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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
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4696.0. "Ramdisk Product and Performance specs wanted urge" by JOBURG::HARRIS () Sat Jul 06 1996 09:50

I urgently need some info ; both product and product performance and
comparisons.

Ramdisk on OpenVMS
And a comparison with EZ solidstate disks

The only pointer I could find with RNU was on Node ELWOOD but the White paper
has either gone home or moved.

I would appreciate any info or pointer to a node/person for white papers/info.
I had a look in VTX IR and was not successful in finding anything at all.

Regards Ivan Harris.
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4696.1TENNIS::KAMKam WWSE 714/261.4133 DTN/535.4133 IVOSat Jul 06 1996 13:1033
From www.storage.digital.com, the page has this advertisement:

   Digital's New EZ3x and EZ6x Solid State Disks 
   ...for mission critical applications

From VTX IR | SU | Keyword: solid state disk

   1    24-Apr-96  Product and Service Retirements                       SU3125
   2    24-Apr-95  Product and Service Retirements                       SU1BB6
   3    10-Oct-94  HSC High Performance Software V8.4 Expands SCSI       SU1AUB
                   Support and Adds Jukeb
   4    08-Sep-94  KZPAA PCI-to-SCSI Host Bus Adapter                    SU1AON
   5    11-Jul-94  StorageWorks HSD30 Array Controller                   SU1ADN
   6    02-May-94  StorageWorks HSZ40 Array Controller                   SU14A7
   7    07-Mar-94  The StorageWorks Family Announces New BA350 Shelf     SU13Z3
                   Upgrades
   8    21-Feb-94  EZ58R SCSI Solid State Disk Now Available             SU13WC
   9    29-Nov-93  EZ5x Additional Interconnect, System, and Operating   SU13FP
                   System Support
  10    04-Oct-93  EZ5x SCSI-2 Solid State Disks Now Shipping            SU136V
  11    26-Jul-93  New StorageWorks Solutions for Digital's VAX and      SU12QI
                   Alpha AXP Systems
  12    26-Jul-93  EZ5x High Performance SCSI-2 Solid State Disks        SU12QM
  13    26-Jul-93  Storage Resources                                     SU12QT

o  #EC-N0004-45, "Solid State Disks," a comprehensive handbook

I can't help with the RAMDISK article because I can't get access to the
    QUORUM information on TIMA.

	Regards,


4696.2DECRAM = RAMdisk JOBURG::HARRISSun Jul 07 1996 06:145
    Finally found some info ....DECram was the keyword that did the trick!
    
    Now All I need is a comparison whitepaper!
    
    Ivan
4696.3SSDEVO::PARRISKeith, Digital ConsultantSun Jul 07 1996 20:166
For most customers, the basic question is: Will the data be modified?  If not,
use DECram, because you don't care if the data goes away if the power fails or
the node crashes; you can always reload it on reboot.  If the data will be
modified, use a solid-state disk for its non-volatility.  Performance-wise, the
DECram will win hands-down, because it uses main memory and avoids the latency
of going out over some I/O bus to the solid-state disk.
4696.4"Ram Disk is *not* an installation procedure"JGODCL::APETERSLet's make it happen!Mon Jul 08 1996 04:041
    couldn't resist ;-)
4696.5what will it cost me to lose these data?WRKSYS::HOUSEKenny - PKO3-1/N75 - DTN 223-6720Mon Jul 08 1996 09:0318
    re .3 ...
    
    > For most customers, the basic question is: Will the data be modified? 
                                                                  --------
    > If not, use DECram, because you don't care if the data goes away if the
    > power fails or the node crashes; you can always reload it on reboot. 

    Actually, the question probably should be "are the data on the RAM disk
    recoverable at a reasonable cost?"  If you can reload raw data and
    rerun the job in a short time, this may be acceptable to most
    customers.  I wouldn't do data entry or data capture to a RAM disk, nor
    would I run a month-long job (that my boss was waiting for) without
    some sort of non-volatile checkpointing.
    
    As Keith pointed out, it does make sense to keep data in memory for
    performance.
    
    -- Kenny House
4696.6Ramdisk: I like that nameINDYX::ramRam Rao, PBPGINFWMYMon Jul 08 1996 11:515
Re: Ramdisk Product and Performance specs wanted urge

I am honored that Digital would choose to name a product after me :-)

Ram