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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

5122.0. ""VLM64" for OpenVMS?" by CSC32::D_DONOVAN (SummaNulla(The High Point of Nothing)) Fri Feb 07 1997 11:30

	We're in  the process of trying to gather information on plans
and literature for a "VLM64" program on OpenVMS Alpha platforms.  I am 
working with a major customer who will not be migrating to Digital Unix
but needs to have the VLM database advantages that Digital Unix has.  
We would like to pitch V7.1 and beyond on Alphas (they're currently running 
all of their production systems on VAXes) so...

	Is there a "VLM64" Program Office for OpenVMS ala Digital Unix?  
How about pointers to literature or position statements that can be used 
to educate the customers as well as ourselves? 

Thanks in advance,

Dennis 
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5122.1AXEL::FOLEYhttp://axel.zko.dec.comFri Feb 07 1997 12:015

	Start with http://www.openvms.digital.com

							mike
5122.2STAR::KLEINSORGEFrederick KleinsorgeFri Feb 07 1997 12:1410
    
    OpneVMS is agressively pursuing the database server market, and the
    major database vendors.  V7.1 provides a 64-bit VLM environment, and
    we are actively making changes to the operating system to optimize
    for large database environment.
    
    I suggest contacting Nick Carr (product management) or Steve Zalewski
    (Base OpenVMS Technical Director and Strategic Planner).
    
    
5122.3A Modest ProposalUNXA::ZASLAWSteve ZaslawFri Feb 07 1997 13:2333
I worked for DEC and lived in Massachusetts during the Mike Dukakis era
when the state was known as "Taxachusetts." A right-wing politician in
Washington, when asked if he'd ever visited a communist country, opined that,
well, yes, he'd visited the Peoples' Republic of Massachusetts. Digital was, I
believe, the second largest (private?) employer in the state.

So, when Digital started falling on hard times in the late 80's, I figured we
were too important to the state to let die, and I asked myself, "why not have a
small new tax on the citizenry to make sure we make a profit?"

Now I hear in recent days that workers at the Internal Revenue Service, which
must do a few hundred $billion a year, must use up to nine separate computer
systems and a lot of sneaker-net to even try to service "customers" and
process returns. They have recently abandoned a several-billion dollar effort
to develop a new system. There is talk of privatizing at least some of the IRS.

Here's where I imagine DIGITAL can step in with our world-beating 64-bit data-
warehousing and transaction-processing technology. This seems to be an
application made to order for us, and if we can get a small cut of the
proceeds, we're in fat city! It WOULD be kinda like having our own taxing
authority, and we may even be able to avoid getting our hands dirty in this
awful competitive commercial environment we've been hearing so much about but
which we apparently just don't understand. Yuck, who needs that?

Now we still have a lot of smart software engineers and some tax lawyers and
accountants, and with DIGITAL UNIX (that's how it's written these days, BTW),
or with OpenVMS, which says in this notes string that it's in this market, we
should be able to handle this. And if for some reason we can't make the system
work, well, that'll take about five years and we need revenue now. There may
even be an opportunity to get a new name for the Company, something not akin to
"Computer Company", which our current albatross of a name is similar to in some
respects.

5122.4JULIET::ROYERNew Year - New Attitude!Fri Feb 07 1997 13:415
    I submitted a referal several years ago on the IRS "new computer"
    system.  I think that we could have done this well, but nothing ever
    happened. 
    
    Dave
5122.5Which is the way out of this wood? asked Alice.ALFA2::ALFA2::HARRISFri Feb 07 1997 16:323
    ...unless it were to become a Worcester fiasco of federal proportions.
    
    M