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4539.1 | What happens to C&P | MSBCS::BMORRISON | | Thu Apr 11 1996 15:14 | 3 |
| I was wondering what now becomes of the C&P group that Cabrinety
had under him now that Christ is gone to HLO.
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4539.2 | | ATLANT::SCHMIDT | See http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/ | Thu Apr 11 1996 15:54 | 11 |
| "�", TGFKAC&P�, no longer exists, I think. Each of the components
of that group now reports directly to Christ. I know that "Embedded
and Realtime" (Bill Armitage) reports directly to Christ and I
believe that the Terminals and Hardcopy groups also do. And now,
so does Digital Semiconductors (Ed Caldwell).
Atlant
� TGFKAC&P = The Group Formerly Known as "Components and Peripherals",
with a nod to TL!
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4539.3 | | STOWOA::tavo.ogo.dec.com::ODIAZ | Octavio Diaz | Thu Apr 11 1996 17:13 | 4 |
| And I don't see why Christ has to move to HLO. As other notes mention,
he still has other groups besides DS.
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4539.4 | Here's an analysis I haven't seen elsewhere | DECCXX::AMARTIN | Alan H. Martin | Wed Apr 24 1996 12:04 | 72 |
| Re: DEC merging Storage Business Unit with its Systems
Business Unit
From [email protected] (Terry Shannon)
Organization Shannon Knows DEC
Date Sat, 13 Apr 1996 14:26:38 GMT
Newsgroups comp.arch.storage,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.sys.dec
In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Michael E
Willett) wrote:
> There are very few details of what this is all about in the DEC press
> release, except that there is said to be some synergy involved. Would
> anyone know what this is all about?
Here's my thoughts on what appears to be a slick exercise in creative
accounting...
Digital has been profitable on an overall basis for about a year and half
now. Nevertheless, several of the firm's business units have yet to
achieve sustained profitability, or the levels of profitability desired by
Bob Palmer and Co. Chief among these are Digital Semiconductor and the PC
Business Unit. Enrico Pesatori's Systems Business Unit might be finding it
difficult to reach its targets as well.
Even during DEC's darkest hours, the Components and Peripherals Business
Unit was profitable and remains so. StorageWorks is another big-time money
maker. And Windows NT revenues are growing quite nicely.
By colocating Windows NT with the PCBU, the PC unit can capitalize on
WNT's success. (It wouldn't surprise me to see the workstation segment
migrate over to the PC business, either.)
The annexation of the storage business into the Systems Business Unit is
sure to boost the bottom line of the latter organization.
And the realignment of the not-yet-profitable Digital Semiconductor unit
into the Components and Peripherals group will spare the much-maligned
chip business from intense scrutiny. Under the realigned business
structure, Digital will very likely be able to claim across-the-board
profitability. Yeah, that's the ticket!
This isn't to say that some of the realignments make good business sense.
After all, the CPBU sells a lot of PCI-based components, single board
computers, VME-based Alpha systems, et al that are manufactured by Digital
Semiconductor.
Colocating the WNT effort with the Intel-centric PCBU seems wise as well.
Not only is the bulk of DEC's WNT business based on the Intel platform,
the consolidation of OS and hardware is likely to simplify DEC's business
practices. One stop shopping sure beats playing phone tag with multiple
business units. On the other hand, it is incumbent on DEC to forcefully
articulate the fact that the realignment does not reflect diminished
support for WNT on Alpha. Despite the closer ties between the Intel and
WNT camps, DEC is banking on WNT to drive increased Alpha sales (stay
tuned until next month for some proof points).
So there is some synergy here. But I find it hard to believe that synergy
is the principal reason for bringing StorageWorks under the Systems
Business Unit umbrella. Yeah, storage gets sold with servers, but so does
networking gear. So where's the networking synergy?
All in all, methinks DEC is trying to ameliorate some of the side effects
of the Balkanized business unit strategy it has pursued for almost two
years. At the same time, I wouldn't be surprised to see the firm claim
"across-the-board profitability at the end of the fiscal year.
--
Terry C. Shannon, Editor & Publisher, Shannon Knows DEC
Shannon Knows DEC is a twice-monthly subscription-based
newsletter on all things Digital. For more details and
subscription info, send email to [email protected].
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4539.5 | | SUBSYS::NEUMYER | Your memory still hangin round | Wed Apr 24 1996 12:27 | 8 |
|
re .4
That's exactly what the Storage move was about. Now the SBU gets all
the profit from the storage business and doesn't have to share the
wealth.
ed
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4539.6 | | RLTIME::COOK | | Wed Apr 24 1996 15:53 | 12 |
|
>This isn't to say that some of the realignments make good business sense.
>After all, the CPBU sells a lot of PCI-based components, single board
>computers, VME-based Alpha systems, et al that are manufactured by Digital
>Semiconductor.
Digital Semiconductor manufactured almost none of our products. We are
reselling some of their evaluation boards when they are not undercutting
our prices.
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4539.7 | * Chess Game of the Corporate Gods * | CGOOA::ras009p02.kit.dec.com::wardlaw | Charles Wardlaw (DTN:635-4414) | Fri Apr 26 1996 00:16 | 61 |
| RE: Moving stuff around ...
One way to look at this SWks process it to add the missing pieces from
the rumor mill, as well as educated "crystal gazing" on management
strategies:
- The PCBU had a REAL problem. It's competition uses this model for
collecting $$$ from margins (more or less):
---Product------- --Margins--
1 laptops: next-to-none
2 low-end desktops: slim
3 low-end servers: moderate
4 high-end desktops: moderate
5 high-end servers: fat
Unfortunately for the PCBU, items 4 & 5 were Alpha-based in the NT world
(at least for us, right?), making them SBU goodies. Thus, we saddled the
PCBU with the difficult task of competing against the Compaq's of the
world without the margin $$$ as well as the product line breadth it
needed. Solution? Move 4 & 5 (yes, this will mean workstations too,
if you believe in this business model). Result? The PCBU gets to be the
single source for the NT story, the SBU can stop fighting with the
PCBU over the location of the line between them, and customers get a
clear message about OpenVMS and UNIX versus NT from Digital (at last).
- Now what about StorageWorks? If it goes to the SBU, it helps make up for
the loss of 4 & 5 (a growing market for the SBU). As well, what happens
if the PCBU (which needs a MUCH lower cost of product delivery) stops
using StorageWorks as a default source of storage H/W? Result? NT
solutions get cheaper, unless customer wants StorageWorks level of
gear (compatibility with SBU enterprise systems, or even they like
all-Digital solutions; some customers still do, you know).
Now add some additional fuel to the fire here:
- Parts-less MCS / well, if MCS is going to support primarily commodity
parts solutions for desktops and NT-servers, this might make sense. It
might also make sense for the part of MCS that focuses on DEC enterprise
system parts to be split off and run under the SBU (so that those that
want real premium service can buy it from the same organization that
sold them the systems and the storage being serviced; this is assuming
also that these folks recognize the value in the $$$ to be charged).
This way, the MCS that is NT & Distributed environment focused can
really deliver the work required of them (to customers and on behalf
of our partners like MS and Compaq).
- Smaller MCS / same logic applies. :^(
Now those of us that are left can watch the whole VMS/UNIX war happen again;
this time as SBU/ABU enterprise systems (on UNIX and O_VMS) versus the PCBU
and NT. Remember ... I said it here first!
Charles
(Who works for -
Professional Services <er>
Digital Consulting <er>
Systems Integration <er>
??? - It's about time for a name change
again, eh?)
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4539.8 | Remember your history. | NEWVAX::MZARUDZKI | preparation can mean survival | Fri Apr 26 1996 08:03 | 13 |
| re -.1
>> Charles
>> (Who works for -
>> Professional Services <er>
>> Digital Consulting <er>
>> Systems Integration <er>
>> ??? - It's about time for a name change
>>
You forgot Software Services, in the days before we got professional.
-Mike Z.
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4539.9 | | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | Ajax: World Champions 1995 | Fri Apr 26 1996 08:19 | 18 |
| > >> (Who works for -
> >> Professional Services <er>
> >> Digital Consulting <er>
> >> Systems Integration <er>
> >> ??? - It's about time for a name change
> >>
> You forgot Software Services, in the days before we got professional.
>
> -Mike Z.
>
Long ago you had SWAS, Software and Application Services.
In the middle we had the famous Digital Services (EDU, MCS plus DC).
And I thought the name is nowadays Solutions in Business....
Regards,
Jan
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4539.10 | | ATLANT::SCHMIDT | See http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/ | Fri Apr 26 1996 09:55 | 7 |
| > You forgot Software Services, in the days before we got professional.
Of course, back then, the name self-explained what it was that
this organization did. I wonder if anyone was impressed by the
newer, more-imressive, but-much-less-clear names?
Atlant
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4539.11 | | ROWLET::AINSLEY | DCU Board of Directors Candidate | Fri Apr 26 1996 10:15 | 5 |
| re: .7
That's an interesting idea.
Bob
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4539.12 | My theory Re .10 | DRDAN::KALIKOW | Lord help the Mr. without AltaVista! | Fri Apr 26 1996 11:04 | 5 |
| .10 Atlant> I wonder if anyone was impressed by the newer,
more-imressive, but-much-less-clear names?
Yep. Other practitioners of corporate doublespeak at other companies.
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