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3516.1 | | MU::PORTER | First character in personal name must be alphabetic | Wed Nov 16 1994 09:32 | 8 |
| Well, my group's out there with a sort of proof-of-concept demo
of Windows NT Clusters, and it's apparently going down very
well indeed. A few companies are working on NT products with
the word "cluster" in the name, but it looks like DEC is
doing well in the race. (I'm wording this cautiously since
it doesn't mean a damn thing until we get the actual product
implemented and shipping - but we were pleased!).
|
3516.2 | | HANNAH::KOVNER | Everything you know is wrong! | Wed Nov 16 1994 10:54 | 4 |
| I've heard that the Multia "test drive" (in which customers get to use the
Multia to solve a murder mystery) has long lines of people waiting to get in.
I'm sure we'll hear more when the people out there get back.
|
3516.3 | | CALDEC::RAH | my other car is a Zamboni | Wed Nov 16 1994 11:45 | 2 |
|
Something is up, as the stock price is now 35 and climbing..
|
3516.4 | Great Show for Digital | DECWET::BERKUN | | Wed Nov 16 1994 12:27 | 13 |
| Windows NT Workstation won best Software (I forget details, but
a very important award).
Our booth is great, the interest is excellent, the new notebooks
are hot hot hot. Altogether a bery positive event. We had
a well attended press breifing, and a good message from Pesatori
at an executive breakfast this morning. We host a reception tonight.
I'm exhausted, so it must be a good show.
Heck, look at the stock price!
ken b., live from Las Vegas
|
3516.5 | DVN from Comdex | ASABET::FRYE | | Wed Nov 16 1994 12:28 | 20 |
| 'Eye Opener '95' to be aired on DVN Nov. 17
A taped broadcast of the Nov. 16 COMDEX breakfast meeting, "Eye
Opener '95," will be aired on Thursday, Nov. 17 from 2-3 p.m. Eastern
Time. The breakfast meeting is co-sponsored by the trade publications
"VAR Business" and "Computer Reseller News," and Digital.
Digital's Multia MultiClient Desktop, which was announced last
Monday, will be introduced to an expected audience of some 1,200 VARs
and resellers representing more than 500 companies.
Multia MultiClient Desktop is Digital's revolutionary combination
of its Alpha technology with Microsoft Windows NT and a highly
optimized X11.R6 server. Analysts are already praising the product.
Featured speakers at "Eye Opener '95" include Kurtis Franklin,
"VAR Business;" Michael Goulde, Patty Seybold Group; Brian Fitzgerald,
vice president, Video Products, Digital; and Patrick Sullivan, vice
president, Components and Peripherals Merchandising Group, Digital.
For a complete listing of DVN sites, choose #8 on LIVE WIRE's
main menu page.
|
3516.6 | NPR Business Report said this is the reason | SKIBUM::GASSMAN | | Wed Nov 16 1994 12:32 | 16 |
| Digital has been awarded a five-year contract to manage the
worldwide client/server infrastructure for The Microsoft Network.
The contract includes the management of the wide-area backbone
network, the data center, and the help desk function for the
environment that will support Microsoft's products and services.
Digital won the contract after a capabilities evaluation by
Microsoft of other leading outsourcing firms.
Under the terms of the outsourcing agreement, Digital will
manage
and operate a site consisting of more than 200 multivendor servers.
The
primary infrastructure operations will be set up in the Seattle
area.
<from VTX LIVEWIRE - GLOBAL NEWS>
|
3516.7 | That's cool ... however. | NQOPS2::APRIL | Xtra Lame Triple Owner | Wed Nov 16 1994 13:31 | 23 |
|
Re. -1 OMS contract
I received a memo about this on Monday. I know some of the members
of the Implementation team that OMS has sent out to Seattle to work
on this. This will fill a *HUGE* hole in Microsoft's ability to
service the TOTAL Business systems infrastucture. They are drawing
heavily from the same people and processes put in place to service
the Digital Business Systems infrastructure (despite all the complaints
we hear in this notes file about CNS' ability to do the job ... the
fact is we do a damn good job ... the problem is that we don't
internalize this fact well. That coupled with misconceptions about what
EXACTLY we are chartered to service. NO we don't own nor control IM&T).
The *ONLY* heads-up I see on the announced deal is that it is for five
years. Typically, it takes quite a bit or investment in traning,
equipment and personnel to set up this level of service and you reap
the big bucks after you've incurred these costs. In other words, our
profits would come out of years 3,4,5 (and hopefully beyond). I would
have liked to have seen a longer contract but ... maybe there's some
other issue being worked.
Chuck
|
3516.8 | | MBALDY::LANGSTON | our middle name is 'Equipment' | Wed Nov 16 1994 15:03 | 10 |
| re: long lines at our demo...
I heard that COMDEX is expecting up to 200,000 people. I'd guess there'll be
long lines at *everything*, except the gaming tables. The folks in Las Vegas
figured out a couple years ago that computer nerds and geeks don't gamble and
are willing to pay the higher rates than Vegas's hotels usually charge. Since
then, they raised their usual stay_in_the_hotel_for_a_coupla_bucks_a_night_just
_make_sure_you_drop_your_last_quarter_in_a_slot_machine_on_the_way_out rates.
Bruce
|
3516.9 | Some brief impressions | MROA::WILKES | | Thu Nov 17 1994 10:21 | 16 |
| re: .8
I was in Las Vegas over the weekend and attended COMDEX on Monday.
Hotel prices are triple the normal rate.
Digital had two exhibit areaa at the Las Vegas Convention center. The
main Digital exhibit area was pretty close to the Microsoft area.
Microsoft was drawing by far the biggest crowds of any exhibit so it
was good to be located near them.
The Digital name was prominently displayed in signage above the
exterior doors entering the convention center.
Digital had a "Major League Baseball Theme" in its main exhibit area.
Audience were herded into a ballpark and asked a whole series of
qualifying questions to which prospects responded using handheld
terminals.
|
3516.10 | | MU::PORTER | First character in personal name must be alphabetic | Thu Nov 17 1994 10:29 | 8 |
| re .1
Headline from Byte Magazine Press Release:
Clusters for Windows NT Named Most Significant Technology
So, it looks like we've wowed then with our Comdex demo.
Now we have to deliver the goods, *and* make money at it.
|
3516.11 | real reason for stock jump... | ASDG::CORLISS | I KNOW we can...I KNOW we can...I KNOW we can... | Thu Nov 17 1994 10:44 | 6 |
| re .3,.6
Stock price jump attributed to Goldman Sachs upgrading Digital to its
recomended list on 11/16.
DC - one happy employee on the ESPP
|
3516.12 | Multia - Byte Best System of the Show! | RT128::BATES | Second Place: The First Loser | Thu Nov 17 1994 11:29 | 28 |
|
Digital has a tremndus presence at Comdex. With lots of signage as
you enter the convention center, a laser show just inside in the main
hall and three humongous booths (alpha, PC and the Components
Superstore). There are about 200,000 people in attendance and the
interest in the Digital booths is tremendous. Lots of customers coming
by and saying Glad to see Digital is back. The competition is clearing
taking notice as well.
In addition to the clusters technology award, Digital's Multia
MultiClient Desktop device won the Byte Magazine Best System of the
Show award.
At a Multia VAR breakfast yesterday at the Tropicana Hotel where about
100 VARs were expected to attend, the response was overwhelming with
over 600 VARs in attendance! The VAR breakfast was videotaped and will
be shown on a customer DVN today.
A tremendous amount of excitement has also been generated by the new
Digital HiNote laptop PC;s.
Overall the mood of most Digit's here is _very_ upbeat. To many it
feels like we've turned the corner.
-Joe
|
3516.13 | But we still have a translation problem | POBOX::CORSON | Higher, and a bit more to the right | Thu Nov 17 1994 12:37 | 8 |
|
Of course our current policy is to tier VARs to our distributors
who will sell them whatever they need, regardless of source. Makes
sense to me - NOT!
the Greyhawk_who_is_getting_a_little_peeved_at_Digitals_
inability_to_be_marketplace_coherent
|
3516.14 | unintended consequences | MR3MI1::MREICH | | Fri Nov 18 1994 13:23 | 14 |
|
RE: .13
It seems Digital decided that accepting orders from all these VARs
is too expensive/troublesome and our costs could be reduced by sending
them to Master VARs.
When/if the Master VAR sells them Compac, HP, Conner, etc... our
prime objective - reduce costs (thru fewer orders) will be
accomplished?
Beware of what you want, for you will get it.
|
3516.15 | Confused About Sales Model. | SWAM2::WANTJE_RA | | Fri Nov 18 1994 13:46 | 10 |
| re: .13 & .14
Please help end my confusion over the method Digital is using to sell.
Can you define the different re-sellers (VARs, distributors, whatever
they are called) as Digital interacts with them. It appears that there
is a pecking order here and I do not understand it. I was under the
impression there there are 2 types of accounts 1) Resleers, 2) Direct
sales.
rww
|
3516.16 | Here they are from the guy that signs 'em up | POBOX::CORSON | Higher, and a bit more to the right | Fri Nov 18 1994 16:23 | 43 |
|
Happy to -
Digital has six contractual relationships with its business
partners. And then several variations within each category, so I'll
try to keep it reasonably simple.
Developers - organizations which do not sell hardware, however
we need them for obvious reasons.
VAR - Value-added resellers, they sell hardware, software (usually
their own applications, but not always), and services to the
end-user.
TOEM - Technical OEMs. They embed our products into theirs, and you
never know it's there.
Distributors - Pioneer, Hamilton-Avnet. They are THE fulfillment
organizations for us (something I think we should be doing
ourselves).
Master Resellers - TechData, Merisel, microAge, etc. The PCs are
us folks. They sell mostly to smaller PC-centric resellers.
Systems Integrators - Arthur Andersen Consulting, EDS, Perot
Systems. They sometimes have software they own, but mostly just
reselling our stuff to our original customer in the first place.
That is it. The problem is not the types, it is what they actually
bring to the table that INCREASES our marketshare. VARs, and
TOEMs, actually bring us new customers. Distributors and SI normally
work with Digital end-user reps and just take an order. They do very
little actual selling (as in buy Digital instead of H-P). Developers
write software; if you don't get these guys, you're dead. Master
Resellers are a mixed bag and are mostly margin focused (theirs, not
yours); they also sell mainly what they have in stock today.
Thems the models. I could do this all day, pluses and minuses. But
on fact will never go away. Unless we support them, they don't sell
Digital. Period. End of story.
|
3516.17 | | REGENT::POWERS | | Mon Nov 21 1994 09:19 | 17 |
| The shorter answer:
There are three general methods of selling:
1) Direct - sell to the people who will use it
2) Indirect - sell to the people who will sell it to the people
who will use it (we sell wholesale to retailers)
3) Two-tiered - sell to the people who will sell it to the people who
sell it to the people who use it (we sell to master distributors
who will sell to local distributors who sell to users)
We are getting out of method 1, and choosing between 2 and 3 to maximize
our volume per transaction. That is, we will prefer to use 3 unless
specific instances (retail chain stores, for example) demonstrate
advantages for 2.
- tom]
|
3516.18 | | AXEL::FOLEY | Rebel without a Clue | Mon Nov 21 1994 13:29 | 16 |
|
In my booth (our group is doing an Alpha/OSF-based Internet
Server) it was mobbed almost all week. I totally lost my voice
by Friday. Our leads stack up really thick! We had a guy from
Avnet in our booth. He got a ton of leads also.
We also had a person from Netscape Communications (formerly Mosaic
Communications, formerly the developers of NCSA Mosiac, now
Netscape) in our booth all week. Wednesday afternoon Marc
Andreesen (If you know Mosaic, you know of Marc) was in our booth.
Like I said, lots of leads, no voice, TONS of interest!
mike
Exhausted but happy!
|
3516.19 | Thank You, But... | SWAM2::WANTJE_RA | | Mon Nov 21 1994 13:38 | 15 |
| Thank you for -1 & -2. A bit more complicated than I though. Or
should I say convoluted? ;}
Why focus on #3 in -1, i.e. sell to peole who sell to people who sell
to people who use it? (Master Distributors?? - Did I get that right?)
I am just an ignorate techie type, but it seem there is an extra level
of no-value add margin that must be taken into account with that model.
A mixture of 1 & 2 (and developers) seems to produce the lowest cost
to customer with the best margin to Digital. Unless I missed
something.
rww
|
3516.20 | What now? | NEWVAX::MURRAY | and the band plays on... | Mon Nov 21 1994 13:58 | 7 |
|
re .18
GREAT! Now who is supposed to follow up those leads?
This is the problem I've observed in the past.
Mike M.
|
3516.21 | Not a mystery to us, however... | POBOX::CORSON | Higher, and a bit more to the right | Mon Nov 21 1994 15:14 | 8 |
|
rww-
You're correct. Good thinking there. Amazing how the obvious kind
of just jumps out at you. Now how do we get our senior middle managers
and above to make the same transformation?
the Greyhawk
|
3516.22 | Lower volume/costs | STOWOA::ODIAZ | Octavio, MCS/SPS | Mon Nov 21 1994 16:26 | 9 |
|
I believe that we use master resellers because they own the
relationships, also, their sales costs are lower, so they don't have
any issue supporting VARs that only purchase a couple of systems a
year. Traditionally Digital doesn't do business directly with any
VAR that doesn't buy a pre-agreed minimum per year. I don't know if
this has changed.
OLD
|
3516.23 | | AXEL::FOLEY | Rebel without a Clue | Mon Nov 21 1994 16:38 | 7 |
| RE: .20
If we have to do that ourselves, we will. FWIW, we photocopied the
leads before handing them over to the lead trackers. We can't
afford to let them go into nothingness.
mike
|
3516.24 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Mon Nov 21 1994 17:09 | 5 |
| Re: .23
Ah, you're learning!
Steve
|
3516.25 | (or maybe bloodhounds don't bay) | ANGST::BECK | Paul Beck | Mon Nov 21 1994 17:42 | 8 |
| > If we have to do that ourselves, we will. FWIW, we photocopied the
> leads before handing them over to the lead trackers. We can't
> afford to let them go into nothingness.
Why do I get this picture of a set of prison guards, with bloodhouds
tugging at the leash, in a misty swamp in the dead of night; the
guards let the dogs sniff at this pile of photocopies, and off they
go, baying in the night...
|
3516.26 | | GEMGRP::gemnt3.zko.dec.com::Winalski | Careful with that AXP, Eugene | Mon Nov 21 1994 19:33 | 6 |
| RE: .25
The ususual thing, my dear Watson, was that the dogs DIDN'T bark in
the night.
--PSW
|
3516.27 | who else would you expect to find? | RANGER::COBB | telePATHWORKS - working without a net | Mon Nov 21 1994 19:47 | 5 |
| "...in a misty swamp in the dead of night..."
I see you've actually hung around with Mike...
Danny
|
3516.28 | Quote the canon correctly, please | PHDVAX::LUSK | Ron Lusk--[org-name of the week here] | Mon Nov 21 1994 22:07 | 6 |
| re .26
"Is there any point to which you would wish to draw my attention?"
"To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time."
"The dog did nothing in the night-time."
"That was the curious incident," remarked Sherlock Holmes.
|
3516.29 | | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Tue Nov 22 1994 02:39 | 5 |
| FWIW, there was a report from COMDEX on French national television
last night. There was a fair amount about technology, showing various
types of equipment, but the only company names I could distinguish were
Microsoft, Compaq and IBM. Of course Compaq and IBM (and HP) run
television adverts, whereas I have never seen a DEC one.
|
3516.30 | Cool. | PYRO::RON | Ron S. van Zuylen | Tue Nov 22 1994 03:57 | 14 |
| I survived four days of COMDEX and was very impressed with what we did
in the two Digital areas. This was the best I've ever seen Digital do
at a trade show.
I've had various COMDEX victims actually mention (without coaxing) that
Digital looked great.
To all involved, congratulations!
--Ron
I also experienced one of the worst presentations at any show: IBM's OS/2
Warp. Absolutely dreadful. It was painfully slow and completely
throw-away. (And this is coming from a person that likes OS/2 Warp.)
|
3516.31 | Comdex Awards | FAILTE::HUNKY::trowsdalec | | Tue Nov 22 1994 06:06 | 8 |
| Get hold of Alpha Fast Facts in Readers Choice on VTX "Digital takes Top
Honours at Comdex" dated 21.11.94.
This is great news. Multia is a superb product and (virtually) NO
COMPETITION, and our clustering technology sweeps clean again.
Regards
Caroline
|
3516.32 | | REGENT::POWERS | | Tue Nov 22 1994 08:41 | 19 |
| re: .19 (.17, .16)
> Why focus on #3 in -1, i.e. sell to peole who sell to people who sell
> to people who use it? (Master Distributors?? - Did I get that right?)
>
> I am just an ignorate techie type, but it seem there is an extra level
> of no-value add margin that must be taken into account with that model.
There is a traditional element of added value called "breaking bulk,"
buying by the ton to sell by the pound, so to speak.
This can be cascaded.
Master resellers buy by the truckload to sell by the pallet load
to distributors who will sell by the unit.
Their added value, as Greyhawk described it in .16, is having the
relationships, knowing who will buy pallet loads.
We will sell directly (method 2) to major retailers who are, in essence,
their own master distributors (to their separate (super)stores).
- tom]
|
3516.33 | | AXEL::FOLEY | Rebel without a Clue | Tue Nov 22 1994 14:48 | 9 |
| RE: .24
Yup... We really want our product to sell..
RE: .27
You would know, now wouldn't you Danny? :-)
mike
|
3516.34 | | BIGUN::chmeee::Mayne | Break Like The Wind | Wed Nov 23 1994 00:29 | 5 |
| So has anybody donated a well configured AlphaStation running Windows NT to
Jerry Pournelle so he can rave about it in Byte? (I think JP is also one of the
judges for the "Best of" awards.)
PJDM
|
3516.35 | Most attendees don't gamble... | ZPOVC::DONKING | | Wed Nov 23 1994 00:57 | 4 |
| Most COMDEX attendees don't gamble while there. I ran into one that did
- a former Digital sales person from the west coast. Seems as if he won
172K playing caribbean stud poker at Bally's. They dealt him a royal
flush!
|
3516.36 | MULTIA Info? | NEWVAX::MURRAY | HELL! its hot right now. | Thu Dec 15 1994 19:40 | 21 |
| Hi,
I thought I saw a thread of notes on Multia, but dir/tit found nada.
Anyway, I just saw Client/Server Today and reviews of the AlphaStations
performance were done, but what sticks out is that:
Multia - 166mhz, 24MB RAM, ethernet, SCSI-2, 340MB disk,
PCI, 2 PCMCIA slots, Windows-NT w connectivity software,
*** $3500 **** (Thats no typo). No monitor, I guess.
In comparision the AlphaStation 200 4/166 is $10k.
166mhz, 32MB RAM, 512k secondary cache, SCSI-2 controller
and 3 expansions slots: 2 PCI and 1 ISA, ethernet, 8 plane
graphics card, 15 in Monitor, Windows-NT.
Is this HOT, wrong, or am I missing something?
Is this finally something to compete against INTEL?
Can we get the full scoop, pointers?
Mike M.
|
3516.37 | Multia! | FUNYET::ANDERSON | Have you seen Multia? | Thu Dec 15 1994 20:17 | 7 |
| Mike,
The Multia price is correct for a system with no monitor. For more information
on Multia, check out the Notes conference at ONTIME::MULTIA or the recent Sales
Update article.
Paul
|
3516.38 | | PCBUOA::KRATZ | | Fri Dec 16 1994 16:32 | 16 |
| re .36
The Multia uses a 166Mhz 21066 (very cheap part, very low performance).
It's a very bounded, low cost config.
The AlphaStation 200 4/166 is a 166Mhz 21064A (more expensive,
much higher performance). It has to deal with lots of options,
and has to support 3 OSs.
The Multia folks don't have to cater to OSF or VMS, which
brings in significant overhead in testing, support, etc. They
also are very familiar with pricing products in very competitive
markets (printers, terminals,...)
The Worksystems folks are just utterly clueless on how to price a
product.
.02 kb
|
3516.39 | | SUBURB::POWELLM | Nostalgia isn't what it used to be! | Mon Dec 19 1994 05:05 | 4 |
|
And Multia is a world beater!!!!
Malcolm.
|
3516.40 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Mon Dec 19 1994 09:41 | 5 |
| Re: .39
Except it seems to be shipping with dead batteries...
Steve
|
3516.41 | ;^) | SUBURB::POWELLM | Nostalgia isn't what it used to be! | Mon Dec 19 1994 10:14 | 5 |
|
Oh dear Steve, am I out of date already? I thought that they were
delivering with the Hard Disk disconnected?
Malcolm.
|
3516.42 | | PLUGH::needle | Money talks. Mine says "Good-Bye!" | Mon Dec 19 1994 16:16 | 11 |
| � The Multia uses a 166Mhz 21066 (very cheap part, very low performance).
� It's a very bounded, low cost config.
Let's be careful with that "very low performance" piece. 166 Mhz still
beats the pants off any of our competitors in this space. While it may
be very low performance compared to, say, an EV5, it will run rings around
most similar competitive platforms.
And you get dead batteries and disconnected disks for no extra charge :-).
j.
|
3516.43 | Don't all PC's come with little gotchas? | DECC::CXXC::REINIG | This too shall change | Mon Dec 19 1994 16:33 | 5 |
| Hey, when I got my PC, it was configured with the cache turned off and
the monitor at the interleved refresh rate. (And it wasn't a Digital
PC either).
August
|
3516.44 | The Multia is NOT a PC! | SUBURB::POWELLM | Nostalgia isn't what it used to be! | Tue Dec 20 1994 05:35 | 6 |
|
The Multia is NOT a PC as such, it is designed to be used in a
Network - ANY Network. I have my suspicions that one *might* be able
to use it stand-alone, but it is NOT designed for that purpose.
Malcolm.
|
3516.45 | Digital News and Review Editorial | HLDE01::VUURBOOM_R | Roelof Vuurboom @ APD, DTN 829 4066 | Tue Dec 20 1994 08:41 | 105 |
| From: ASABET::STRECKER 19-DEC-1994 13:39:27.34
To: OGILVIE
CC: STRECKER
Subj: Forward to Staff/All...
From: MSBCS::DEMMER "Bill Demmer DTN: 293-5000 BXB1-2/D10 16-Dec-1994 0526 -0500" 16-DEC-1994 05:31:55.77
To: @SBG
CC: DEMMER
Subj: FYI - Good News -/Bill
From: US1RMC::"[email protected]" "Roger Gourd" 12-DEC-1994 10:28:27.78
To: msbcs::demmer
CC: [email protected]
Subj: Good News is always good news
Congratulations! Have a wonderful holiday with Marie and
any/all gathered offspring. And I look forward to seeing
you at breakfast Thursday, January 12th. Maybe after your
move we'll be able to eat somewhere that has good food!
roger
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Subject: comments from Digital at Comdex
Digital - A metamorphosis in the desert
{Editorial in Digital News and Review, 5-Dec-94, p. 8}
{Contributed by Michael Pettengill}
Editorial, Paul Nesdore, DN&R Editor in Chief
Tired of the old laid-back image of Digital Equipment Corp., whose marketing
clout used to be less exciting than watching bowling on television? Fed up
with product lines that don't offer resellers a full spectrum of enterprise
capability and are proprietary to boot? Well, do we have news for you!
Those of you who attended Comdex saw something startling. There was an "in
your face" Digital presence that was unprecidented in the history of Comdex or
the company. Wherever you turned in Las Vegas, Digital was there. From the
laser light show on the wall of the South Hall to the sleek sports car being
raffled off to the Multia decals over the entrances, Digital was stating
something that Ken Olsen never could or would have dreamed of.
It was no mirage.
Digital recently took a survey after changing its official street name from
DEC to Digital. The results showed that there were a significant number of
people who thought that DEC and Digital were two different companies. While
this news may have revealed a lack of marketing communication, perhaps it also
revealed a good discovery, because the new "Digital" makes "DEC" look like an
also-ran.
Digital's Comdex presence was immense, inspite of the general hype overload
inherent at any and every Comdex and even taking into account the Microsoft
Windows95 and IBM OS/2 Warp extravaganzas. Digital's message was clear; it
was involved, it was competitive, it was not proprietary, and it was second
to none.
One of the highlights was the VAR breakfast at Tropicana, hosted by the
components devision. There, executives touted the virtues of of the Multia
MultiClient Desktop. This full-capacity matuinal soiree was impressive, with
all the senior components division executives on hand.
Back on the show floor, the components division booth was separated from the
main Digital complex at the convention center. Again the message was clear:
There's nothing proprietary here.
Other company divisions were strongly represented, too. Computer Systems
Division head Enrico Pesatori held a breakfast, reinforcing Windows NT running
on AlphaStations and AlphaServers and demonstrating the integrated systems and
network management platforms on Windows NT--Polycenter Assestworks and
Polycenter Manager on Netview for NT.
Another announcement was the 0.5 micron version of the Alpha 21066
processor, the 21066A. Add to this five new AlphaServers and three new
AlphaStations, the complete range of PCs (the Celebris, the Venturis, and the
Starion), and the new notebook, HiNote, and the array was overwhelming.
Digital also announced that it had been selected to manage Microsoft's network
infrastructure.
Even more obvious than the products and the glitter was Digital's openness
with the press. Special arrangements were made for senior Digital executives
to meet one-on-one with reporters. I had meetings easily arranged with
Pesatori, Harry Copperman, vice president of worldwide sales and marketing for
the Systems Busines Unit, and Charlie Christ of the components division. They
all indicated their willingness to talk about the new Digital. None said the
task was easy, or that the hard part was over. But all clearly showed that
the metamorphosis was taking place and the new thought patterns were being
instilled throughout the company. Particularly impressive was Pesatori, whose
focus is iron-like and who refuses to engage in industry bashing to make
excuses for Digital's shortcomings.
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% From: Roger Gourd <[email protected]>
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3516.46 | Then there's this from VNS | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Tue Dec 20 1994 10:25 | 124 |
| Digital - It looks like a PC maker, walks like a PC maker...
{Business Week, 12-Dec-94, p. 106}
{Contributed by: Don Churn}
[This is the entire article- TT]
After years of false starts, DEC has hot machines and a serious game plan
for creating a market presence..
With its repeated entries and sudden departures from the personal-computer
business over the years, Digital Equipment Corp. has never been considered a
serious contender. It didn't help that the minicomputer maker's founder,
Kenneth H. Olsen, was fond of denigrating the upstart PC. "Everyone will have
one - tucked away in his closet," he confidently predicted.
Now, it turns out, DEC is really a closet PC company. In just the past two
months, it has revived a me-too product line with well-received IBM-compatible
desktop and notebook PCs. A new retail sales push includes savvy
consumer-product marketing ideas, such as giving major retailers exclusives on
certain models. The company mad e splash with new models at Comdex, the
industry's extravaganza in early November, and a new crew of seasoned PC
talent is busy hatching more plans to enlarge DEC's PC business. Even rivals
no longer doubt DEC's PC ambitions. "I hate to say it," says Jim McDonnell, a
Hewlett-Packard Co. marketing manager, "but DEC smells like a PC company."
Mini Relief.
It certainly looks like a contender. Industry analysts expect DEC to double
PC shipments, to 1 million machines this year, vaulting the company to No. 12
in the world market from a lowly No. 26 just two years ago (table). The
Personal Computer Business Unit should contribute $2 billion or 24% of the
company's product sales, for the fiscal year ending next June 30 - up from
$1.5 billion last year.
In fact, it could be the PC that pulls DEC out of its five-year funk.
PC-revenue gains are already helping to offset the nearly $6 billion in red
ink over the last four years from tanking mini sales. But more important, the
successful PC unit is making DEC rethink how it does business in general and
its approach to such concepts as client-server computing in particular. "The
success of the PC business has deeply affected the way the company is thinking
about the systems business," says Wes Melling of Stamford (Conn.) researcher
Gartner Group Inc. For example, DEC is rewriting a version of the pioneering
disk-sharing software it originally developed for its minis to run on PC-based
servers. The software is designed to be easy to install and will be sold in
PC stores.
[Photo of Bernhard Auer holding a notebook. Caption: Ultrathin is in: Auer
with the HiNote]
[Table: Upward Mobility
DEC's worldwide PC market share by units shipped
'91 '92 '93 '94
Market Share 0.6% 0.7% 1.3% 2.3%
Rank 31 26 15 12
1994 Estimated market share Rank
Compaq 11% 1
IBM 10% 2
Apple 9.5% 3
Packard Bell 4.7% 4
NEC 4% 5
DEC 2.3% 12
The PC turnaround began two years ago with the arrival of Enrico Pesatori, a
former Zenith Data Systems executive and longtime veteran of Italian PC giant
Olivetti. Pesatori dramatically expanded the use of resellers, hired new
managers and redirected development efforts. Last April, he was rewarded with
the Systems Business Unit, responsible for all computers. He handed over the
PC operation to Bernhard Auer, a former executive with Compaq in Europe.
Auer has already presided over the introduction of striking new products,
such as the ultrathin HiNote notebook - selected as the best new product at
Comdex by researcher BIS Strategic Decisions. Next up is a new computer
slated for introduction on Dec. 5 that runs client-server networks. While the
main target for the new Prioris line will be servers made by Compaq Computer,
IBM and Dell Computer, Auer concedes it will also compete against DEC's
cherished minicomputers.
Such freedom to pursue its markets - even if it means mashing other DEC toes
- may be critical for the continued success of the PC unit. Auer, a
53-year-old native of southern Germany who describes himself as a "determined
Bavarian," ants the unit to swing for attainable goals rather than grand
slams. When he came in, the official objective was to take fifth place in
market share next year. That would have required DEC to sell 4 million PCs, a
near-impossible dream. Now, Auer is focusing on a handful of fast-growing
segments. "I need a few number ones in the short term," he says. Because
notebooks and servers carry higher margins than desktop machines, hits in
those markets should help Auer continue to maintain net margins similar to
Dell's 4%, he says.
Will he succeed? A lot depends on the new products. Thus far, analysts
say, DEC's gains have come largely from selling PCs to its minicomputer
customers. Now, the going gets tougher as DEC expands to new customers among
small businesses and consumers. The new HiNote, for example, will have to
fight for shelf space against such names as Compaq, Toshiba, Apple, and a
revitalized IBM. That's going to be an uphill battle. PC Warehouse, an
87-store chain based in Rochelle Park, N.J., recently passed on DEC because it
lacks separate lines for consumers and businesses. "The manufacturers we pick
up have to have retail and corporate products," says Reza Shafiei, director of
marketing at PC Warehouse. "Timing is very important; now, DEC is a little
late."
To overcome the late start, Auer is counting on a team of veteran PC
managers recruited from Compaq, Zenith, IBM and Tandy. And just like other PC
companies, he has aligned the PC operation into desktop, mobile, and retail
"brand" units that mimic Procter & Gamble Co.'s consumer-marketing machine.
Indeed, analysts expect a consumer-market push to emerge within 12 months.
"They've been successful in pulling together an organization with people and
disciplines from all areas of the business," says Randal A. Giusto, director
of mobile computing at researcher BIS.
If any group epitomizes the new approach, it's the team that delivered the
HiNote. Led by Vice-President Winnie Briney, a former IBM PC marketing
manager, the group created a machine that is 1 inch thick and sports a
full-sized screen and keyboard. HiNote sales could hit 300,000 to 400,000
units next year - about five times the annual shipments for DEC's current
notebook offerings, says researcher WorkGroup Technologies Inc.
Household Name?
Opening new PC markets will be critical if DEC hopes to crack the top 10
next year. PC juggernaut Compaq has an ambitious goal of its own: to nearly
double market share to 20% by 1995. Analysts figure it can only do that by
taking business from second-tier players. To avoid being rolled over, DEC has
to jump-start its retail push. Leading the effort is former Compaq marketing
executive Skip Gladfelter, now a DEC vice-president. His first target is the
millions of consumers and small-business owners that he hopes are shopping
mass-merchandise discount chains. He has signed CompUSA and Sam's Club and
expects to have four major chains carrying DEC products in 1995.
That should give DEC a way to go after another hot market. "By next
Christmas, we want to have a true consumer product," says Gladfelter. Now,
what would company founder Olsen say about a DEC PC under every Christmas
tree?
By Gary McWilliams in Acton, Mass., with Peter Burrows in Dallas.
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3516.47 | | PCBUOA::KRATZ | | Tue Dec 20 1994 10:25 | 8 |
| re .42
>Let's be careful with that "very low performance" piece.
I was comparing it to Pentiums (or even 486 dx4/100), where
indeed a 166Mhz LCA has very low performance. Even the top of
the line 275Mhz 21064A with 2Mb cache is only 33% faster than
a Pentium100 at the native NT application level. [source:
PC Week, using Excel32 and Word32]. kb
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3516.48 | When will we see those SPEC Numbers? | NEWVAX::MURRAY | HELL! its hot right now. | Tue Dec 20 1994 10:45 | 3 |
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In the latest Client/Server Today, they talk about new compilers which
improve performance. How much? I'm waiting to see our SPEC numbers.
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3516.49 | Not sure if this is general knowledge but ... | WELCLU::SHARKEYA | LoginN - even makes the coffee@ | Thu Dec 22 1994 09:53 | 4 |
| re .47 - You shouldn't really compare the two EXcels - the Intel
version has some hand crafted assembler in there to speed it up.
Alan
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3516.50 | From a users perspective? | OSL09::OLAV | Do it in parallel! | Tue Dec 27 1994 08:42 | 8 |
| > re .47 - You shouldn't really compare the two EXcels - the Intel
> version has some hand crafted assembler in there to speed it up.
Yes, it's too bad that one often has to compare applications running on
the hardware :-). Most customers actually don't run SPECfp92 all the day.
Olav
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3516.51 | Its not bad for a first effort ! | WELCLU::SHARKEYA | LoginN - even makes the coffee@ | Thu Dec 29 1994 17:43 | 4 |
| Yep - I agree in practice but lets wait for the next version of EXcel
for Alpha - when (I hope) there will be some improvements.
Alan
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