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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

3361.0. "Russian Keyboard and DOS? Digital." by JOBURG::HARRIS () Tue Aug 30 1994 13:32

    Could anyone help with the following information
    Digital code for a Digital Russian PC Keyboard
    Digital code for Dos for Russian.
    
    Why?   see extract of Message to a colleague below:
    
         For some years now, since Russian ships have been docking in Cape
         Town,the Sailors have been going to the Churches here.
         Unfortunately on a fateful Sunday evening about 1 1/2 years ago a
         couple of youths sprayed a congregation of 600 people with
         automatic rifle fire and threw a couple of hand grenades too. 
         I think about 6 people died but many were badly injured. One of
         these people who is now in an institution in the UK is the brother
         of the Secretary of our VAR in Cape Town, OIT.
    
         Another chap was a Russian Sailor who had both legs blown off and
         one arm. The other arm I believe is not too usable and can basically
         hold a stick or tool.
    
         The request in the newspaper was for a printer but by the time I
         called, a printer had been donated.
    
         He receives mail from his family back in the Soviet Union but 
         cannot reply as his family cannot speak english and his PC only 
         has an English keyboard and English DOS.
    
         I propose (Even if I carry the cost) that we assist in providing a
         Russian keyboard and Russian DOS.
    
    Thanking you for any information and advise.
    Ivan Harris@JHB Cape Town, South Africa.
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3361.1VTX PRICEMBALDY::LANGSTONour middle name is 'Equipment'Tue Aug 30 1994 14:495
from vtx price:

  47    PCXAL-HT    Russian 102 PC style keybrd                60.00
  53    PCXAL-QT    Cyrillic102 key premium keybd             120.00
  59    PCXAL-ST    102 KBD, OLIVETTI, RUSSIA                  61.00
3361.2options for CyrillicTINCUP::WILLIAMSTue Aug 30 1994 15:0010
    Microsoft sells a version of WINDOWS in Russian; it comes with keyboard 
    stickers.  They also sell a version of WORD in Russian.  They could be 
    ordered through their International Sales office at 206/936-8661.
    
    It's also possible to use a package called Trans-Cyrillic Pro for 
    Windows (Linguists Software, 206/775-1130), which runs under English-
    language WINDOWS and provides capability to use keys exactly as you 
    would on a Russian keyboard.  It costs $99 and works well (I use it).
    
    Howard
3361.3Assistive Technology CenterANGLIN::BJAMESI feel the need, the need for SPEEDTue Aug 30 1994 18:5910
    We have an office in MLO called the Assistive Technology Group (DTN:
    223-0109) who is in the business of building products which can be used
    by individuals with disabilities.  These are the folks that came up
    with the original DECtalk units for speech synthesis a long time ago.
    
    They may be able to offer some unique solutions to assit you on this
    noble cause.  Give them a call, they are very helpful and can offer you
    some other options for considertation.
    
    
3361.4More software availableHLDE01::HEIRBAUT_RYou are allmost welcome !Wed Aug 31 1994 04:0827
    FWIW,
    
    WordPerfect is available in russian. ChiWriter is also very capable of
    generating cyrillic script on any printer
    (no, not daisywheel, I know :-))
    Both are (I think) not to expensive.
    
    But it may be worth to take a look at some shareware as well. On the
    SIMTEL mirrors (e.g. MUCCS1 (europe) or HUMANE (eastern US)) you may
    find the files:
    MUCCS1::PD1:[MSDOS.EDITOR]CYRIL104.ZIP   SIZE:52319 BYTES
    MUCCS1::PD1:[MSDOS.EDITOR]RUSS.ZIP       SIZE:45608 BYTES
    MUCCS1::PD1:[MSDOS.MODEM]RUS_COMM.ZIP    SIZE:1252568 BYTES
    MUCCS1::PD1:[MSDOS.SCREEN]LRUS31.ZIP     SIZE:38869 BYTES
    
    CYRIL104.ZIP: Russian wordprocessor shows cyrillic onscreen
    RUSS.ZIP:     Russian language wordprocessor
    RUS_COMM.ZIP: Cyrillic editor with modem communication
    LRUS31.ZIP:   Cyrillic screen/keyboard driver for EGA/VGA
    
    I do not know what is usable since I understand he is disabled. MSDOS 6
    has some additions (additional programs) for disabled e.g.
    screen enhancements and keyboard enhancements. If you're interested,
    please let me know.
    
    Regards, Ronald Heirbaut
    DTN: 829-4379               
3361.5PCOJCT::CRANEWed Aug 31 1994 11:057
    Stranger than coincidence:
    I`ll be starting a course tonight on Russian I. It seems that I do not
    have access to a Cyrilic language on my system. Does any one know how I
    can contact a systems manager in either the Moscow or Kiev offices?
    
    Thnaks and regards.
    I would need their V-Mail account to write them.
3361.6English is no problem:-)JOBURG::HARRISWed Aug 31 1994 13:1624
    Thanks to all who have replied, I am working on this and will reply to
    all who have answered and or send mail to me.
    Just thought you might like to know: I will meet with this chap (I do
    not know his name) soon.
    
    A little more about him for info: He does understand English well
    (He has attended a language college here since the mishap) His 
    girlfriend has come out to South Africa and is now his wife! Hi arm  
    is not usable at all as all the nerves in it have ben severed. He uses 
    his stump arm with a brace and "Pointer/rod" to hit the key on
    the keyboard.
    
    I am looking forward to meeting with him and perhaps I will on his
    behalf, post a message from him should we as Digital succeed in
    making his life easier. I was told this evening that his wife (Olga) 
    has to hold a tea cup to his lips...so she nurses him full time. 
        And I complain when I have a headache!
    
    The language translater looks like the way to go. I will attend to
    this in the next couple of days and look at purchasing a copy. Also
    thanks for the tip on the notes file. There is indeed a notes file for
    PHYSICALLY CHALLENGED people.
        Regards Ivan.
    
3361.7Tania YablokovaJOBURG::HARRISWed Aug 31 1994 13:2811
    Re: .5
    I have had a look in elf....butthe only person that has entered their
    details is 
    Common Name:   TANIA YABLOKOVA
    Search Surname:  YABLOKOVA,  KORNEVA  Search Given Name:  TANIA, 
    NATASHA DTN:  869-0000  Telephone:  [7]5022245517  Intrnl Mail Addr:MOW
    Location:  MOW  Username:  YABLOKOVA  Org Unit:  OU3  Position:  LAWYER
    
    Maybe it's worth a try. 
    BTW I think in Moscow the node is MOW01 
    Regards
3361.8Freeware Cyrillic TrueType fontCPDW::IAGO::BISHOVWed Aug 31 1994 13:5510
    There is a freeware TrueType font: BROWNY::$1$DUA1:[HBD]cyrttf.zip
    which I've been using (through Word).   I could never figure out an
    easy way to map the characters to the English keyboard, so just took
    the plunge and learned Cyrillic touch typing.  Other than that,
    have had no problems with the font.
    
    There is more information in the HUMANE::IBMPC_SHAREWARE notesfile,
    note 1331.*.
    
    Sheldon
3361.9PCOJCT::CRANEThu Sep 01 1994 14:236
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    Sent a memo off to Tania late yesterday and haven`t heard anything yet.
    She might be on vacation. The MOW didn`t work but MOS01 did so I don`t
    know if it even left the gate.
    
    Thanks for the input and I`ll keep my fingers crossed.
3361.10Fonts et alHELKA::LODDance this mess around ...Thu Sep 01 1994 15:528
    There is a finnish company (which name <JL-Types?> I have at the office) 
    that produces 30+ russian/slavic/ex-soviet states charcter sets as 
    true type fonts. Remember, there are many besides russian.
    
    Try contacting Olga White at MOW (DTN 869-0000) or 7-502-224-5517 for
    help at Moscow end.
    
    	- tomi
3361.11USAT05::WARRENFELTZRThu Sep 01 1994 15:551
    what is DOS in Russian?
3361.12CUPMK::TALBOTThu Sep 01 1994 18:137
    >>>
        what is DOS in Russian?
    >>>
    
    I think it's short for DOS-zveedanya, nyet?
    
    ;^)
3361.13contact the Moscow Software CenterMOSCOW::BOERSThe Moscow software centerFri Sep 02 1994 04:5121
    
    We have a software engineering center (which I am managing) in
    Moscow Technopark. For those who know the area, it is in the
    exposition park in the north of the city. We provide subcontracting
    services to Digital centers in Western Europe and to the Russian
    subsidiary (third party support and localisation).
    
    Digital has a whole set of Russian products, like terminals and
    All-in-1. We use the standard Digital Russian character set under
    VMS and OSF, and the standard Microsoft software for Windows. There
    are several suitable Truetype fontsets which work with our
    Russian/Latin PC keyboards. For details you can contact
    Sergei (MSCDEV::) Osipov (on holiday from 5/ sept - 19 sept) or
    myself (MSCDEV::BOERS). 
    
    For a general description of the Moscow Software Center, look
    at MOSCOW::MSC-summary.txt
    
    
    	Rob
    
3361.14Full CircleHLDE01::VUURBOOM_RRoelof Vuurboom @ APD, DTN 829 4066Fri Sep 02 1994 06:463
    > What is DOS in Russian?
    
    I'ld type it in 'cept I  don't have a Russian keyboard :-)
3361.15Dmitri and OlgaJOBURG::HARRISSat Sep 10 1994 04:3526
    Hi All, I have finally met with Dmitri and his wife Olga. I have asked
    him to let me know what he would like most of all of all the proposals
    that have been put forward. And they are in this order:
    1. World Font for Translation.
    2. The Russian Keyboard.
    3. The Cyrilic Wordproc software.
    
    And of course for me it is easiest to obtain item 3 then 2 and as 1 has
    a reasonably high cost invovled, I will have to call the Manufacturers
    and see if I could manage a discount. 
    
    His English is pretty good and he understands PC's very well. He would
    probably be able to do all the installations himself. He has a
    machanical Right forarm but he does not use the "Pincher/finger". I
    have no idea how it functions. His left arm is intact but does not seem  
    to have any control of his fingers. He uses the downward motion
    controled by his arm to "hit" the keys on the keyboard. 
    
    I will still make contact with our group that handles voice that was
    mentioned earlier in the notes. 
    
    I invited them to the Digital stand at our local Computer show but his
    mind was more with getting his own life in order. But non the less was
    impressed with some of our Latest Mid range stuff. 3000-800. AXP 150
    etc
    Back soon , Cheers Ivan