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4226.1 | | netrix.lkg.dec.com::thomas | The Code Warrior | Mon Oct 30 1995 10:55 | 1 |
| sounds closer to fact than rumor.
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4226.2 | What goes around? | MNATUR::LISTON | | Mon Oct 30 1995 12:38 | 6 |
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RE: .0
Yeah, and they'll probably work out a swap (for a loss) whereby Digital
gets the MRO4 facility back from Fidelity.
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4226.3 | | IROCZ::MORRISON | Bob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570 | Tue Oct 31 1995 17:58 | 7 |
| Why might Merrimack refuse to allow Fidelity to put an addition on MKO2?
I recall that the MKO site used to have a huge amount of land? Did Digital
sell off some land (before the Fidelity purchase) to the extent that there is
not enough land to accommodate an addition? Or is the issue something other
than land?
The MKO2 closure seems to not have inconvenienced a lot of people. My sense
is that closing MKO1 would cause major problems for a lot of people.
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4226.4 | | MKOTS3::MITCHELL | | Wed Nov 01 1995 09:27 | 6 |
| Being a town planner for 6 yrs I had to consider the amount of land as only
one of many factors. You have to think about many other things. The
biggest things that would effect this decision, in my opinion, would be
added trafic to an already crowded road system, wet areas, more
fire fighting expenses, SCHOOL space for the already much over crowded
merrimack school system, etc. The list can go on and on.
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4226.5 | The only real issue is SCHOOL overcrowding | TRLIAN::LAIL | Bob Lail | Wed Nov 01 1995 11:48 | 33 |
| + <<< Note 4226.4 by MKOTS3::MITCHELL >>>
+
+ Being a town planner for 6 yrs I had to consider the amount of land as only
+ one of many factors. You have to think about many other things. The
+ biggest things that would effect this decision, in my opinion, would be
+ added trafic to an already crowded road system, wet areas, more
+ fire fighting expenses, SCHOOL space for the already much over crowded
+ merrimack school system, etc. The list can go on and on.
+
+
RE .4
The "roads" issue was the source of the downsized MKO2 when it
was first built. That is no longer an issue, or at least it
should not be. The Industrial Interchange, exit 10, and the Camp
Sergeant Rd bypass were built to remove those issues. The fire
fighting expense issue is covered by the ponds behind each of the
facilities and has never been an issue with the Merrimack
Planning Board. The real issue today is the over crowded school
system. I hope the Merrimack Planning Board and the School Board
can work these issues together without the controversy we have
seen in the past.
Considering how the tax rates on residential housing have
increased in the past couple of years Merrimack needs more not
less commercial tax payers.
\Bob Lail
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4226.6 | | HDLITE::SCHAFER | Mark Schafer, Alpha Developer's support | Wed Nov 01 1995 11:57 | 6 |
| okay, so it sounds like the town wants Fidelity to pay for a new
school. Fidelity probably estimates the cost of adding to the facility
+ the new school for the town and says, "We might be better off buying
the other DEC building."
Mark
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4226.7 | Say again? | DECC::VOGEL | | Wed Nov 01 1995 12:15 | 39 |
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Re .4: (Much of this repeats .5, but I feel it needs to be said anyway)
Do you know the situation or are you speculating?
> The biggest things that would effect this decision, in my opinion, would be
added traffic to an already crowded road system,
Most traffic to a new MK facility would use exit 11.
The rest would use the newly built Camp Sargent bypass. Do you consider
these roads crowded?
> wet areas,
Can't argue with this one as I don't know the layout of the land.
However I was not under the impression that this part of Merrimack
had a shortage of wetlands.
> more fire fighting expenses,
Huh??? I drive past the South Merrimack fire station all the time.
I almost never see the fire trucks out of the station.
> SCHOOL space for the already much over crowded Merrimack school system
Could you explain this one. I thought it was people who live in houses
which send children to the school system, and not businesses. In fact
property such as MK contribute a lot more money to the town than they
take away. If you're worried about school space then maybe building
permits to residential housing should be denied, but not commercial
building.
It seems to me this is exactly the type of building we want in Merrimack.
Ed
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4226.8 | Not too mysterious | BECALM::NYLANDER | | Wed Nov 01 1995 16:32 | 27 |
| OK, everybody calm down. There's a perfectly reasonable explanation.
The buildable land which remains on the Digital plot in Merrimack is
"landlocked": there's no way (that had yet been proposed to the
Planning Board) to get to or from that plot overland, without either
getting an easement granted from somebody else to put a road / driveway
over their non-Digital land, or to put a new road or driveway through
or perilously close to some "wetlands".
Those sorts of folks who feel entitled to dictate private property use
to other property owners have some problems with putting a road or
driveway through or near a "wetlands".
So the Planning Board told Digital to come back with a proposal that
would provide access to a new building, with acceptable "environmental
impact".
Digital said "OK, no problem, we think we can figure out how to do that
and make everybody happy".
The Planning Board said "Great, we'll take a look at it when you're
ready".
At this point, there's no evidence of anything more stupid or
mysterious than this. Presuming that Digital can make a reasonable
proposal for access to a new building, there's no reason to think that
there will be a big problem.
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4226.9 | Facts at last | DECCXX::VOGEL | | Wed Nov 01 1995 20:54 | 8 |
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RE .8 - Thanks Chip. That makes a good deal of sense.
I though the author of .4 was speaking facts and not just speculating.
Ed
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4226.10 | confused | ARCANA::CONNELLY | Don't try this at home, kids! | Thu Nov 02 1995 01:20 | 9 |
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re: .8
Are we talking about MKO2-&-1/2 or an MKO3? I thought the original
discussion was about adding the missing second half of MKO2 (from
the cafeteria south) vs. building a whole new building. Certainly
access exists for that already.
- paul
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4226.11 | | SKYLAB::FISHER | I've advocated term limits for 19 years! - Rep Bob Dornan | Mon Nov 06 1995 17:08 | 24 |
| It sounded to me like .4 was talking about generic issues that effect such
decisions.
This is also a generic response to .7:
>> SCHOOL space for the already much over crowded Merrimack school system
>
> Could you explain this one. I thought it was people who live in houses
> which send children to the school system, and not businesses. In fact
> property such as MK contribute a lot more money to the town than they
> take away. If you're worried about school space then maybe building
> permits to residential housing should be denied, but not commercial
> building.
If Fidelity builds a new building, they will probably bring new employees into
the area to fill it. Some percent of the new employees will choose to live
close to the plant (i.e. in Merrimack), putting pressure on developers to build
new houses. Standard studies show that each new house costs a city $1000 over
and above the new tax revenues it generates through schools, services, etc. I
don't know if Merrimack has impact fees on new houses or not, but regardless,
impact fees are one-time, and the $1000 is continuous.
Burns
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