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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

3891.0. "Peer review - out of the frying pan.....?" by SCCAT::JONES () Sun May 21 1995 19:11

	For the first time in my long career at DEC, I recently joined a group 
that practises "peer review". Though I was pleasantly surprised by my 
subsequent review, I have come to learn that others are not so fortunate. That 
has lead me to question the whole concept and I would like to throw out a few 
ideas to open up a discussion.
	
1. I have never cared what anyone said or thought about me. I have always said
"I don't go to work to win a popularity contest". It's lucky that I am near 
retirement or I might have to eat my words.

2. I imagine one pretext for peer review is partiality shown by managers to 
their favorites. But peer review is one more example of "don't fix the people,
change the system". The fatal flaw in that very common approach is that "it 
takes people to implement a system". Who is to say that peers will show any 
less partiality? Aren't managers chosen because of their people skills (I am
not being facetious here)? I would rather take my chances with a manager.

3. What about the matter of accountability for an unfavorable review? If a 
manager is solely responsible for a review, he has to be careful not to 
infringe a whole bunch of rules. If a couple of employees complain about their
reviews, he knows he could be passed over for promotion, at the very least. 
But, as far as I know, a peer can make any review he likes with impunity.

4. Do all groups now practise peer review? If not, doesn't this raise a legal 
question? Some reviews are based on a substantially different criterion.
(If it is argued it is not SUBSTANTIALLY different, then we admit peer review 
has no real impact and is just a waste of everybody's time).

5. The manager still has a large part in peer review (how much, I don't know).
There are still plenty of ways he can practise partiality. It seems to me that 
peer review was sold as a benefit to the employee (rather like our new Health 
Plan announcements - when they raise our contributions and tell us they are 
making things better for us). With peer review we now have to please the whole 
group, in addition to our manager. It takes long enough to figure out how to 
treat the never-ending stream of replacement managers without having to psych 
out the rest of the group as well!
	Before peer review, we were only subject to scrutiny from time to time.
Now the surveillance is constant. Have we not been unknowingly duped into yet 
another productivity increase under the guise of fairness? Where did I read
"... a man cannot serve two masters"?

Peter Jones
    
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3891.1A digression...BIRMVX::HILLNIt's OK, it'll be dark by nightfallMon May 22 1995 07:5611
    I heard about a non-Digital sales organisation in which the following
    practices are used.
    
    1  All bonuses are pooled and shared equally among team members.
    
    2  Team members are subject to peer review and if performance remedies
       fail then they are at least taken out of the bonus share and
       probably removed from the team.
    
    3  There is _NO_ downward review by managers of staff, but the managers
       are all subject to both upward review and peer review.
3891.2MU::porterMon May 22 1995 10:2622
re .0

What's your job function?

I'm a software engineer, and certainly I've had some element
of "peer review" in my previous positions (not sure about this
one yet!).  This has taken the form of the manager soliciting
comments from the people I work with, and incorporating the
comments into my review if appropriate.

This seems like a good idea to me, since software engineering
is done in teams.  It helps detect disparity between management's
perception of the worth of Engineer X and the team's perception
of the same.  It also helps detect operational conflicts; if you've
got someone who's good but doesn't get along with anyone, then
you need to know about it.

If management's doing their job right, they don't simply
concatenate these comments and call it a review -- they
use the comments as information to form a more complete 
view of the employee.
 
3891.3What's my job got do with it?SCCAT::JONESMon May 22 1995 17:0727
	In answer to .2, I work for the MCS Massachusetts SNA Support Center,
where the main tasks are software installations and fielding customer hotline 
calls. I work remotely from home in California. My work is largely invisible to 
the naked eye.
	Whether or not peer review suits a particular group is not the point.
If we really wish to be fair, either everyone must use peer review or no-one. 
Has "do the right thing" been replaced with "do your own thing"?
	The author of .2 really confirms one of my points. "If management's
doing its job right", we wouldn't need such an artifice as peer review. We 
always had informal peer review, if it only consisted of the manager asking his 
secretary to tap into the grapevine. Over the last ten or fifteen years 
management has increasingly tried to shift tasks to others. There are less than 
twenty in our group and it shouldn't be too difficult to take time off meetings 
to find out what one's subordinates are doing. I was very impressed with a
recent broadcast on PBS about the massive Indian Railroad system, where the
head honcho holds daily briefings about every known problem and then goes out 
on site to various troublespots and talks to the ordinary working man.
	As for mention of "someone who's good but doesn't get along with 
anyone" - this opens a whole can of worms. What does it matter if a person 
doesn't fit in, as long as the person's work is "good"? It seems to me that
to consider such a factor in a review is very hazardous and prone to abuse.
It suggests all sorts of subjective and unmeasurable criteria. As long as 
no-one's work is affected, it is not the manager's concern. Since when was 
Digital a social club?

Peter Jones
    
3891.4NETCAD::THAYERMon May 22 1995 18:1535
	Interesting question. I too have been subject to peer review, 
	and have mixed thoughts on the matter.

	My first manager had us IC's write a draft of our own
	review, and he usually rubber stamped them. Naturally
	I got good reviews ;^) But his review writing led to his
	downfall. For personal/political reasons he jerked one 
	fellow around mightly. As word leaked out there was
	rebellion in the ranks. Mr. Manager was demoted, and took
	his leave when the early retirement package was offered.
	A very messy, demoralizing situation for all involved.

	The new manager instituted a very disciplined review process
	which included anonymous peer review. My first time around
	I got mostly good comments from my co-workers except for one 
	rather strong negative. I tried to take it all as constructive. 
	The new manager and I worked out a plan to modify my offending 
	ways, and I ernestly stuck to the plan, but the next year the 
	same thing happened. By the third time around I shrugged it off
	and chalked it up to experience. You can't please everyone.

	Altogether I would say peer review has a positive role (and
	client review even more so). It always helps me to have a
	balanced perspective from many voices, especially about
	something with as much emotional weight as one's work performance. 
	However as long as the input is anonymous, it cannot be rebutted.
	Even attempting to rebutt can put one in bad light by
	making one appear to be unresponsive to criticism.
	Furthermore personal conflict issues cannot be directly 
	addressed. So the peer review input needs to be carefully 
	placed into the proper context by the manager.


				John
3891.5Variation on a theme ?FOUNDR::DODIERSingle Income, Clan'o KidsMon May 22 1995 18:5211
       	I started to write a response but then realized I wasn't sure
    how the "peer review" in the base note was implemented. For the last 
    10 years or so, I've sort of written my own review and others that I've 
    worked with have been solicited for input.

    	The end result was usually a mixture of input from everyone with
    the majority of it coming from me. How is this different from what
    the base noter goes through ? Does everyone get in a room and hash it
    out ?

    	Ray
3891.6MU::porterMon May 22 1995 19:0943
>        As for mention of "someone who's good but doesn't get along with 
> anyone" - this opens a whole can of worms. What does it matter if a person 
> doesn't fit in, as long as the person's work is "good"? It seems to me that
> to consider such a factor in a review is very hazardous and prone to abuse.

What I meant is, I might be utterly brilliant and capable of doing 17
impossible things all before lunch time.  However, this doesn't do
anyone much good if I refuse to tell my teammates my ideas and am
actually downright rude to anyone who suggests a little more
co-operation.   

Now, you can say then obviously I am not doing my job. I agree. However,
my point was that the peer review data might reveal the manner in which I am
failing to do my job, and thus we can come up with a development plan
to fix things.  

>									We
> always had informal peer review, if it only consisted of the manager asking his 
> secretary to tap into the grapevine. Over the last ten or fifteen years 

Dunno about what goes on in your group, but in my last group it wasn't
a whole lot more formal than this.   The manager sends out a mail message
which pretty much said "care to say anything for X's review?".  I don't
really see that that can be bad, but listening to what the grapevine
says about X is good.   In fact, this way people have to take responsibility
for what they say about X, which should encourage a more balanced reporting
of strengths and weaknesses.   

> It suggests all sorts of subjective and unmeasurable criteria. As long as 
> no-one's work is affected, it is not the manager's concern. Since when was 
> Digital a social club?

DEC isn't a social club, but it is a collaborative enterprise.  I'm only talking
about those factors which DO affect work.

By the way, the reason I asked about your job was because I think it affects
the process.  As I think I said, I'm a software engineer.  Software gets
designed in teams, and therefore the ability to work in teams is
important - hence feedback on how well you're working is important.
Maybe it's less so for your job; sounds like you don't have a whole lot
of day-to-day contact with your peers.  And that's why one-rule-for-everyone
is not appropriate.

3891.7Couldn't get peer inputAWECIM::MCMAHONLiving in the owe-zoneMon May 22 1995 19:326
    Gee, I tried to get peer input in my review but the only input that was
    used was management's. I asked for peer input from both my coworkers
    and (internal) customers and included that in my addendum. My own input
    to my review was also completely dismissed.
    
    It was an 'interesting' review.
3891.8HDLITE::SCHAFERMark Schafer, Alpha Developer's supportTue May 23 1995 11:295
    so, what's the role of the manager in peer reviews?  Does the manager
    still decide the rating and salary increase, or is that somehow done by
    your peers?  Oh gee, what if we had 'peer salary planning'?
    
    Mark
3891.9MU::porterTue May 23 1995 11:5311
In my model, and experience:

-- Management does the review and has responsibility for it.

-- The "peers" get a chance to provide their opinions to
   management.  They don't write the review and they don't
   see the review.

Perhaps this is a weaker version of "peer review" than
is practised in the basenoter's case.

3891.10VMSVTP::S_WATTUMHell BentTue May 23 1995 12:4311
>Perhaps this is a weaker version of "peer review" than

Yep;  Back when I worked at the CSC, I was on a team where:

Peers provided input to me (manager included).  I wrote my review based on peer
input.  Manager, myself, and 2-3 peers gathered (the team varied in size,
usually around 30 people), looked over input from peers, and my write-up;
discussed.  If everyone agreed that my write-up reflected input, rating was
assigned based on input and committee signed review.

--Scott
3891.11TINCUP::KOLBEWicked Wench of the WebWed May 24 1995 17:586
re:-1 Yep, that's the way our engineering team did it too (when we last had
reviews a couple of bungee managers ago). We didn't even have our manager but
rather a facilitator whose job was to keep things moving and professional. I
was a bit incomfortable in these but felt they were fair. I'm not sure what
happens now. We have a local host manager who we rarely talk to and a remote
manager we see about 3 or 4 times a year. liesl
3891.12CSC32::M_EVANSproud counter-culture McGovernikFri Jun 30 1995 16:3620
    Peer reviewhas worked for the teams I have been on with a few caveats:  
    
    1.  Review the person's work, not their politics, religion, etc.  Since
    this fits right in with valuing differences it hasn't been a problem.  
    
    2.  One thing we put into place on one team was negative issues need to
    have been addressed between you and your peer, or they could not be
    included in the PA.  
    
    3.  No anonymous peer reviewing.  This has the potential of creating
    the feeling that you have upwards of 40 enemies if the information is
    anonymous and unfavorable.  
    
    4.  Team input on putting together the peer review rules.  This is
    critical to avoid the same concerns you have. 
    
    Me?  I like(ed) it but we had all the caveats in ours addressed.  One
    iwll hope it will continue.
    
    meg