Conference 7.286::digital

    Is BackOffice at least one year more recent than ALL-IN-1(tm)?
    
    Then I'm FOR it!!!
    

    Exchange is so new, its not yet available. 
    
    Exchange will NOT convert WPS-PLUS to ASCII, or give any messages that
    it is going to.
    
    However it WILL convert Rich Text Format (bloding, underline, italics,
    colours, fonts, embedded objects etc) into ASCII. The problem is NOT
    the system that is being used, its the fact the system thinks other
    systems aren't as clever as it is!

    P'raps I was unclear, Chris.  I'm not looking for something to convert
    WPS-PLUS to ASCII, with or without any notification.  I *am* looking
    for any technological enticement that will finally and forevermore wean
    the laggards in our Management Cadre from their antiquated toolset. 
    
    If BackOffice and/or Exchange is that enticement, then bravo!
    
    PS -- loved the typo "(bloding, underline, italics, colours, fonts,
    embedded objects etc)" but methought that one could order a special
    BackOffice CensorPak that would automatically delete the bloding? :-)
                                                                 

re Note 4124.3 by DRDAN::KALIKOW:

>     I *am* looking
>     for any technological enticement that will finally and forevermore wean
>     the laggards in our Management Cadre from their antiquated toolset. 
  
        Perhaps an adequate enticement will have to be something
        other than technological.

        Bob

    Well Bob, I figure that since we're down from ~120K to ~60K then we're
    BOUND to have a Management Cadre half its former size, and I figure
    further that the set of those who were Asked To Leave is BOUND to be
    congruent with the set of those who did Not stay Current With
    Technology.  But wait, then why am I so eager to see the end of the use
    of an antiquated toolset?  I must be confused somewhere.  I'll get back
    to ya on that.  Perhaps you're right about adequate enticements.
    
    -- And speaking of not current with technology, WHY are we still using
    DECnotes??  :-)
       

    We're still using DECnotes because it is efficient, widely available
    and relatively easy to use and search.  WebForum has a LONG way to go
    in that regard.
    
    				Steve

    Of course, you're right, and on ~all points too.  That's why I didn't
    come right out -- in my usual understated way -- for Workgroup Web
    Forum(tm)...  Hey, DECnotes doesn't have much to apologize for... like
    an old car that continues past the 200K-mi. mark, it owes us nothing.
    
    We don't need to apologize for using it, either.  There are so few more
    recent alternatives that do what it does.  Now WPS-Plus, on the other
    hand... :-)  All of which you know.  P'raps we had a sarcasm-meter
    impedance mismatch, is all.
    

    This is primarily to the base note and to .2.  MCSLT (Multivendor
    Customer Services) is running Windows95 and is using Microsoft Exchange
    for E-mail.  The goal is to have 85% of MCS operating in a Windows95 /
    Exchange environment by the end of FY96.  Gateways exist from Exchange
    to VMSmail, ALL-IN-ONE, and internet ... as well as the ability to
    include FAX destinations in the mail.  The Americas, Europe, and Asia
    Pacific will be the three Exchange Domains.
    
    Training ... little or none was required.  The software is (largely)
    intuitive ... lots of Help Wizards all over the place.
    
    Rich

   re -1
    <Training ... little or none was required.  The software is (largely)
    <intuitive ... lots of Help Wizards all over the place.
    
    One mans intuition is another mans downfall.
    
    
    Actually, I've recently heard that MCS is presently offering a "plan"
    to migrate customers with at least 100 PCs into the windows 95 era. 
    The plan supposedly includes:
    
    1/2 day seminar for users for Win95 training.  While those users are
    attending the seminar, MCS is upgrading their workstations... so that
    when the 1/2 day is over, they come back to fully configured
    workstations.
    
    Mehopes, nay, mePRAYS, that the developers of this "plan" have
    read, studied, and UNDERSTAND the principles described in the Windows
    95 Deployment Planning Guide... and are not just figuring on merely
    installing the Win95 BITS to these customers' machines.  Gawd!  What a
    mess support will have if that's all they are planning to do!  
    
    I'd give an eye tooth to be able to talk to whoever set this up... as I
    have a very uneasy feeling about it.
    
    
    tony

>                -< Who trains our SLT? >-

The University Of Life, the College Of Knowledge, the Academy of Experience...

Oh, sorry, you just mean Windows!

Ask Microsoft a little, and they'll tell you that it's wiser
to move past Win 95, and go directly to WNT.  If large
customers are being advised to do that, why is Digital
moving to Win 95?

As for ALL-IN-1, what's wrong with it?  It works, which is 
more than a lot of email packages do.  If you don't like 
WPS+, use Teamlinks...

Re: .0

Digital Learning Services is offering training on Windows 95 to customers 
RIGHT NOW!!!!.


The following courses are available today:

******************************************************************************

EY-T121E-Y0 Windows 95 Differences Seminar for End Users   0.5 days

EY-T124E-Y0 Windows 95 for New Windows Users   1 day

******************************************************************************

Both of the above are available at the customer site or at our training centers
worldwide. They can also be customized.

They are already being delivered to some Microsoft EMP customers.

For the sake of completeness, as the biggest Microsoft ATEC in the world, we
are, of course, also offering the following Microsoft technical courses:

******************************************************************************

EY-T110E-S0  Migrating Your Computing Environment to Microsoft Windows 95 1 day

EY-T134E-L0  Installing and Configuring Microsoft Windows 95   2 days

EY-S411E-L0  Supporting Microsoft Windows 95   5 days

******************************************************************************



All courses are scheduled now and more details for all of the above 
and dates for the last 2 can be found:

In the latest DLS "Digest"       (Order # EB-K6377-03)

or

http:://www.digital.com/.i/digest/htdocs/html/dls

(or go to the Digital Homepage and select Service,Training and Support, then
 DLS INteractive Catalog)

or

In VTX LEARNING

or

by calling 1-800-332-5656

or your local training center (outside of the USA)

 
Hope this helps...

Andy Sadler
US DLS Marketing Manager (and Windows 95 Training Program Manager)

    The SLT, or Office of the President (OOP), receives their
    infrastructure support from the Global Processing Services Organization
    under Dick Fishburn.
    
    In the case of the OOP, they have nogotiated their services based upon
    the needs of the SLT.  Currently this dedicated Service Delivery Staff
    is managed by Nick Cappello, who reports to Mike Whitney Manager W/W
    Global Processing Services.
    
    If there are any training needs, or any other relating to
    Infrastructure, this is managed by Nick Cappello.  Nick in turn works
    with GPS to coordinate any activities for the OOP.
    
    My suggestion would be to contact Nick Cappello directly if you have
    any further questions.
    
    C. Calcagni
    W/W GPS/GT&NS Engagement Manager
    

    I have received three or four offers of assistance (some from groups I
    didn't even know existed :-)) so I will be following up on them.
    
    Thanks everybody.
    
    Dan

    I want to clarify something that is very important.  After speaking
    with the support organization for our SLT I learned that they have
    *not* yet rolled out Windows 95 to the SLT, but that they are working
    on a plan to do so.
    
    MCS's (Multivendor Customer Services) leadership team apparently is the
    one that has had Windows 95 rolled out to them.
    
    Please take note of this and should this question come up with your
    customers, make the appropriate distinctions. 
    
    Dan

>    I want to clarify something that is very important.  After speaking
>    with the support organization for our SLT I learned that they have
>    *not* yet rolled out Windows 95 to the SLT, but that they are working
>    on a plan to do so.
 
    Indeed, critically important. After all Bill G. has pointed out that
    Windows95 is fully multitasking and as such _much_ more productive
    for all users. Ergo the SLT will become _much_ more productive
    resulting in higher profits, answers in notes files and a general
    festive atmosphere. After all, Bill wouldn't lie on this now would
    he...

RE: .8

	Exchange doesn't have direct gateways to VMSmail. You'd have to
	use UCX or another TCP/IP package to send your mail via SMTP.
	Other than that,  you're correct. I like Exchange. (My group is
	putting Voicemail into it)

							mike