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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

4429.0. "Recycling: CDroms, other??" by CHOWDA::GLICKMAN (writing from Newport,RI) Fri Feb 16 1996 09:35

    Customer asked me this question:
    
    	Does Digital have any mechanism for recycling CDroms (i.e, old
    software distributiion)?  Can that be done?
    
    	They also wanted to know if there are other things that they
    receive from Digital that could be recycled via Digital?  
    
    	Do we have any kind of documentation that would address these
    concerns?
    
    	Thanks!
    
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4429.1All materials are hazardousMSBCS::BMORRISONFri Feb 16 1996 09:433
    Try VTX EHS for a start.  There may be a pointer there or someone
    to connect.
    
4429.2Watch TV...HANNAH::MCKINLEYNota beneFri Feb 16 1996 10:0028
From:   MRMTS::MRMTS::MRGATE::"SALES::A1::EHS"
To:     @Distribution_List
Subj:   Today's Environment to air Saturday on WMUR-TV, Manchester

From:   NAME: Environment, Health, & Safety  <EHS@A1@SALES@AKO>

        "Today's Environment," the nationally syndicated TV show that
covers environmental issues, will be broadcast in the Greater Maynard
Area on Saturday, Feb. 17 at 2:30 p.m. on WMUR-TV, Channel 9,
Manchester, N.H.

        Digital's Design for Environment Program will be featured in the
broadcast.  Design for Environment covers everything from product
conception and design to end of useful life, where equipment is taken
back to the Coontoocook, N.H. facility and disassembled.  Parts are
reused, refurbished, and recycled to reduce the amount of waste sent to
landfills.

         "Today's Environment" is syndicated in major TV markets
throughout the U.S. and reaches approximately 45 million households.
The magazine-format series provides an inside look at companies taking
on the environmental challenges of the 1990s.

        The Digital installment of "Today's Environment" will be
rebroadcast the week of May 6.  In addition, the program will be shown
internationally, in English or in the local language.  Program dates
and times will vary; consult local TV listings for broadcast
information in your area.
4429.3Call BobMAIL2::DUNAYFri Feb 16 1996 10:2912
    Give Bob Dangelmayer a call at DTN 237-5184.  Bob's group sells
    a service that address' what your looking for.
    
    Brian
    
    Common Name:   ROBERT DANGELMAYER 
    Search Surname:  DANGELMAYER  Search Given Name:  ROBERT,  ROBERT R,  
    DTN:  237-5184,  223-9138  Telephone:  (508)493-9138  
    Intrnl Mail Addr:  SHR3-1/D4  Location:  SHR  Node:  Stowoa  
    Username:  DANGELMAYER  Org Unit:  US MCS AVAIL/PROD SVCS  
    Position:  Program Manager
    
4429.4In Contoocook, contact ....CPCOD::JOHNSONA rare blue and gold afternoonFri Feb 16 1996 10:354
Tom Coots and Jim Shea in Contoocook are two others connected with the 
customer returns process.

Leslie
4429.5IROCZ::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Fri Feb 16 1996 12:444
  If someone finds the answer to this question, and if it's a simple answer,
please post it here. Recycling can mean many things, such as griding up the
plastic and making something else such a soda bottles out of it. Is there a
process by which the CDROMs can be reused as CDROMs?
4429.6DECWIN::MCCARTNEYFri Feb 16 1996 13:225
Is there a process where internal CDroms can be recycled as anything other
than in my office trash can?  I hate tossing these things in the trash every
few weeks.  I'd feel much better if there were some way to make them useful.

Irene
4429.7MAIL1::RMILLERFri Feb 16 1996 13:312
    They make great coasters to put under your coffee cup
    
4429.8In ZKO - you can recyle instead of trashing.STAR::MONTAGUEFri Feb 16 1996 13:3210
The ZKO site has "media" recyle bins in the major labs. The contents are
sent to the Contoocook plant to be recyled. Other sites would have to make
arrangements to collect and ship the material if they don't already do so.

Back a few:
I believe that a CDROM can not be re-burned. So if the data is stale then your
only real option is to recyle it.

/jon
4429.9IMBETR::DUPREZThe engineer formerly known as RolandFri Feb 16 1996 13:588
>  If someone finds the answer to this question, and if it's a simple answer,
>please post it here. Recycling can mean many things, such as griding up the
<plastic and making something else such a soda bottles out of it. Is there a
<process by which the CDROMs can be reused as CDROMs?

CD-ROMs aren't rewritable - the "RO" part stands for read only.  The 
information is stamped in.

4429.10QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centFri Feb 16 1996 14:174
Also, you couldn't melt the CD and reuse the plastic for another CD, as the
aluminum and label layers would contaminate it.

				Steve
4429.11you can cut them into wedges and make earingsRUMOR::FALEKex-TU58 KingFri Feb 16 1996 14:371
    
4429.12... after a moments reflection ...CTPCSA::CIUFFINIGod must be a Gemini...Fri Feb 16 1996 14:393
    
    The kids like them for locker mirrors. 
    jc
4429.13I saved this message about a year ago from dec.mail.lists.cdromWAYLAY::GORDONTired of driving...Fri Feb 16 1996 14:5629
Subj:   Recycling CD-ROM disks - dec.mail.lists.cdrom #7834

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] ("Bill.Wh
eeler") writes:
Lupe Garcia asked about recycling CD-ROM disks.
Here are some old notes from my files:

SONY, in conjuction with Digital Audio Disc Corp and Atlanta Precision
Molding will accept compact discs, and jewel cases to be used in the
production of jewel cases and jewel case trays.  Shrinkwrap and caddies
will also be accepted for recycling.  Contact 800/776-6939.  Please mark
packages "clean" (CDs and/or cases and/or trays) or "dirty" (packages with
any shrinkwrap or caddies) and send to:

Digital Audio Disk Corporation
Attentin:  Disc Recycling Program
1800 Fruitridge Ave
Terre Haute, IN  47804-1788
03-08-94

Hope this helps.

Bill Wheeler
Microcomputer User Support
Michigan State University Libraries
East Lansing, Michigan 48824-1048
Internet: [email protected]
AT&TNet: (517)353-4993

4429.14CIM::LORENLoren KonkusFri Feb 16 1996 16:103
    A year ago, I donated about 500 that I accumulated to my son's
    elementary school art teacher. They've been used in a number of 
    interesting projects.
4429.15mH/W = Computer Asset RecoverySWAM1::GOLDMAN_MAOy To the World!Fri Feb 16 1996 17:0317
    With regard to recycling of other things (hardware, office equipment,
    etc.), another avenue of contact is your local MCS Base Rep, New
    Business Rep or Relocation Services Specialist.  Bob Danglemeyer's
    service, Computer Asset Recovery Services, is part of these MCS
    Seller's responsibility to market, and Relocation Services
    responsibility to implement each project. 
    
    I know that Bob is currently on the prowl for 386 and above PCs and
    Laptops for Computer Asset Recovery.  He can make customers a pretty
    good deal on them, and turn around revenue fairly quickly.  Please
    search only in terms of quantities 50-100 or more.  
    
    Marla Goldman
    Relocation Services Specialist
    Western States Region South
    602-839-0718 Home Office
    602-839-6081 FAX
4429.16MAASUP::TAPProb tapp.....ph.# 410-750-5939Sat Feb 17 1996 18:383
    
    My son tied some to his big-wheel for decoration, while the other kids
    	flew them like frisbees...
4429.17contact MRB Ops in DOOJGODCL::ISERIEFSun Feb 18 1996 15:5110
    Try contacting someone of the MCS Material Recovery Business Operations
    in Contoocook, NH (@DOO). This is the former PDC (Product Disposition
    Center).
    
    The counterpart in Europe is MRB Ops in Nijmegen, The Netherlands.
    (@JGO). If you have problems, contact me at (*)889-9102.
    
    BTW: CD ROM's do have a high percentage of the valuable plastic
    polycarbonate, but the chemicals in the top layer make them difficult
    to recycle.
4429.18Christmas DecorationsSYOMV::FOLEYInstant Gratification Takes Too Long.Mon Feb 19 1996 12:264
    Old CD's fit behind the bulbs on our Christmas lights that framed the
    windows, and gave a really "special" effect.
    
    .mike.
4429.19Anybody have any left?WRAFLC::GILLEYCheer up Christian, you could be dead tomorrow.Wed Feb 21 1996 21:264
     I'll take 50 or so for a science project.  They make great wheels.
    email me (I'm serious).
    
    -chg
4429.20WLDBIL::KILGOREStop Global Whining!Thu Feb 22 1996 08:5810
    
    I read somewhere that you can make a great miniature solar furrnace
    with a CD -- find a suitably sized pot, put the CD on top and slide the
    assembly into a hot oven, where the CD will sag in the middle while
    the pot supports the rim.
    
    I imagine some experimentation would be necessary before the optimal
    shape is achieved, and I personally would have a fire extinquisher
    within easy reach.
    
4429.21Warm, not hotHERON::KAISERFri Feb 23 1996 02:193
CDs sag nicely in a warm oven.  "Hot"?  I wouldn't do that.

___Pete
4429.22BHAJEE::JAERVINENOra, the Old Rural AmateurFri Feb 23 1996 10:044
    re .20: Maybe one could use them for mini-reflector-telescopes? Or
    small satellite dishes?
    
    ;-)
4429.23Not really recycling, but...AUSSIE::MOSSMicrocode: makes a cat run like a dogSun Mar 03 1996 22:348
    CD-ROMs make great little captive lightning displays if you
    nuke them for 5 seconds or so in the microwave oven.
    
    For more details see http://www.hamjudo.com/notes/cdrom.html
    
    (Note well the warnings, it _does_ smell, and may damage your
    oven. Stick a cup of water in with them to minimise the risk. 
    Your mileage may vary, I thought it was fun)
4429.24Customer has a company that will take CDs... but?CHOWDA::GLICKMANwriting from Newport,RITue May 28 1996 15:5714
    Me again (.0)
    
    Customer is a government site and claims that their environmental group
    has a company that will take CDrom off their hands.  I don't know what
    they do with them -- particularly from the discussion in this note.
    
    The customer is concerned about giving them the CDroms.  He was
    planning to put a scratch in each CD before sending it off.  Is there
    any legal problem with the customer giving the CDs to this company?
    
    Appreciating any comments or pointers to finding the answer to this
    one.
    
    Thanks!
4429.25ATLANT::SCHMIDTSee http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/Tue May 28 1996 16:0610
  If scratching isn't sufficient, then how 'bout:

    1. Run 'em through a shredder.

    2. Slice 'em in a paper cutter.


  Either should be suffient for any unclassified purpose.

                                   Atlant
4429.26AXEL::FOLEYRebel without a ClueTue May 28 1996 17:0410

	Set them on a cereal bowl and nuke'm in the microwave. 

	Run gritty sandpaper over it.

	If it's government, then they should have rules and regs in
	place for disposal.

							mike
4429.27RANGER::WASSERJohn A. WasserMon Jun 10 1996 18:4725
> put a scratch in each CD before sending it off.

	Probably not sufficient.

> Run 'em through a shredder.

	That would do the trick...  Unfortunately I don't think
	most paper shreaders would be able to digest a CD.  I'll
	give it a try.

> Slice 'em in a paper cutter.

	They may not slice very well...  I tried bending one in two
	and it shattered all over the place!  I'll give it a try.

> Set them on a cereal bowl and nuke'm in the microwave. 

	Good fireworks!  This is probably as effective as necessary
	and fairly quick.

> Run gritty sandpaper over it.

	Do that on the painted side...  The data side has thicker
	plastic and can be polished.

4429.28LJOTUB::SYSTEMTue Jun 11 1996 09:1610
    RE: all
    
    The best way to destroy a CD is to scratch it in a circular motion on
    the readable side along with removing the painted side.  The painted
    side provides a reflective surface for the laser.  Circular scratches
    cause the bits to be unreadable.  Scratches which radiate from the
    center can be corrected.  This is why it is recommended to clean a CD
    by wiping from the center toward the outside.
    
    Dan
4429.29Tried a few options...RANGER::WASSERJohn A. WasserTue Jun 11 1996 10:5716
> Run 'em through a shredder.

	The little shreader here can't digest CD-ROMs very well.
	It might be able to digest them if they were first cut into 
	strips about 1" wide.

> Slice 'em in a paper cutter.

	This works, as does cutting with scissors.  An office
	paper punch does not put a hole through a CD-ROM.

Other options:

	Disolve them in a solvent.

	Melt them in an oven.