::xwell

Title:Honeywell (Bull) Alumni
Moderator:TNPUBS::JONG
Created:Tue Mar 31 1987
Last Modified:Thu Apr 27 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:57
Total number of notes:213

9.0. "Honeywell Investment Plus Plan a 401(k)?" by ULTRA::KINDEL (Bill Kindel) Tue Apr 28 1987 13:57

    I just received my distributions from the Honeywell Investment Plus
    Plan (pre-tax set-asides, earmarked for retirement) and the cash
    residuals from the Employee Retirement Stock Ownership Plan.  I have
    60 days to roll these monies over into either an IRA or an approved
    company (Digital) retirement plan to avoid a 10% tax penalty. 
    
    Digital's SAVE is a 401(k) plan under I.R.S. rules.  The folks at
    Investor Services will only take a rollover from another 401(k)
    plan.  My question is whether the Honeywell I.P.P. qualifies.
    
    A bit of advice from those who've trod this path would be appreciated.
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9.1Documentation RequiredULTRA::HUWed Apr 29 1987 14:0621
    I was told by the benefits administrator at Honeywell (Bull) in
    Billerica that the pre-tax plan is indeed a 401(k) plan.
    
    The SAVE Plan administrator of Digital said that they need a letter
    from the Honeywell's Pension Administrator stating:
    	1) that distribution came from a 401(k) plan.
    	2) that you received 100% of the value of the plan.
    	3) the date the funds were distributed to you.
    	4) the amount distributed and eligible for rollover.
    
    I was told that the person to write to at Honeywell is:
    	Pam Kennedy
    	Honeywell, MN12-4169
    	Honeywell Plaza
    	Minneapolis, MN 55408-1792.
    
    I have not done this yet.  So do not know if this will actually
    work out well.
    
    Does anyone know of an easier way?
    
9.2no questions asked...NAC::BENSONDTN 226-5157Wed Apr 29 1987 17:359
    Yes, 
    I went through the same process of finding out the degree of
    documentation required by the DIGITAL Save plan.  I must admit,
    I didn't have the faith in a prompt reply from Honeywell benefits
    admin. and so rolled it into an IRA.  Most financial service
    organizations don't require any documentation (they put all the
    burden on you - if the IRS ever asks).  I happened to use Dean Witter
    - they ask no questions....
    dave.
9.3It can be doneDOSADI::OKEEFEWed Jul 29 1987 14:3818
    You can roll over your Honeywell 401K to the Digital SAVE plan.
    I contacted Digital Investor Services at DTN 223-3191 for instructions.
    I initiated the rollover prior to receiving the distribution of
    funds. I also rolled my ERSOP into a IRA with the CU to avoid current
    taxation (more paperwork.)
    
    The 401K steps are:
    
    	1. Contact investor services for requirements.
    
    	2. Request from Honeywell the needed documentation.
    
    	3. Submit documentation to investor services and wait for approval.
    
    	4. Send funds to investor services at date specified by them.
    This rollover process cannot exceed 60 days from initial distribution.
    
    	Good Luck and have patience!
9.4Beware, the IRSman cometh!HYEND::NDEPLEDGEThu Jan 28 1988 13:5014
    I rolled over my Honeywell 401(k) distribution to a Merril Lynch
    retirement account when I left for the first time in 1983.  Honewell
    took about 4 months to make the payment, and I held the cash about
    55 days before paying a check into the new account.  I was audited
    by the IRS two years later, who claimed that they had no record
    of the second transaction.  The broker was not required to inform
    them (though there may be a rule now that they they must do this).
    I satisfied the IRS by sending a photo copy of the canceled check
    and the brokerage account.  You may save yourself a lot of fuss
    and bother if you send this evidence in with your tax return in
    the first place.
    Incidentally, I left HB again four months ago and I am still waiting
    to hear from them.  Here we go again!
    Norman