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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

4357.0. "Detailed HW docs still available?" by DECIDE::MOFFITT () Wed Jan 10 1996 21:02

One of our best aerospace primes in Denver is preparing to bid a large 
satellite ground station in Japan. We've done a number of similiar stations 
around the world with these folks and they're a good OpenVMS shop.

There's an interesting twist in this proposal. The end user is requiring a 
complete set of documentation for all systems proposed including computer
platforms and peripherals. I would imagine that they're considering self 
maintenance after the warranty period.

We used to supply this documentation as a matter of course back in the 70s 
but I've been away from MCS (F.S. back then...) and don't know if we still 
can provide documentation (complete printsets, illustrated parts 
breakdowns...) to this level. The prime is willing to pay for the 
documentation - I'd just like to know what the process to obtain it looks 
like these days.

Any pointers or contacts sure would be appreciated.

thanks,
tim moffitt
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4357.1We do documentation for HW/components and peripheralsHANNAH::MILANESEThu Jan 11 1996 09:3711
    Hi, Tim,
    
    I work for Shared Engineering Services as
    a Documentation Manager in the Components
    and Peripherals space.
    
    Give me call.
    
    Sylvia Milanese
    297-5309
    HANNAH::MILANESE
4357.2Service Information Generally Available...XDELTA::HOFFMANSteve; VMS EngineeringThu Jan 11 1996 09:3818
   There are any number of technical manuals available for most Digital
   hardware products -- there are (still) a few widgets that are considered
   to be rather proprietary, but most systems and most controllers have
   service manuls and print-sets available.  For a cost, of course.

   One of the more appropriate things for these folks to consider is the
   Digital Assisted Services (DECmailer) offering.  Unless the end-customer
   folks are willing and able to work with surface-mount technologies, they
   will likely want to get the information necessary to isolate to the `FCU'
   level and swap -- then they can use DECmailer to get the widget repaired
   or replaced.

   The process is to acquire the user's or owner's guide for the system
   and look up the service information part numbers in the section covering
   `related' documentation.  One can probably acquire these documentation
   part numbers through other means, as well.

4357.3Digital Assisted Services Can HelpMKOTS3::MACDONALDThu Jan 11 1996 17:3814
    Digital Assisted Services not only still offers any available
    hardcopy documentation, but they also sell a subscription service for
    maintenance documentation and related information on CD-ROM or microfiche 
    (yep, it is still used). It is called MDS (Maintenance Documentation
    Service).
    
    Printsets are pretty much a thing of the past - illustrated parts
    breakdowns are usually (not always) included in maintenance manuals/
    users guides today.
    
    There are a number of places you can get info on what Digital Assisted
    Services has to offer, but the quickest route for the information you
    are after is to contact George Gardner, Corp. Business Manager for MDS.
                                        
4357.4Call 800-344-4825HSOSS1::CHURNThu Jan 11 1996 17:393
    You can contact the Maintenance Doocumentation Service group at
    1-800-344-4825.  This is one of the services available from the Digital
    Assisted Service group in MCS.
4357.5Got it!DECIDE::MOFFITTFri Jan 12 1996 14:139
Thanks to all who responded here and to those who have cotacted me
personally. I think we're onto something with Digital Assisted Services. 
The prime said it sounds like the available documentation may well meet his 
needs so I'd say we're in the running.

THanks again for the input.

enjoy,
tim moffitt
4357.6try thisSPEZKO::WHITEParrot_TrooperThu Jan 18 1996 16:265
    
    have you tried http://mcsww1.das.dec.com/mcsl/mcslhome.html?
    
    chet
    
4357.7Another one...JGODCL::WSMITSDo it today, tomorrow never comesFri Jan 19 1996 09:2715
      
      I've another one for you. It's intent to become a One stop hardware
      shopping for MV service centers and service desks...  But, keep in
      mind it is heavily under construction. And it will change over the
      next weeks.  There are also drawings, repair specifications, in the
      repair library, but they are password protected. For access contact the
      service desk ENGQA @JGO (DTN 889-9666). 
      The pointer is:      

                http:://piper7.jgo.dec.com/

      Pls sign the guestbook.      

      Wilbert.