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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

4710.0. "European DVN with Bob Palmer" by ASABET::SILVERBERG (My Other O/S is UNIX) Thu Jul 11 1996 10:39

    Just watched the Bob Palmer European DVN here in ZKO.  Any comments
    on the content?  Seemed pretty straight forward on the internal
    systems problems.
    
    Mark
    
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4710.2ACISS1::BATTISThree fries short of a Happy MealThu Jul 11 1996 11:002
    
    <----- only till they get around to laying you off, of course.
4710.3How to grow business is THE questionIJSAPL::OLTHOFSpellchecked Henry AlthoughFri Jul 12 1996 04:0511
    Bob explained pretty well that we are in a good position bacause we are
    there where the market is going (64 bit, VLDB, NT, Internet, ..).
    
    But we have had excellent products for years and years. Now, how come we
    are still a 11-14B$ company (since 1988!), where competitors have
    showed sustainable growth. Having products is not enough.
    
    The question is: HOW ARE WE GOING TO REALIZE GROWTH.
    
    Cheers,
    Henny
4710.4VANGA::KERRELLsalva res estFri Jul 12 1996 04:5510
There were two main messages that I picked up:-

When we are leading the industry with productivity and admired for our 
profitability, we _may_ get better pay.

It's not Digital's fault that this isn't a good place to work anymore, it's 
the same everywhere, because consumers (us) demand higher quality at lower 
prices.

Dave.
4710.5BBPBV1::WALLACEUnix is digital. Use Digital UNIX.Fri Jul 12 1996 05:5911
    So, then, what are Bob's plans for improving productivity and
    profitability ? Whatever happened to "re-engineering the customer value
    chain?" (which seemed to be a good idea), rather than continuing to
    live by the structures and processes which have shackled this company
    for the last N years...
    
    I didn't see the DVN, but I don't mind, because actions say more than
    words.
    
    regards
    john
4710.6what can I say?ANNECY::HOTCHKISSFri Jul 12 1996 09:005
    re .4
    point one - be on the French TMT and you will get better pay regardless
    point two - there are parts of Digital less affected and still fun to
    be - some of the vertical business units for exampl.Wonder why...
    At least I found out that not all countries in Europe are the same ;-)
4710.7Many questions but few answersMARVIN::SZMIDTChris Szmidt, DEC Park II, ReadingFri Jul 12 1996 09:3330
This may not be a new thing but I noticed that Bob used the live questions as
subjects to talk around for a bit rather than as questions to answer. More often
than not, he didn't actually answer the question at all. There was so much
waffle that even the originator of the question probably forgot what the
question was.

Also... Someone asked about the 7000 job losses and the extra efficiency
required from the remainder. I don't think he answered that question BUT he
inadvertently answered one of my (unasked) questions: 

I wanted to know how the figure of 7000 was obtained. Was it:

a) they identified certain businesses we don't want to be in any more and there
were 7000 people involved in these (I could accept this)

or

b) They picked a number out of the air without any idea where they would come
from in order to cut people related expenses.

It sounded like b to me (it certainly wasn't a). The cuts are across the board
and we must all work more efficiently.

Regarding Q4... Strangely he refered to the results in the past tense a lot as
if they were already released (year on year improvement in revenue still true
for this Q4 and profitable before the charge).

He also talked about Q1 being BAD and even possibly even making a loss
(seasonally weak quarter being the main reason behind this) so beware!

4710.8PLAYER::BROWNLThe new car has finally arrived!Fri Jul 12 1996 12:364
    So there was no mention of the promised resignation if the results
    didn't improve, then?
    
    Laurie.
4710.9NITMOI::BROWNMon Jul 15 1996 11:218
RE:               <<< Note 4710.4 by VANGA::KERRELL "salva res est" >>>

>> It's not Digital's fault that this isn't a good place to work anymore, it's 
>> the same everywhere, because consumers (us) demand higher quality at lower 
>> prices.


Really?
4710.10FUNYET::ANDERSONThe death spiral continuesMon Jul 15 1996 11:475
Well, son, I can remember when Digital was doing very well and it was a great
place to work.  Yes, that was back in the days when consumers loved to pay more
and didn't care about quality.

Paul
4710.11VANGA::KERRELLsalva res estTue Jul 16 1996 09:447
re.9:

>Really?

Yep, really! What's up don't you believe it?

Dave.