Conference 7.286::digital

    IBM in conjunction with Digital has ported IBM's CICS transaction 
    processing product (Customer Information Control System) to the
    Digital UNIX platform.    
    
    The IBM CICS product has been a big player in the TP realm and has 
    been around for 25 years or so.    IBM is pushing "Open CICS" and has also 
    ported CICS to HP platforms.  
    
    I believe Digital's hope is to replace all of those millon dollar 30/40
    series mainframes with Alpha 2000/ 8000 series for a fraction of the
    cost/low maintenance.  Maybe the IRS deal could be related
    to maybe a port of the CICS TP system?
    
    
    

For more information about IBM's CICS running on Digital UNIX, see the 
conference RDGENG::CICS. CICS for Digital UNIX is sold and supported by 
Digital, available from SSB now. Runs the same COBOL applications that 
CICS/ESA does.

So, are the AlphaServer 8200/8400 systems more powerful than ES/9000?

	Richard.

    Check out the latest from VTX IR:
    
    11-Apr-95  CICS for Digital UNIX      
    11-Apr-95  AlphaServer 8400 Delivers Mainframe Performance for 
               Less Cost
    24-Jan-95  IBM and Digital Agree to Provide CICS on Alpha AXP platform

    I'm the ISSC Account Manager for Digital....ISSC is the SI division of
    IBM, and was recently awarded half of a pilot for the IRS to begin a
    project for electronic filing and refunds for tax returns...until we
    get 'flat tax' and the IRS becomes extinct...anyway, the bank that is
    managing the pilot in Chicago selected a VAX-based software package
    from a Digital ISV called 'Intranet' to handle this project.  ISSC is
    now installing two 7000's running the Intranet software to handle the
    electronic funds transfer side of this pilot.  ISSC also owns the VAX
    installed base in several of our larger accounts, so don't be surprised
    when you hear or read about IBM buying and using Alphas (or VAXes) in
    the future...it's really an 'open world' out here!
    Bob Powell
    

    IBM has been a significant VAX and VMS customer of ours for many
    years.
    
    				Steve

Why? Do they buy them to use (if so what for), or are they just checking out the 
opposition?

PJDM

It's typically the divisions doing contracts for the government - they buy
what's best for the project, and in many cases, that means Digital.  This
is largely due to VMS and the breadth of language products we have there,
especially Ada.

					Steve

    RE: IBM buying VAX-en: ....and before VAX they bought PDP's, judging
    from a call I once got for a PDP-based graphics system in Endicott NY.
    
    Al
    

  They (also) bought PDP-11's disguised as things like semiconductor
  processing equipment and board testers and other OEM applications.
  Nearly everone in the industry did!

                                   Atlant

  Maybe they'll also buy lots of Alphas.

                                   Tom

    Predictably brilliant reply Tom.

    Hey, GBRUCE, give me a break.  I'm on vacation.  And what's to say that
    in 5 years time IBM won't be buying a bunch of Alphas for the very same
    "service Digital's installed base" reason that drives them to buy PDP11s
    and VAX/VMS systems today?

    Aw, KIRKTN::GBRUCE is just cranky because soon he won't be able to wear
    a Digital badge.
    
    
    
    (KIRKTN is in SQF (South Queensferry, Scotland) which has been sold to 
     Motorola.)
    

    S'funny that because in 5� years here @ SQF,I never wore my badge
    anyway.So it's an extremely large boo-sucks to you.
    
    }=()

I also never wear my badge, either at Digital, or Philips before that,
mainly because the bloody things keep falling off.

Chris.

    
    Exactly the opposite reason I never wear my badge -
    
    
    	I'm scared to death somebody will recognize me!!!
    
    
    		the Greyhawk	

I don't have that problem, as my reputation seems to go before me... :/

Chris.

    
    The party is over heer at SQF and I think most folk will be quite
    happy to be wearing the new colours/badge of M|O|T|O|R|O|L|A
    
     SQF Jambo #1

Before you disappear into the depths of Motorola, will you please
explain the relevance of `SQF Jambo #1'?

Chris.

PS can you please fix the rather unwell Motorola system at RAF
   Stanbridge, the thing's giving me a headache...

    re-1
    
    Chris,
    
    	I support a football team called Heart Of Midlothian F.C.
        and one of the nicknames for the club and fans
        are the "Jambo's" (along with others of course) so 
        South Queensferry Jambo (me) #1 !!!!! does that explain anything
        :-) 
    
     SQF Jambo #1

Well they can't be as bad as Bishop's Stortford FC if that's any
consolation!  :)

Chris.

    I wrote my last reply from my sister's house while on vacation in NC;
    my brother-in-law lent me his computer.

    I'm writing this reply from my apartment in MA - I'm reading mail and
    Notes, but am still on vacation for another week.

    Good luck with your transition to Motorola.  I've always thought of them
    as a good company.  My home computer uses one of their microprocessors,
    as do some of the networking products we build over in Littleton.  And
    as someone who likes Macintoshes and Fords, I'm sure I'll be buying some
    more chips from your new employer sometime in the future!

    Shock,horror not even a mention of Alpha,I guess it'll be PowerPc this
    PowerPc that now eh...
    
    [%*)

    
    Ohhh no.....


    Rathole  alert......... woooooooow  wooooooooow  woooooooow



    Quick.... some one call the Rathole Police....!!!!


    Annoyed of Skegness.

    QueensFairies aside (y'all know Ty Herndon? :^]), I think IBM has shown
    uncharacteristic good judgement in buying our equipment to get the job
    done.  Pretty damn smart for a company not well known for its
    forward-thinking.
    
    Now, given that we've got *one* dinosaur's head turned, could someone
    stop by the US Federalist Government and explain the similarities
    between Unisys and a TRS-80?  My last Unisys to Digital conversion
    totally negated the need for the Commanche Peak Power Plant.
    
    								Tex

     << QueensFairies aside (y'all know Ty Herndon? :^]) >>


    Excuse me for asking but what are you Slavering about....??
    
    
    Confused of Skeggness.