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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

4140.0. "they shoot horses don't they" by GTALIF::CEWBMGR (Last of the B.O.H.I.C.Ans) Fri Sep 22 1995 11:17

    
    when a horse breaks its leg isn't the last thing the vet does is put
    a bullet in its brain ?
    
    corporate has just done the same thing...
    
    my name is Paul Button.  i work in Merrimack NH.  i am the co-chair of
    the MKO Employees Activities Committee.
    
    we do things like bowling parties for the families of employees,
    skating parties, flea markets, concerts, discount movie ticket, etc,
    etc, ad nauseum...you know, the stuff that makes people feel good and
    think positively about coming to work ?
    
    we have been able to use site-wide e-mail distribution services to let
    people know what was going on and how to get hooked up for an activity.
    
    now, it seems, this capability has been removed with a re-organization
    of these e-mail dis services into a faceless agglomeration called
    Readers Choice.  now people have to actually get into VTX and ASK to be
    notified of the fun things going on in their areas.
    
    well, guess what..the instructions do NOT work so people give up and
    then, guess what..we get no response to our messages and unbelievably
    then, guess what..the EAC falls apart...
    
    i had to say something...i know we're just a small thing in the big
    growth to profit edict...but you know what ?  this s*cks...and you know
    what ?  i know nobody gives a crap.
    
    i work on a MCAD server called BOHICA, i asked what the word-name
    meant.
    
    i was told:
    		Bend
    		 Over
    		  Here
    		   It
    		    Comes
    		     Again
    
    	cute...i thought...but you know what ? can you really, really guess
    	what ?
    
    	it hurts.						
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4140.1MU::porterthere is no such word as 'centric'Fri Sep 22 1995 12:4819
Are you simply suffering from a general change in
service, or was this action specifically directed at
the Employee Activities list?

If it's part of a general policy about reducing the
amount of scattershot email that gets sent out, then
I'm afraid I applaud.  I get too much junk as it is 
(where 'junk' is obviously subjective; one man's junk
 may be another man's invaluable information).  

So it seems entirely reasonable to me that people who
want to hear about Employee Activities should sign
up for the list.  Assuming, of course, that (a) they
all know they must sign up (b) they all know *how* to
sign up.

There's no excuse for the bit about the system
not working correctly, though.

4140.2plugh.ibg.ljo.dec.com::needleMoney talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!"Fri Sep 22 1995 13:5211
I was an initial detractor to Readers Choice, but it has come a LONG way.
I prefer to only be inundated with what I choose and not be on a mailing
list.

That said, Readers Choice works pretty well and I suspect you're having an
isolated problem.  I'd suggest you contact someone in Kathleen Warner's
corporate communications organization.  The person responsible for Reader's
Choice works for Kathleen.  Can't remember her name, but she's very helpful
and conscientious.

j.
4140.3Well, I don't know...LANDO::BELMANFri Sep 22 1995 13:5826
At first I didn't subscribe to anything from the
nameless entities.  Then, I discovered I suffered
from what one of my colleagues called "terminal 
beep envy" as my cubemates got MAIL, one by one, 
from these entities and I did not.  So I subscribed 
to some, and, as before, some of it is not useful
to me and some of it is.

I did not know I could sign up for employee activities
in my area.  I do not know how I could sign up for
employee activities in my area.  Actually, the area
I work in is very different from the area I live in.

I doubt if I could remember instructions to enroll
for the information, should I choose to accept it,
since I already have trouble accessing VTX, the 
information repository, and the web.  I meticulously
copied down the web site (and it was *very* long)
for the web site that presumably would have shown me
some magazine's article about "Palmer Takes Big Risk",
or some such. (I can remember how to use NOTES -- so
far...)   But the web simplely let me watch the
world turn for endless minutes and I finally gave up.

Yah, I miss the old days. I know they'll never come
back, but I'm sorry, .0, that it hurts.
4140.4PADC::KOLLINGKarenFri Sep 22 1995 14:355
    The user interface to VTX, and by that I mean both the actual
    interface and figuring out how to find what you want to access
    via VTX is probably the worst I've ever seen.  It's beyond me
    why we can't do better than this.
    
4140.5plugh.ibg.ljo.dec.com::needleMoney talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!"Fri Sep 22 1995 14:399
                                            For more information, contact:
                                            Program Office,     DTN 244-7023 OR
                                            SALES::READERCHOICE   (508)264-7023


Or if you get past the badge number and affiliations screens, one of the 
7 options is "Provide Feedback".

j.
4140.6keep tidy with self destructive mailBRUMMY::WILLIAMSMBorn to grepSun Sep 24 1995 07:0616
    I'm with .0 on te VTX instructions, I can't get VTX to do what I hope
    it can do.  As for WWW access, its a rumour nothing more.   Compuserve
    is expensive but it works, if the web is your thing that is.
    
    My junk mail tends to come from being on three of four distribution
    lists for techie mails, unfortunetly if I ask to be removed from one
    there is a real possiblility of missing something important.
     
    How about the self destroying E-mail to help clean up?  Put an expiry
    date on an E-mail and it deletes itself.  All these "the coffee machine
    by reception will be off for two hours" can go die when the machine is
    fixed. 
    
    Here's looking forward to the VTX GUI  ;)
    
    R. Michael
4140.7SHRMSG::DEVIrecycled stardustSun Sep 24 1995 23:119
    To all those complaining about VTX, have you tried the latest VTX
    windows client, (now called Teamlinks Library Services Version 2.5 
    just to confuse people even more)
    
    Many times what you think is wrong with VTX is really the fault of a
    poorly designed VTX infobase.  And - what version of VTX is your system
    running?  It's up to Version 6.2.
    
    Gita