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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:	The Digital way of working

Moderator:	QUARK::LIONELON

Created:	Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	5321
Total number of notes:	139771

4243.0. "Equal Opportunity??" by ABACUS::STORY () Thu Nov 02 1995 11:32

    Hello,
    
    I have a friend at work that has been told his job is at risk
    and that he should look for another job.
    
    After doing some checking, I have noticed several jobs available
    in the MCS organization, but what puzzles me is, they are closed
    to MCS employees only?. 
    
    Digital is supposed to be an Equal Opportunity Employer, is
    closing people out of an organization equal opportunity?.
    
    I realize it's a head count issue, but is it really equal
    opportunity?. 
    
    The friend I am speaking of is a very good worker. I feel, if 
    given the chance he could benifit the organization I am speaking
    of.
    
    Paul

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
4243.1		MAIL1::CRANE		`Thu Nov 02 1995 11:51`	1
	I won`t tell you what I really think about this.
4243.2		HDLITE::SCHAFER	Mark Schafer, Alpha Developer's support	`Thu Nov 02 1995 11:53`	4
	Did you call the recruiter that's listed for the job? I'm not sure that EEO laws have any control over transfers within a company. Mark
4243.3		QUARK::LIONEL	Free advice is worth every cent	`Thu Nov 02 1995 13:28`	5
	"Equal Opportunity Employer" means that there is not supposed to be discrimination based on race, sex, age, religion, national origin (and maybe a couple of other things). Nothing about who you work for now... Steve
4243.4		STAR::FENSTER	Yaacov Fenster, Process Improvement, Quality & Testing tools @ZK	`Thu Nov 02 1995 13:30`	3
	This reminds me of a year or two back when people were telling about companies that didn't want to hire people with a DEC mindset. I don't recall anyone claiming then that it was illegal...
4243.5	Boy, talk about a bad rep!	STAR::DIPIRRO		`Fri Nov 03 1995 11:15`	2
	That's actually kind of funny...Even Digital now won't hire people who work for Digital!
4243.6		QUARK::LIONEL	Free advice is worth every cent	`Fri Nov 03 1995 13:12`	4
	This sort of thing has happened before inside Digital, especially during the time of massive layoffs. Steve
4243.7	Match the skills!	MIMS::SANDERS_J		`Fri Nov 03 1995 14:10`	11
	Your base note did not say that your friend's skill set matched what MCS was looking for. You just said he was a good worker. Well there are very hard working and dedicated carpenters, but would you hire one if you were looking for a brain surgeon. I think Digital should hire the people who have the skills the job requires, not just move people around to be nice. Maybe your friend has the right skill set, in which case you might have a valid complaint, but you failed to mention anything about this.
4243.8	Hire any brain surgeon's lately?	KAOM25::WALL	DEC Is Digital	`Fri Nov 03 1995 15:03`	8
	re .7 Maybe you missed the point. The "friend" is in fact secondary; the fact that an entire organization is excluded from participating in an employment competition is the issue. Rob Wall
4243.9		HDLITE::SCHAFER	Mark Schafer, Alpha Developer's support	`Fri Nov 03 1995 15:15`	7
	In fact, we're looking for brain surgeons with UNIX experience. :-) Please send me resumes and I'll get them to the right people. Seriously! Mark
4243.10		CSC32::PITT		`Mon Nov 06 1995 08:47`	9
	FWIW, I think that the reason that folks aren't being moved INTO the MCS organizations is that some folks have made the determination that some groups in MCS are over head count so they are shifting people around within MCS before opening it up... But as .9 said, if your friend has UNIX experience, have him send a resume. We are in desperate need of expertise in that area (and pretty much only that area I think...)