Conference 7.286::digital

    
    I just tried to copy this and received "insufficient privilege"
    message.  Have the protections been removed from this file?
    
    	- Kate Jurow
    

    
    I had no problems I put it in the decnet account on LANDO::
    try it from there.
    
    DCINPROF.PS;13
    
       bob c

Can you tell us how many pages are in the document? I don't like to tie up 
our printer during the day for long documents.

Thanx much

Ed

    It's about 100-110 pages long. Prints just about at speed on one of our
    PrintServer 32 printers.

    -1
    
    The book contains 110 pages and there are about 15 illustrations.
    
    Sean 

    In response to many questions about copy problems, there appears
    to be a major system problem at the moment.  I, too, am unable to
    connect to NRSTA2, but I can copy the book from a different cluster.
    It does appear that many others have been able to get the book, too.
    I will monitor the problem for you and try to find a solution.  I 
    will also find several homes for this guide and post them in this note.
    Here is the first:
    
    MRED::SWDOC5:[FILE_TRANSFER]DCINPROF.PS
    LEZAH:: "         "            "
    
    This location is set up with world read priveleges.
    
    In response to the question about permission to repost, yes, you have
    my permission to forward or repost this information in other notes files.
    
    Please consider one simple fact.  Information on the internet changes
    constantly.  As a result, pointers and some examples in the guide may
    change, too.  Cheryl and I got used to this fact while writing the
    book.
                                               
    Thank you for all your positive comments.
    
    We do hope this guide helps you perform your job better, which will
    untimately make Digital a stronger company.
    
    
    Regards,
    
    Cheryl and Sean   
    
                                    

    In case you didn't get this, and wanted to know what we (Digital) are
    doing to uplift our internet face, there's a vote happening on 
    our new look. 
    check out 
    
    HTTP://www-iu.mro.dec.com/public/voting/intro.html
    
    
    Let's really do ourselves some justice and create the most awesome
    homepage in internet history!  Hey maybe when you click on Digital in
    the future, the multimedia systems can hear that funky rock and roll
    music from our commercials?   Just a thought.
    
    chet

    
    and this is what I got ::
    
    ERROR
    
    Requested document (URL
    HTTP://www-iu.mro.dec.com/public/voting/intro.html)
    could not be accessed.
    
    The information server either is not accessible or is refusing to serve
    the document to
    you.
    

    re: .8
    
    "HTTP" should read "http", then it will work.
    
    	Steve

    
    ref . 7
    
       I was just using what was given...
    
    bc
    

Here are the current locations to use for copying the Internet Guide:

NRSTA1::SCRATCH:[IDF_PUBLIC]DCINPROF.PS

GEMVAX::CUP$FILE_TRANSFER:DCINPROF.PS

Since its release on Firday, I made several small changes in the Mail chapter.

I want to thank Wayne Vigeant, of the  Enterprise Services Center,
Palo Alto Gateway Operations, for the following feedback.

Errata:

1)Page 2-3 Under the "VAXmail" header near the bottom shows the
ALL-IN-1 address used to send you mail as "[email protected]"
That is wrong. It should be "[email protected]" -use the site
code and not the node name.

2) Table 2-1 on page 2-4 is wrong. You must have pulled that from an
old version of "gateway.doc".  I am concerned over this because DECWRL
is NOT a mail gateway any longer. I have worked extremely hard over the
last year to convince people not to use it and I would appreciate it if
you pulled it out of the table ASAP. You also mention DECWRL on page 2-5
as an alternative to VBORMC for European users. This is also incorrect.

    "Don't use DECWRL."  Okay, I have read that message before.  What I am
    missing is the table of RMC's that I should use.  Why did you delete
    the one from GATEWAY.DOC that was of the form:
    

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    See UPSAR::GATEWAYS note 1988.
    
    		Steve

Please use NRSTAR::IDF_PUBLIC:DCINPROF.PS to pull the guide.
NRSTAR is the cluster alias for the NRSTA1/NRSTA2 cluster.

    
    QUESTION,
    
        When I get the file what do I do with it. Is it a printer file or
    what?.
    
     Please excuse my ingnorance but I have never used a .PS file and have
    know idea what they are used for..
    
                                    Colin

      You print it on a postscript printer, eg LPS20. Don't try to print it
    on a non-postscript printer, you'll just get a load of garbage (the
    same as you see on screen if you try to 'edit' the file), and it
    uses a lot of paper. The assumption that _everyone_ has access to a
    postscript printer is one of the problems with a number of DEC internal
    systems; it is not valid. Ask your systems manager which printer you
    should queue the job to; for me, the VMS command was 'PRINT/QUEUE=PS_SRCP1
    DCINPROF.PS', the printer being PS_SRCP1. You need to know what your .PS
    printer is called, assuming that you have one. 
      It is possible to read .PS documents from VMS somehow, but I can't
    remember offhand how.
    
    Ken (who did direct it to the wrong printer at first, and managed to stop
    the job after about 60 pages! 8*))
                                                       

    
    	You need "Display PostScript" in order to view the file on a
    Windows Terminal.
    
    	I don't know if this is available under your operating system
    (OpenVMS, UNIX etc.), but I do know that it is not available with a
    VXT 2000 or currently with a Multia MultiClient Desktop.
    
    	However, this functionality (Display Postscript) WILL be available
    on the Multia in the next revision of the Multia Base software (V3.0)
    due out in the February/March timeframe - along with a LOT more new
    functionality.
    
    	Alternatively, DECprint Utility (UPI =  VZP) will enable you to
    print PostScript files on a Sixel Printer (LA70/75/75+/210/310/324/424
    to name but a few).
    
     				Malcolm.

From OpenVMS, you can view PostScript files with the CDA Viewer, invoked with
the VIEW command.  Specifically, a command like

	VIEW /INTERFACE=DECWINDOWS file.ps /FORMAT=PS

will work.  DECwindows Mail also displays PostScript mail.

And if your system has DECprint Supervisor installed, you don't have to worry if
the file you are about to print is PostScript or text, as it will sense the data
type and do the right thing.

Paul

    Don't you need some kind of postscript extension for that?
    
    Laurie.

RE: .19

	On VMS systems, DECwindows has the ability to view postscript
	files built in.

							mike

    
    I have tried to copy this file from all the nodes given in this
    note, but always get "unknown node" or "improper file specification".
    
    I have used this procedure before so I know it works.  What Gives?
    
    Regards, Jim Snider
    

    
    Sorry for the false alarm.
    
    My local node cant find the remote node.  But my district node could.
    
    Jim Snider
    
              

RE:           <<< Note 3547.20 by AXEL::FOLEY "Rebel without a Clue" >>>

�	On VMS systems, DECwindows has the ability to view postscript
�	files built in.

    Mike,
    
    I tried the incantation in .18 and got the following message:
    
    Server does not have Postscript Extension.
    
    Cheers, Laurie.

    re: .-1
    
    If you're running DECwindows, I don't know why it wouldn't work unless
    DECwindows was not completely installed or something, However, there
    are other X servers that do not have the display PostScript extensions
    (many X terminals and MS Windows X servers, for example). If you have
    such a server, you can instead use Ghostscript and Ghostview from the
    Free Software Foundation (the Gnu people). It's available on many
    platforms, including various UNIXes, VMS, and Windows. It runs on the X
    client side (the one that's not the display host).
    
    -Tom

	RE: .23

	What are you displaying on? If it's a PC, then you are out of
	luck. It would work if it was a VMS workstation.

							mike

    I'm running on an VXT terminal hanging off of a VMS system.
    
    Cheers, Laurie.

    
    ref .25
    
       If it is a PC why are they out of luck
    
    bc
    

    Any chance of a PDF version? Let's us Webbies look at it
    without the hassles postcript...
    
    

    VXT does NOT have Display Postscript.
    
    - Vikas

    Any chance of a Bog Standard text file for those of us using a VT220
    off of a modem?
    
    rww

Hi,

First let me say that I am encouraged by all the positive feedback.

I would like to respond to those of you who have requested the guide
in so many different formats.  Before I could respond to your requests,
I would need additional funding for reformatting, conversion, and many
other tasks that are required to produce this type of guide.

Don't dispair, however, I am collecting your feedback and plan to compile
a report that details all requests.  The report will be presented to the
funder for further analysis, which will ultimately decide the book's fate.

For the moment, the best place from which to copy the guide appears to be:

              GEMVAX::CUP$FILE_TRANSFER:DCINPROF.PS

Please continue to provide feedback, it makes a difference.  I would like
to know if the book helps with your job.

Sean Ford
Documentation Project Leader
WEB Services Group, MRO3 

                         <<< Note 3547.29 by HELIX::SONTAKKE >>>
    
        VXT does NOT have Display Postscript.
    
        - Vikas
     
    	Quite so, but Multia will have in V3.0 of the Multia Base software
    due about March.
    
    				Malcolm.

    For those of us who don't have access to a postscript printer, don't
    have the time to print out a 110 page manual and irritate everyone in
    the office, or don't have a clue to copy a vax file across the network,
    can I make a suggestion ???
    Just tell us how to get a copy of the book.  Where do I order it, or
    how can I get mailed to my office a complete copy ?
    Thanks much.
    

    re: .34 
    
    > Just tell us how to get a copy of the book.  Where do I order it, or
    > how can I get mailed to my office a complete copy ?
    
    We will put the Guide into the Integrated Repository, to make it easier
    to get. We looked into putting it in the LOS system, but we do not have
    the budget to pay for that, so we can't do it.
    
    We had the same distribution problem with a handout we put together for
    the Overview of the World Wide Web seminar we do. Since we have no
    administrative help we had engineers taking care of getting copies
    made, and a software engineering manager (me) responsible for shipping
    them out to folks who sent in requests for copies. We considered doing
    the same for the Guide (which was developed by, and funded through, our
    group), but we're worried that we will be swamped with requests.
    
    The new Digital. Fund locally, act locally.
    
    /Tim

    And for those of you who _do_ have Web access and don't want
    the hassles of postscript, I suggest you take a look at the
    PDF (Portable Document Version) which I have given a
    resting place at:
    
    http://apdncc.apd.dec.com/lnx/pdf/inter.pdf
    
    You can pick up the PDF browser for Mac/Motif/Windows at
    http://www.adobe.com.
    
    Recommended.
    
    re roelof
                       

    Thank you to those who put the guidebook together and posted it on the
    net!!!!!! It will fulfill one of my Christmas  wishes for this year.
    
    

    re: .36
    
    >>You can pick up the PDF browser for Mac/Motif/Windows at
    >>http://www.adobe.com
    
    Actually, they only have MS Windows, Mac, DOS, SunOS 4.1.3, and Solaris
    2.3. I can't find any reference to Motif, or a version that works with
    OSF/1.
    
    /jim
     

Please forward all future responses, requests, and general concerns
about the Internet Guide to one of the following locations:

idu001::webman

[email protected]

Regards,

Sean Ford

Availability of this document has just been announced on Livewire.  We have
copied it to a new directory, with a new name: 

	NRSTAR::WSG_PUBLIC:INT_GUIDE.PS 

but it is still the same document that is referred to in the base note. 

Linda Hench

    This document is also available via:
    
    	1. anonymous ftp at idu001. There is a compressed version of the
    	   file there (internet.ps.Z).
    
    	2. a Web browser, at http://www-iu.mro.dec.com/public/internet.ps
    
    /Tim