Title: | The Digital way of working |
Moderator: | QUARK::LIONEL ON |
Created: | Fri Feb 14 1986 |
Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 5321 |
Total number of notes: | 139771 |
The following letter was sent to James Roberts from CNS in an effort try and communicate my desires for services from CNS. -Steve James, Thanks for meeting with me last week. I would just like to follow up with the items that we talked about and address some other issues. As a former Digital Consultant I would visit customers and talk to the end users and then provide that feedback to the MIS department. Typically the things that the end users wanted could be easily provided but MIS was not aware of the issues were really frustrating the end users. Why, because the lines of communications had broken down. This is typically because MIS was busy putting out fires and dealing the day to day issues involved with keeping the systems running. But what they had really lost was the customer focus that is necessary for the end users to see them as added value, i.e. the answer to the question "What have you done for me lately." was not apparent. I am pretty sure that MIS is not aware of my needs as an end user. I am equally sure that I am not aware of the programs that you have in place to improve the service that you provide to the Sales Organization. Somehow we need to improve communication so that we can succeed together. Things that I have seen work at various customers include developing a liaison program where MIS would meet with the "Power Users" to keep them up to date on what is going on. The "Power Users" are formally tasked by their management chain to provide the routine first level of support. I get 2- 3 users in my cube daily with question on how to copy files or move files to their PC. As I am no longer in Sales Support, I do not know if I can continue this support and be successful in my new sales job. The programs that come out of MIS appear to be uncoordinated and not well communicated. There is the Work at Home program, the IR tool, Internet Access and the Sales Horizon program. The Sales Horizon program's remote access is different than the planned Remote access program via TCP/IP. The architecture that we put in place with the last sales laptop program was unsupportable and doomed for failure. What lessons have been learned so that this time we can deliver a world class solution. Digital should be a show case for how to correctly implement Client/Server computing yet today we are still running 90% of our applications off of a terminal screen. I understand that we are moving to Pathworks V5.1. Currently, most users are running Pathworks 4.1 without the transports (TCP/IP, DECnet) necessary to deliver client/server applications. The purpose of this letter is to define my requirements. Hopefully you can provide feedback on how they can be addressed. Remote Access I would like highspeed (28.8 - 56K) remote TCP/IP access to the Easynet. I have explored ISDN access and GTE will be providing it by December 94. We have the Terminal Servers and the modems necessary to provide 9.6 connections now but for the lack of a Terminal Server memory upgrade ($200 MLP) we are unable to get access. I am exploring with my manager the possibility of providing high speed modems into an existing WinNT RAS Server. We currently have one working today at 14.4. Laptop Program I have heard that we are getting upgraded laptops. What is the plan and what is the architecture to allow us to take advantage of these systems. Is there a plan to allow software upgrades. Will they be running full Pathworks and Linkworks, the ALL-IN-1 of the 90's. We recently hired several new people in the LAO Facility. Their frustration with getting a system set up and access to information was in marked contrast to the experience relayed to me from a manager who left Digital to go to work for Microsoft. When he reported the first day he had a PC setup that connected to the server and had a mail and scheduler that worked. Onsite Support Can we get a Pathworks System manager on site at LAO. It is my perception that we need a Pathworks System manager one day a week to start until the folks are trained and then maybe every other week. No other company that I know does not designate a system manager for the users to contact. I do not even know all of the services that are offered off of the site servers. Name Services I would love to have access to a Digital Naming Service or X.500 service so that I could use Teamlinks or Infobroker to access the Email addresses of Digital employees and even VARS and Distributors that we do business with. Having this information available would allow me to improve communications to people who sell our products and allow Digital to use it's Information Systems as a competitive weapon. Internet Access. I would like to see a 1 day training class on Internet access. Pathworks 5.1 includes Mosaic but it took me 2 days to get it working with the SEAL Gateway. We should make this easy for other users. With Internet access I was able to get information about SUN's new systems to use competitively. Information Repository This is a terrible application and if you have ever used it you will be amazed at how difficult it is to get information down to end users. Our current implementation of VTX is not much better. Can we develop a strategy to allow better access to information. Are we considering moving to Mosaic Servers. I have information overload and really need a tool to help me find information. There are many text retrieval tools like Excalibur and Verity that would allow us to quickly find mail messages and VAXnotes files. Here is an example of how easy it is to get information from the information repository. We wonder why our cost of sales is so high. >>There was an error in the access instructions in the memothat was sent >>Friday announcing the availability of the new "DigitalEquipment >>Corporation: Financial Focus(Q1FY95)" customer presentation. >>To access the presentation via the Integrated Repository (VTX IR), select >>Item 4 from the main menu, Search by Document ID. Enter"OL005E" to >>specify the Financial Focus presentation. You can then select item 2 and >>mail Postscript, Powerpoint or ASCII versions of the presentation. Easynet Information The Easynet contains a great deal of information the only problem is you have to find it. I really need the ability to browse the Easynet so that from my PC I can easily find and mount file systems that have information that I need. The Network Warriors and the Pathworks Product Sales Specialists have information on line that we need to get not only to our ABU reps but also to the VAR's and Distributors. VAXnotes I do not think that the management making funding decisions are aware of just how integral VAXnotes is to our ability to successfully support our customers. We have not invested in this product and we know of the success of Lotus Notes. What is our plan for providing future VAXnotes functionality i.e.: 1. Improved Searches. 2. Conferences that easy to add. The problem now is that you have to do too much to find the conference , that you want to add to your notebook. 3. Batch Searches so that you can tell a server to look in these 3 conferences and notify you when it is done and display the results. 4. Windows Access from home. 5. A monitoring utility similar to PAVN that automatically mails you notes that are added to a conference that you are monitoring. 6. TIMA like functionality for searching all of the information sources on the network. If TIMA could be made easier to use it would be a very, very effective tool for Sales Support. See Attachment #1 for 1992 memo requesting additional support. DEMO Center Support Now that OpenNET has been officially decommited we need to have access after hours to network support so that if we need to finish setting up a customer demo after hours and the network is having problems we can get support. FAX Gateway I would like to be able to set up the ability to fax information to Distributors, Customers and VARS. Do we have this service from DECmailworks. Presentations There was a OPAL CD that was available. It would be great to be able to browse the site server, and then drag and drop presentations to my pc. Current delivery methods are so difficult as to be virtually unusable by anyone other than PC Power users. Windows Domain Naming Architecture Could you please communicate your architecture for implementing Windows NT Server Domain Name Architecture. Improved Communications If you are unable to meet my needs as an end user there are probably good reasons but please let me know when you will be able to meet them and the plan to do so. If you cannot address them at this time please recommend a method for me to solve my own problem so that when you are able to address the problem from a corporate point of view the solution that I have implemented will fit into your IS Architecture. For example, I need remote IP Access. I am doing it today via NT Sever running WINS. I do not know how this will affect your plans. I have communicated to CNS that NT Domains are popping up all over the place. I have been asking for over a year to hear your plans for Domain Names. The impact of this lack of communication is that if the names that are being used conflict with your architecture, then the end user must totally reinstall Window NTS costing digital thousands of dollars in man-hours. I am not asking you to implement the plan just communicate the architecture so that I can comply. Thanks for listening, I look forward to hearing from you. I know your organization is dealing with having to do more with less but improved communications will allow us to focus our efforts so as to get the greatest return for our investment. Steve ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ -- Attachment #1 Judy, As we have discussed at SPATT, Sales Support makes significant use of VAXnotes as a tool for research and to find answers to questions. If we placed some development energy on improving it we will likely see increased use by both Sales Support and, if it is made easier to use by Sales. If you agree we should get it on the list of SPATT sponsored applications. Steve - I don't know who in engineering needs to be influenced to increase the staffing. Regards, Bill From: BGYBRD::UDICK 9-NOV-1992 19:49:34.46 To: OFFPLS::HORZEMPA CC: Subj: Sales Support Tools Bill, I feel pretty safe in saying that the major tool used by Sales Support is VAXnotes. Significant improvements in Sales Support productivity as well as Sales Productivity could be made if we made improvements to that application. We have a total of 1 engineer working on VAXnotes. There have been many hacks such as PAVN (Automated VAXnotes) that allow you mail yourself all of the new notes and allows searches in Batch. Investment in this application could greatly improve communications to the field. To whom should we address our cards and letters. Thanks, Steve ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------- Steve, Thanks for bringing this up. VAXNOTES IS BY FAR THE MOST VALUABLE TOOL I HAVE AS A SUPPORT SPECIALIST. NO QUESTIONS. NO DOUBT. Hunter Smith
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3466.1 | Complete Agreement with .0 | ODIXIE::GARAVANO | Wed Oct 26 1994 18:13 | 25 | |
As a senior sales executive writing this from a DECMATE III, I completely agree with everything described in this note. IR is so difficult to use I have given up -- RE: PC's - It seems no one at corporate knows that 320P's sent to the field had Powerpoint 2.0. originally installed - and no upgrade was ever provided. Thus from 7pm to 2am I got to insert #X of 33 (for Windows) and number X of 7 for Powerpoint 3.0 - Talk about your fun evening!! But - hey - it was worth it to read that Corporate Powerpoint 3.0 ONLY sales training presentation --- NOT RE: Sales Horizon - this will not work for sales people - too many prescreens. RE: Expense Forms - What a mess - it seems that in generating this application there was no thought given to returning from a customer site. It took me hours to fix the formulas - The MIS department responsible for providing automated tools to the sales force must as a minimum spend one week "walking in our shoes"- Its what we demand of customers we sell client server solutions to - We call it iterative prototyping - We must start to do internally what we sell externally. | |||||
3466.2 | PYRO::RON | Ron S. van Zuylen | Wed Oct 26 1994 18:52 | 9 | |
One thing you should note: CNS is not Digital's "MIS". If you think about it, Digital does not really have a single "MIS" entity in it's current organization. CNS does not control the entire computing environment; you can't really blame them for all the (definitely not new) problems. --Ron | |||||
3466.3 | Contact CNS Client Services | NYAAPS::CORBISHLEY | David Corbishley 323-4376 | Wed Oct 26 1994 19:28 | 28 |
You raise a lot of issue, not all involve CNS. For example, the providing of desktop/laptop systems and the software that runs on it is not a CNS activity. We have recently announced a country-wide set of support options for desktop systems where the price is consistant across all Territories. The same to support the H.O.M.E program will also be announced shortly. Part of the frustration we all feel is that services cost money and the need to meet our budget goals has helped change some of the ways we do business. In .0 it is pointed out that a system manager is needed for a local site server. I know in my Territory we have centalized that function and a group of skilled individuals provide that service for a number of systems from Maine to New Jersey (from the KYO and MRO facilities). I believe your Territory is doing the same. One result is that we break the tie between a system and a specific individual. Calling your HelpDesk will route calls to that team. That is just one example. I would suggest anyone needing service information or wish to discuss business needs contact their local HelpDesk and ask for the Client Services Manager. I understand not all territories may use this specific title, but they should be able to guide you to the right person. In Eastern Production Territory and AKO,BXB, BXC, and MKO, call Bob Morrison. At NRO, OGO, PKO, UOP, and SHR call Donna Ceriani. I'm a member of the Desktop team, feel free to contact me with any issues in that arena, I'll be glad to take them to the Team. | |||||
3466.4 | Valid points all. | NEWVAX::MZARUDZKI | I AXPed it, and it is thinking... | Thu Oct 27 1994 07:59 | 12 |
The point is made that we have local implementations that effect corporate wide resouces. Those resources are scarce and costly. So what you have here is local resouces duplicating efforts and services because there is no direction from corporate. Hey, someone needs to step forward and say, we own this. And here are your options for implementation. The bottom line IMHO is that the infastructure of the EasyNet is changing, yet the same old resouce tools are not. -Mike Z. | |||||
3466.5 | start at the top? | GLR02::DWESSELS | Life is like working for Digital... FG | Thu Oct 27 1994 11:28 | 13 |
As others have noted, it's not always CNS providing the services. It can be difficult to identify where issues should be forwarded, but I believe all support organizations eventually report up to: (from VTX LIVEWIRE CMC listing) Bob McNulty Chief Information Officer, Quality, and Operations Management Services You may want to forward your list of issues to his office? /Diane | |||||
3466.6 | Sales Horizon PM | ANGLIN::CAMPBELL | It's the gov't, stupid! | Mon Oct 31 1994 14:44 | 5 |
The program manager for Sales Horizon is Tim Walsh. I'm sure he'd be open to feedback, and they're working on V2.0 already... Pat Campbell Digital SI | |||||
3466.7 | Lack of communication | BREAKR::UDICK | It can't be too easy to use ... | Mon Oct 31 1994 18:41 | 6 |
My main concern is the lack of communication between all of those providing service to the end user. Thanks, Steve | |||||
3466.8 | RCOCER::MICKOL | Now a pooled resource | Fri Nov 11 1994 00:01 | 11 | |
One of our biggest fears here in Upstate New York is how CNS is going to support the whole Telecommuting (aka H.O.M.E.) program. Currently, sales support does quite a bit of support to the rest of the organization when it comes to personal productivity tools (PCs, Pathworks, etc). I don't think CNS has the right tools, training, technology or planning to support the computing infrastructure today, much less what they are planning to roll out over the next few months. There is a CNS survey underway currently, so give them your feedback. | |||||
3466.9 | I agree.... | ODIXIE::RICHARDSON | Are we there yet?? | Wed Nov 23 1994 14:32 | 22 |
I've given them my feedback (both solicited and unsolicited) on their "support" (or lack thereof) of the Telecommuting program. Everyone I've talked to who is any way shapre or form connected with CNS DOES NOT UNDERSTAND the requirements of the end user, even though they have been clearly outlined over and over again by numerous messages from myself and my counterparts as well as the excellent base note. Some of us have been forced to "exist" on the home program due to offices closing already. I am not convinced that any one in CNS (or whatever group is working with them on the Telecommuting infrastructure) has a clue as to what is needed to provide an adequate architecture so that those of us left can concentrate on doing our jobs instead of spending time trying to figure out how to get things accomplished so CNS can cut costs and look good on the books. This may sound rather harsh but I've been trying to get information from internal sources so I can move forward and get on with business for the last couple of months to no avail. I literally give up (and I don't give up easily!) Cindy that I can make decisions and move forward | |||||
3466.10 | ...it doesn't cost that much to communicate | LAOSS1::UDICK_ST | It can't be too easy to use ... | Wed May 03 1995 21:09 | 10 |
6 months later no improvements. In typical matter I went out and spent my own money and now have WinNT with RAS into the office. I appreciate the cost issues that Digital and CNS have to put up with but it doesn't cost that much to communicate. -Steve |