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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:	The Digital way of working

Moderator:	QUARK::LIONELON

Created:	Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	5321
Total number of notes:	139771

4145.0. "Rational Rose, Rogue Wave, Centerline Apps???" by TONEAL::ONEAL () Mon Sep 25 1995 15:25

Dear Colleagues,

I'm looking for input as to LOST sales opportunities due to the lack of products
from the following three companies:

Centerline Software - products of interest but not exclusively are CodeCenter,
                      ObjectCenter, etc. Previous products included Saber-C.

Rational Software   - Rational Rose, Rational Rose/C, Rational Rose C++,
                      Rational Rose/SQL, etc.

Rogue Wave          - Class libraries, especially: DB.h++, Tools.h++, etc.


I'm also looking for near-term sales opportunities that we would lose if we did
not have these applications or others from the above companies.  Do you/did you
need these tools on Digital Unix first, or on NT Alpha?  The greater the detail
of the potential sale the better, i.e. $-value, # of seats, sales rep. name,
other gating factors, etc.

Thanks, I look forward to your input.
                      
Tim O'Neal 
([email protected], or [email protected])
Software Partner Group
dtn: 297-3387


P.S.  This note cross-posted to Digital_Unix, C_Plus_Plus, Digital, 
      ObjectBroker, and WINDOWS-NT.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
4145.1		BHAJEE::JAERVINEN	Ora, the Old Rural Amateur	`Tue Sep 26 1995 06:35`	11
	I've been using Rogue Wave on Digital platforms for years (for customer paid projects, that is). While it may not be officially supported on Digital Unix, it is typical Unix software (you get the sources and build the libraries yourself). I don't think they deliver binaries anyway (except maybe ready-made DLLs for PCs). And wasn't at least part of the Rational class libraries taken over by Rogue Wave recently? At least the Booch stuff if I remember correctly. Nevertheless, I agree it would be good if this stuff were _officially_ supported.
4145.2	Rational alliance...	ALFA2::ALFA2::HARRIS		`Tue Sep 26 1995 14:05`	3
	For Rational situation, contact Dennis Rood @SEO (NWD002::ROODDE). Mac
4145.3	WRT Rogue Wave and Rational	TONEAL::ONEAL		`Tue Sep 26 1995 14:16`	22
	Thanks for both of your responses (.1 and .2). Yes, I recognize that Rogue Wave has been in use for quite a number of years, and in some cases (of their more recently added class libraries, e.g. Money.H++, View.h++, etc.) the product can be supplied in either source or object form (the object being less expensive). RW has a significant market in the embedded software market, i.e. the previous reference to Rational. Wrt to RW, I think that it would be beneficial to be "officially" supported by RW. Lastly, Dennis Rood left Digital about two months ago after 19 years. I do have some contacts but was looking for customer-driven demand information for these applications on Alpha. Thanks, Tim O'Neal dtn: 297-3387
4145.4		NWD002::BAYLEY::Randall_do	Software: Making Hardware Useful	`Wed Sep 27 1995 12:22`	7
	We have a customer who's using Rogue Wave class libraries on Digital Unix to build their product. I was unaware that there's no support from RW for this. Is that true? Don Randall Seattle
4145.5		PHDVAX::LUSK	Ron Lusk--[org-name of the week here]	`Wed Sep 27 1995 12:38`	5
	I've persuaded my OpenVMS/VAX customer to use Rogue Wave for my part of the project (the rest is in C). We got the UNIX source, and I tweaked them into a VMS shareable image. I doubt that it's supported (RW knew we were using it on VAX, but we got the UNIX source disk anyway--took me some time to uncompress/untar it, etc.).
4145.6	Needed CodeCenter's stuff on UNIX, now on NT?	TROOA::BROWN	RPC - Really Practical Computing	`Tue Oct 10 1995 02:44`	9
	The lack of Centerline products on DEC OSF/1 was just one reason we couldn't break into the HP-UX stronghold at Bell Canada. Centerline is was chosen because it runs on all their platforms - HP, Sun, AIX. We are now hotly pursuing their NT business. What chance for CodeCenter & ObjectCenter on Alpha NT? -ian