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3319.1 | I split my coffee all over it, exicited i was | NEWVAX::MZARUDZKI | I AXPed it, and it is thinking... | Thu Aug 11 1994 08:59 | 8 |
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Washington Post 08-11-1994.
Right smack in the middle of the main section.
This is NICE.
-Mike Z.
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3319.2 | New, and more to come | KELVIN::SCHMIDT | Cynical Optimist | Thu Aug 11 1994 09:59 | 11 |
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This ad and similar ones are shown in a videotape of a high-
level managers (top 150) managers' meeting. Glad to see this
one out so soon. They all had the same assertive tone, with
a sense of humor; real attention-getters.
It feels real positive for a change.
Peter
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3319.3 | Planning a comeback - doing a comeback | IDEFIX::65296::siren | | Thu Aug 11 1994 11:11 | 12 |
| Sounds nice, but should they change
>But don't worry, we're planning a comeback.
To be something like 'we're speeding up for a comeback'.
Planning and planning and planning and planning..... has always been a
Digital specialty ;^(.
--Ritva
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3319.4 | in USA Today, too | ALOS01::HOULIHAN | | Thu Aug 11 1994 11:12 | 9 |
| The "comeback" ad is also being run in today's USA Today on page 8A/B.
A customer brought this to our attention this morning!
Well put together ad!
Call me an optimist, but I do believe we (Digital) really are beginning
to make a comeback.
Tom
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3319.5 | Notice the Phone number!! | SNAX::PIERPONT | | Thu Aug 11 1994 11:17 | 1 |
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3319.6 | | BSS::C_BOUTCHER | | Thu Aug 11 1994 11:30 | 1 |
| Glad to see it, but it should read "making a comeback", not "planning".
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3319.7 | Did it appear in the WSJ also ? | ENQUE::TAMER | | Thu Aug 11 1994 11:52 | 5 |
| re -1
agree.. It should be "making a comeback".
Is it in the WSJ also ?
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3319.8 | Someone's leg came off? | TPSYS::BUTCHART | Software Performance Group | Thu Aug 11 1994 11:58 | 8 |
| re .6&.7
I think it's called "tongue in cheek", and I thought it was a rather
broadly humorous touch, in the context of the numbers being thrown
around. Not up to the old VW ads of many years back, but pleasantly
amusing - like the "you'd think we invented networking..." ad.
/Butch
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3319.9 | Tempered optimism | PCBUOA::LEFEBVRE | PCBU Asia/Pacific Marketing | Thu Aug 11 1994 13:41 | 16 |
| I agree, it was entirely tongue-in-cheek. Given the growth numbers, it
should be obvious to the reader that we are already in growth mode for
our core businesses. The fact that say we're "planning" for growth
is a sarcastic exclamation point. I like it!
As a side note, given the endemic depression and hand-wringing over the
bad financial performance of the company over the last several years, I
truly look forward to the turn around.
If you think continuous bad news has a catastrophic impact on employee
morale, imagine what this place will be like when we turn the corner
and start winning again. A hungrier, more focused workforce will
finally emerge.
Mark.
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3319.10 | Sounds Great!!!!! | GLDOA::CUTLER | Car Topin' On The Cumberland | Thu Aug 11 1994 13:55 | 9 |
|
I haven't seen the ad yet, but it sounds great! Is there a light at
the end of this tunnel .... I'm starting to see one and its about
time, keep the positives coming!
RC
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3319.11 | Ad contents are now in LIVEWIRE | ENQUE::TAMER | | Thu Aug 11 1994 14:42 | 1 |
| look in VTX livewire for the text of the Ad.
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3319.12 | Ad text - from LIVEWIRE | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Thu Aug 11 1994 15:11 | 119 |
| The following two-page newspaper ad appeared today in the Wall Street
Journal, USA Today, New York Times, Washington Post and the Boston Globe.
It is scheduled to appear in Barron's, Financial Times and the international
edition of the Wall Street Journal.
--------------------------------------
In the past year, we've seen our storage
business grow 30%, our PC business grow
100%, and our Alpha AXP sales increase 164%.
But don't worry, we're
planning a comeback.
Some people think those figures already represent a comeback. To us,
it's just a beginning. Because what we're coming back with is a whole new
way of doing business.
At our new Computer Systems Division, we're taking the lessons learned in
our PC operation and applying them to our core business. The result: a
division with its own manufacturing, engineering, sales and marketing -
one that lets us pay more attention to your needs. And helps us develop
better products more quickly. At even more competitive prices.
In short, Digital is changing. From a company famous for a complicated
decision-making process, to one famous for decisiveness. From a company
legendary for its proprietary products, to one unequaled in the openness
of its systems and its range of choice.
THE BEST OF CISC,
THE BEST OF RISC
That choice begins with two equally supported platforms -- Intel(TM) CISC
for very high volume and high performance PC clients and servers, and our
64-bit Alpha AXP(TM) RISC for absolutely blinding performance in
workstations and servers. And if you want to switch from CISC to RISC, we
offer the only products you can convert.
Now the industry is finally beginning work on 64-bit RISC, and we're
happy to see this endorsement of Alpha AXP. But HP and Intel say it'll
take a few years. We have 64-bit RISC now. With 6,000 applications.
OUR SYSTEM:
MANY SYSTEMS
Fact is, Digital is a multiple operating system company because that's
what most of you are. In DEC OSF/1(R), we have the most standards
compliant, highest quality UNIX(R) in the industry. IT gives you
outstanding high availability features through clustering and the fastest
recoverability of any UNIX on the market. And ours is the only commercial
64-bit UNIX system, which experts say will keep us the price/performance
leader for years.
We offer OpenVMS(TM) because millions need it, as it provides the best
clustering capabilities on the market for high-security, high-throughput,
business-critical work. We plan to support it, invest in it, keep
customers fully operational with it, and introduce it to new customers as
well.
What's more, Digital has partnered with Microsoft(R) to bring you the
Windows(TM) operating environment, Windows NT(TM) Workstation and Server.
All these system options give you one very important thing.
Choice without compromise.
OUR SOFTWARE: TRULY OPEN
This attitude of openness of course extends to software. One excellent
example is our PATHWORKS(TM) application, which lets you connect with
anybody on virtually any network operating system, no matter what client
you're on. And our LinkWorks(TM) software lets you share and edit work
regardless of application, on most any network operating system.
OUR STRATEGY:
YOU CALL THE SHOTS
So why do we think this multiple platform/multiple operating system
strategy is the way to go? Because it means we never have to force a
migration on you. You choose what's best now and we support it. You
decide when, where, or if you want to migrate and we provide what you
need. Simple.
THE MOST ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY
We think our technology leadership goes without saying. Nothing proves
this better than our pioneering 64-bit RISC architecture. Where else in
this industry are so many competitors so far behind a single leader?
Right now, our Alpha AXP clients and servers offer the highest
performance and the best price/performance you can buy. Which may have
something to do with the more than $1 billion in Alpha AXP systems we've
already sold.
THE EASIEST TO DO BUSINESS WITH
One of the few things at Digital that definitely isn't changing is the
world-class service and support we provide. But we're always looking for
ways to meet your needs more quickly, more comprehensively. That's why
we're now dramatically expanding our relationships with resellers, VARs
and System Integrators. Of course, if you need a direct relationship with
Digital, we're here, with our partners, delivering the products.
In any case, our goal is to become the easiest company to do business
with.
With the products, technology and support that will keep you competitive
into the 21st century.
Just like us.
(C) Digital Equipment Corporation, 1994. Digital, the DIGITAL
logo, DEC, Alpha AXP, LinkWorks, PATHWORKS, and OpenVMS are
trademarks of Digital Equipment Corporation. UNIX is a registered
trademark of UNIX System Laboratories, Inc. Intel is a trademark
of Intel Corporation. OSF/1 is a registered trademark of Open
System Foundation, Inc. Microsoft is a registered trademark, and
Windows and Windows NT are trademarks of Microsoft Corporation.
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3319.13 | | SWAM2::GOLDMAN_MA | Blondes have more Brains! | Thu Aug 11 1994 15:44 | 6 |
| That's more like it. Of course, I could wish that the powers that be
recognize that there are worthy newspapers which are not headquartered
in the East (try San Fran, Los Angeles, Chicago, etc., etc.), but that
would be nit-picking!
M.
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3319.14 | Does THE Valley know about this!? | SX4GTO::WANNOOR | | Thu Aug 11 1994 16:47 | 13 |
|
Sounds good; haven't seen it in today's SAN JOSE MERCURY, though!
In fact I dare say, scale down the ad $$$ spent on New York Times,
Washington Post, and shift that expenditure to make Digital
AT LEAST register in the heartbeat of THE [SILICON] Valley!!
Digital is a HAS-BEEN here, that old dying east coast computer
company, ya know! If Digital really wants mindshare, PLEASE
discard this "east coast" mentality!
- Voice from Digital's Timbuktu!
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3319.15 | "More to come" | ASABET::TROY | | Thu Aug 11 1994 19:32 | 12 |
|
Glad to hear positives on the campaign. The placements started in the
U.S. based newspapers this week - they will ramp up overseas at end
of August, based on vacations patterns of customers. WSJ started
overseas today as well.
You will see magazine placements as well - here in U.S., and in major
countries overseas.
Tradeoffs on regional U.S. newspapers are due to cost and reach vs. National
papers, and implementing an effective global campaign. Newspapers can be
implemented quickly, but are more expensive per insertion.
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3319.16 | | NACAD2::SHERMAN | Steve NETCAD::Sherman DTN 226-6992, LKG2-A/R05 pole AA2 | Thu Aug 11 1994 19:37 | 3 |
| Boy, I like that ad! Thanks to the folks that did it!
Steve
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3319.17 | SJM is not just a regional rag! | SX4GTO::WANNOOR | | Thu Aug 11 1994 21:23 | 12 |
| re -.15
I understand the costs vs coverage considerations in advertising,
but in this case, I believe my point is TOTALLY missed.
If one is a player or a wanna-be (like Digital) in the Valley, then
it is COMPULSORY to get exposure in the San Jose Mercury - please,
this is not your everyday regional newspaper.
Was there any market research done on this?!
- Timbuktu
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3319.18 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Thu Aug 11 1994 21:39 | 13 |
| When I got home I opened the Globe to actually see the ad. I liked
it even better.
I posted the text of the ad to a couple of Internet newsgroups which
had recently been bemoaning Digital's inept marketing and apparent
backing away from VMS, which was termed "the Rodney Dangerfield of
operating systems". I was astounded when I was forwarded a memo
a few days ago saying that, horrors, we'd now be actually trying
to sell VMS to NEW customers! Imagine!
Great job! Keep 'em coming!
Steve
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3319.19 | Blue Redux | SPECXN::WITHERS | Bob Withers | Fri Aug 12 1994 00:47 | 7 |
| Didn't IBM run ads like these just after the start of their major losses?
Maybe after they hired Gerstner?
Of course, IBM pulled it off...
BobW
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3319.20 | | RT128::BATES | Second Place: The First Loser | Fri Aug 12 1994 02:50 | 15 |
|
I was with the senior management of a major Commercial Distributor
(DigitalSpeak read: Master Reseller) business partner today who will
sell over $40 million in Digital products this year and they are
absolutely thrilled to see this ad campaign. They have bemoaned the
fact that until now they've had to go it alone to explain why Digital
is not such a bad choice to potential customers. With this sort of ad
campaign the job of reselling our products helps to remove the "Digital
viability" issue out of the sale and puts the issues back into the
product/price/performance/features/functions area where it should be.
Great work! and Thanks from our distribution partners!
-Joe
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3319.21 | Love the Ad! | GLDOA::CUTLER | Car Topin' On The Cumberland | Fri Aug 12 1994 09:19 | 13 |
|
I just saw the ad (USA Today), and it's great! The best (PC adds are
great too!) I've ever seen. My hats off to the people responsible.
Keep up the good (no great) work! I hope that this is an indication
of more "good" things to come/happen. Our "heads are out of the sand",
finally! Good job!
Rick C.
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3319.22 | Don't stop now! | NEWVAX::MURRAY | so many notes, so little time | Fri Aug 12 1994 09:46 | 3 |
|
AMAZING what a little advertising will do!
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3319.23 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Fri Aug 12 1994 11:03 | 6 |
| This ad, or something like it, should also be run in computer industry
publications such as Computerworld and Datamation. And yes, it should
definitely run in the San Jose Mercury, which is considered *THE* newspaper
for the west-coast high-tech industry.
Steve
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3319.24 | What about a direct mail to our partners? | ANGLIN::BJAMES | I feel the need, the need for SPEED | Fri Aug 12 1994 11:37 | 5 |
| Has anyone considered sending this ad to all our business partners
direct? Perhaps we can get them pumped up too, about the positive
things we have accomplished with Alpha, PC's networks, and storage.
Afterall we are *MORE* dependent on them than ever before.
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3319.25 | Good Ad | ASABET::LONDON | | Fri Aug 12 1994 12:16 | 8 |
| great ad
best I've ever seen at DEC
My only problem with it is that the typical Globe reader does not know
what Alpha AXP is - Unfortunately, it does not sound like something
people want. What I mean is - a kid going to college, an owner of a
small business etc....
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3319.26 | | TNPUBS::FORTEN | IDC: Information, Design, & Consulting | Fri Aug 12 1994 12:20 | 2 |
| In all honesty, why would a 'kid going to college' want an Alpha AXP?
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3319.27 | Get 'em early | ELGIN::RASOOLM | The computer in front is an ALPHA AXP | Fri Aug 12 1994 12:38 | 8 |
|
Re; -1
Because the 'kid' will soon be in a high power job and making
decisions?
Max.
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3319.28 | | TNPUBS::FORTEN | IDC: Information, Design, & Consulting | Fri Aug 12 1994 12:41 | 6 |
| >> Because the 'kid' will soon be in a high power job and making
>> decisions?
Wish I was that kid, then I'd be able to _afford_ an Alpha AXP while
going to college! ;^)
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3319.29 | He's selling it! | HERON::BLOMBERG | Trapped inside the universe | Fri Aug 12 1994 12:44 | 4 |
|
He's going to sell it, and therefore he want's something
expensive! :-)
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3319.30 | A marketing lesson for dec | ASABET::LONDON | | Fri Aug 12 1994 14:02 | 9 |
| A kid may want the fastest, most powerful computer his parents will
buy him.
To tell you the truth, I was just making the point that if you are
advertising in a non-industry related publication, you must consider
your readership.
Digital, even when they place a good ad - missed an important
aspect of marketing. KNOW YOUR MARKET
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3319.31 | sheesh! | MBALDY::LANGSTON | our middle name is 'Equipment' | Fri Aug 12 1994 14:22 | 20 |
| re: last few
get a grip! get a clue! f i g u r e i t o u t ! ! !
THE AD IS NOT AIMED AT KIDS GOING TO COLLEGE OR MOM AND POP SHOPS. They are not
our (direct) customers (anymore).
It's intended for our direct customers:
1. global accounts
2. channels (VARs, OEMs, Distributors, Superstores)
3. all accounts in between the IB4000 and the global accounts
i.e. accounts who buy between say $1 million and $10 million
In other words, it's aimed at (duh!) readers of the WSJ, NYT, Boston Globe(?),
and USA Today (business folks who get it free in the hotel with their
breakfast).
I think leaving it out of the San Jose Mercury may have been a mistake.
Bruce
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3319.32 | | QBUS::F_MUELLER | HOME but not forgotten! | Fri Aug 12 1994 15:07 | 13 |
| This may be beating a dead horse. But the ad should run in the San Jose
Mercury (it's not too late, you know). The what every company wants for
their advertising dollar is the most bang for the buck. I know that I
have seen more copies of the Mercury outside of California (in
bookstores, hotels and such) than I have seen the Globe outside of
Mass.
Frank M.
B.T.W. It's REALLY GREAT seeing such a positive attitude and outlook
from the Noters in the conference lately. Maybe some people in the
company really are trying to put the past behind them and move on.
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3319.33 | Have we thought of putting this in the San Jose Mercury? | MARVA1::POWELL | Arranging bits for a living... | Fri Aug 12 1994 17:19 | 12 |
| But the ad was missing a critical piece of info:
Digital Equipment Corporation is the world's leader in open
client/server solutions from personal computing to integrated
worldwide information systems. Digital's scalable Alpha AXP
platforms, storage, networking, software and services, together
with industry-focused solutions from business partners, help
organizations compete and win in today's global marketplace.
We put this in EVERY press release, why not our ads?
Or does anyone really believe this???
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3319.34 | committeeSpeak | WRKSYS::SCHUMANN | UHF computers | Fri Aug 12 1994 17:37 | 4 |
| re .33
Thankfully, we didn't include this content-free drivel in the ad.
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3319.35 | ..and arrogant | HLDE01::VUURBOOM_R | Roelof Vuurboom @ APD, DTN 829 4066 | Sun Aug 14 1994 04:46 | 11 |
| Hear. Hear.
This "leader" bit and "leadership technology" blurbs are immediate
turnoffs. It not only sounds arrogant (which it is) but
when it comes from a company that is in serious trouble and
fighting to find its right place in life it sounds pitiful.
Great technology, ok. But a leader is only a leader when others
proclaim him or her to be a leader otherwise he or she may just
be a lonely man (or woman) in the desert...
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3319.36 | Good Ad | HLDE01::VUURBOOM_R | Roelof Vuurboom @ APD, DTN 829 4066 | Sun Aug 14 1994 04:49 | 4 |
|
> AMAZING what a little advertising will do!
AMAZING what a little top class advertising will do...
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3319.37 | | BONKIN::BOYLE | Tony. Melbourne, Australia | Sun Aug 14 1994 07:09 | 8 |
| It sounds like a good ad but since the world obviously ends on the east
coast of the USA we won't see it here.
Has this ad been written by the new advertising company we've hired or
by the old one? (*or* did someone in Digital Marketing dream it up?).
Have we decided on a new advertising company yet?
Tony.
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3319.38 | | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Sun Aug 14 1994 08:57 | 3 |
| Has the ad been translated into French yet? I would guess that
anything up to 5% of our customers read "Le Monde", but I had never
heard of that California newspaper until this string of replies.
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3319.39 | Looking forward to seeing it... | MUNDIS::SSHERMAN | Steve Sherman @MFR | Sun Aug 14 1994 10:48 | 3 |
| Anybody know when the ad is scheduled to appear in Europe?
Steve
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3319.40 | | CSC32::D_RODRIGUEZ | Midnight Falcon ... | Sun Aug 14 1994 17:14 | 15 |
| So who did the ad? Marketing or a 3rd party ad agency?
Nicely done.
I looked at the WSJ ad posted on a bulletin board and
saw 1 miniscule nit ...
There is a nice 'Client/Server' cut-away cube diagram that
displayed NT, VMS, and OSF and how OSF runs on ALPHA RISC,
VMS ran both ALPHA RISC and CISC technology and NT on INTEL
CISC.
... Did not show that NT runs on ALPHA. I guess it could
have cluttered the picture a bit.
(I did say miniscule ...)
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3319.41 | | RUSURE::MELVIN | Ten Zero, Eleven Zero Zero by Zero 2 | Sun Aug 14 1994 19:55 | 4 |
| > AMAZING what a little top class advertising will do...
What, exactly, HAS it done? Are results pouring in already or is it your
hope that it will do good things?
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3319.42 | This Little Light of Mine . . . | SNOFS1::POOLE | Over the Rainbow | Sun Aug 14 1994 20:58 | 16 |
| Re: Attitude Change.
I too have noticed a dramatic change in attitude in this notes
conference. I have also seen it spread around our office, starting
from those folks I know who read this conference.
However, it did not start with the ad campaign. I haven't seen it in
Australia. It started with
the re-birth of a single person in Chicago who had the courage to tell
the DECWorld that he was starting to see the light.
Greyhawk - Say G'day to anyone in Chicago who might still remember me.
Bill
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3319.43 | | ICS::BEAN | Attila the Hun was a LIBERAL! | Mon Aug 15 1994 08:49 | 6 |
| re: -1
bill...
i observed the same thing... isn't it 'friggin amazing?
t.
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3319.44 | Attitudes Is Important | HLDE01::VUURBOOM_R | Roelof Vuurboom @ APD, DTN 829 4066 | Mon Aug 15 1994 10:08 | 23 |
|
>> AMAZING what a little top class advertising will do...
>What, exactly, HAS it done? Are results pouring in already or is it your
>hope that it will do good things?
What it has done is show (the beginnings of) an _attitude_ change.
It _doesn't_ say "we've doubled our alpha sales why wait?" (in
other words, we're the greatest and the latest)
but "we've doubled our alpha sales and we're working
hard to correct our mistakes, the most important
being lack of focus to you the customer".
This IS a major result. Put another way, this is the very first
ad where I didn't think Digital either had its head way up where the
sun don't shine or waist deep in mud. It also explicitly acknowledges
what customers have been complaining of over and over and over again.
And acknowledging is the first step in correcting. Ask any AA goer.
Aggressiveness, knowledge and a lack of arrogance can
be a powerful combination.
re roelof
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3319.45 | AD was great, but what about the pictures??? | ASDG::CORLISS | | Mon Aug 15 1994 11:49 | 8 |
| Can anyone enlighten me on the symbolism of the lone chair, sitting
near the overgrown tree in a planter picture? (upper left picture
in the advert.) I understand the "re-birth" symbolism of the sunlight
and clouds picture, but for the life of me I can't figure the other one out.
DC
p.s. I think this AD is a significant move in the right direction.
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3319.46 | Life After DEC? | BABAGI::CRESSEY | | Mon Aug 15 1994 12:50 | 6 |
| Wow, I haven't seen the Ad yet, but the more I read these descriptions,
the more it sounds like ...
A Near - DEC experience
Dave
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3319.47 | | MBALDY::LANGSTON | our middle name is 'Equipment' | Mon Aug 15 1994 13:16 | 5 |
| I wouldn't look to find some significant symbolism in every detail in the ad,
especially the pictures. I think the picture in the top left is simply to
symbolize growth or life.
Bruce
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3319.48 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Mon Aug 15 1994 14:00 | 6 |
| Terry Shannon (an industry analyst) wondered (in an Internet newsgroup
posting) whether the tree had been "fertilized with previous DEC marketing
swill". I jokingly responded that no, it was composted DEC rumors from
newspapers and trade rags....
Steve
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3319.49 | | ODIXIE::BENSON | | Mon Aug 15 1994 15:19 | 9 |
| .45
I don't know about the chair but to me the tree represents the
significant growth in the areas mentioned in the ad. The size of the
tree compared to its container may represent the significant size of
our growth compared to what one might expect considering our recent
troubles (or considering the rhetoric of our competitors).
jeff
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3319.50 | | GRANMA::MWANNEMACHER | daddyneverwasthecadillackind | Mon Aug 15 1994 15:48 | 7 |
|
Are we trying to get our message across via advertising or are we holding
an art exhibit which is subject to interpretation?
Mike
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3319.51 | Where's the Planter? | USCTR1::JOSBACHER | Wild Growth is a modifier | Mon Aug 15 1994 15:54 | 12 |
| Re .45:
I think the "planter" is a desk, and I'm not sure whether the tree is
in the background or part of the shrub.
With the chair away from the desk, the image is one of "no one's been
around to tend to the growing business on the desk."
I'd hate for the "planning on a come-back" phrase to be associated with
the plans on the desk.
Frank
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3319.52 | Newton's Theory | ELMAGO::AWILLETO | R U Green? | Mon Aug 15 1994 16:10 | 1 |
| Is the tree an "apple" tree...
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3319.53 | | DEMOAX::GINGER | Ron Ginger | Mon Aug 15 1994 17:14 | 7 |
| Does anyone know why this ad has no call to action? no phone number, no
'call your local office' or how to contact a distributor, or even our
name? not even the corporate address, or a stock market symbol, just a
digital block logo.
I guess since our name are logo are such a household word we dont need
any more identification.
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3319.54 | SJMN? | POWDML::SMCCONNELL | Next year, in Jerusalem! | Mon Aug 15 1994 17:21 | 6 |
| So - will it make it to the San Jose Mercury News? Who is responsible
for making that decision? Does he/she read this file?
The ad is impressive!
Steve
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3319.55 | | DRIFT::WOOD | Laughter is the best medicine | Mon Aug 15 1994 17:26 | 5 |
| FYI, the ad appears in the August 15th issue of Digital Today.
Nice job!
John
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3319.56 | | BONKIN::BOYLE | Tony. Melbourne, Australia | Tue Aug 16 1994 01:44 | 3 |
| Is this the work of the new advertising bureau we were due to hire?
When last I heard we were down to a choice of 2 companies.
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3319.57 | | PNTAGN::WARRENFELTZR | | Tue Aug 16 1994 08:01 | 3 |
| even a last place team wins one every so often, our key is can we climb
to BEST IN CLASS with a reputable marketing firm...maybe we can reclaim
#3?
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3319.58 | should be obvious | ASDG::TREMBLAY | | Tue Aug 16 1994 10:38 | 7 |
| I agree with .51. The tree appears to be in the background and the
planter looks like a desk...perhaps an old empty wooden desk from the
Mill...maybe even KO's...with moss growing high on it. Seriously,
don't read too much into the pictures. If they are supposed to
symbolize something, it should be obvious, or the ad fails. I think we
could have something here.
JT
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3319.59 | | POWDML::SMCCONNELL | Next year, in Jerusalem! | Tue Aug 16 1994 11:41 | 5 |
| The tree on the desk communicates monstrous growth (at least, it does
to me). The "clouds" shot is obvious.
Great ad - I really hope it helps change some percpetions out there and
encourage folks to give Digital a second look...
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3319.60 | Growth & Education...me thinks | NYEM1::CRANE | | Tue Aug 16 1994 13:02 | 2 |
| I think Rivier College uses the tree as a symbol of growth?? some one
please correct me if I`m wrong?
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3319.61 | a view from a different window | CSC32::D_RODRIGUEZ | Midnight Falcon ... | Tue Aug 16 1994 22:12 | 6 |
|
The tree symbolizes HP.
The empty chair symbolizes a Digital field service rep, after
getting a bit tired of seeing that tree grow, has up and left
for an axe (standard issue) in the car. ;*)
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3319.62 | See me at Christmas | POBOX::CORSON | Higher, and a bit more to the right | Wed Aug 17 1994 17:06 | 23 |
|
Wasn't going to say anything in this conference thread. I think it's
great you like the ads. They are different. People should'nt give me
too much credit, this place still manages to drive me nuts half the
time. But things is looking up...
I love our PCs, and Sable is a real server, not one of those
wimpy 486 multicard "I'll process when I'm damn good and ready" things.
The jury is still out on Alpha workstations, But VMS will still be
in use when everybody reading this note is long gone, and their kids
are collecting social security.
Other than that,...:-)
BTW, the tree is Microsoft's, the lone chair is mine. And I use
the planter to hold all my money when I'm not in Las Vegas.....
G'Day, mates
the Greyhawk
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3319.63 | It's great, a morale booster - even if it is only the first one! | SUBURB::POWELLM | Nostalgia isn't what it used to be! | Thu Aug 18 1994 08:53 | 12 |
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I like the Ad. in the Financial Times so much, and find it so
encouraging, that I have fixed a copy on the cupboards outside my cube
for all to see. Unfortunately, most people rush past and fail to see
it is there, much less stop to look at the headlines even.
It is the first really positive advert. from DIGITAL that I have
seen in the 21 years I have been in the company! It makes me feel good
about the company and looking forward to a future. It has lifted my
morale out of the mire a little - still some way to go though!
Malcolm (in REO D1).
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3319.64 | Customers Appreciate it too! | GRANMA::MMURRAY | so many notes, so little time | Thu Aug 18 1994 09:19 | 10 |
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Hay,
Its not only lifted your morale, but I've heard customers say:
'GEEZZZZ DEC (yes they don't care what we call ourselves)
ITS ABOUT D*MN TIME! GOOD STUFF!'
'You know its kinda hard to get my management to invest in
a company that looks like its going under.'
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3319.65 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Thu Aug 18 1994 11:04 | 5 |
| The ad ran again in the Boston Globe today. Why? I'd think the money would
be better spent running it elsewhere. It's not the sort of ad that really
needs running multiple times.
Steve
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3319.66 | In praise of continuity | LEDS::OLSEN | | Thu Aug 18 1994 12:50 | 31 |
| IMHO, not from courses but from growing up in a family where the rest
of them worked on/near Madison Ave....
An ad which shows once, conveys a much different message than an ad
which stays before you.
Imagine: Coke withdraws all signs and spots. Intel stops all ads, and
only shows their name "inside" the box. Churches move into office
buildings, with no name on the door. Within weeks, you'd find it
easier and easier to imagine life without them. Within months, you'd
be asking, "did something fall apart at xxx?". Have you noticed how
thouroughly a movie is publicized. Only one ad, once? Give it a
break!
It was even a mantra in advertizing: to simply even hold market share,
you must target advertising to keep your name in front of your present
customers.
DEC acted as if they could afford to ignore everybody else's hard-won
experience in making advertizing work. Then, in one of the recurring
industry cycles when startups grow like weeds, proliferate, then die
off, in one of these cycles we failed to differentiate ourselves
favorably, and DEC died (metaphorically) instead.
Having seen us roll over once (as DEC), the market wouldn't be surprised
if Digital disappeared, too. Keep up the good work, you struggling
advertizing folk. Don't disappear tomorrow, next week, next month.
Make us visible even next year. Pick at least some media where our ads
bring up fresh viewpoints, month after month. Exemplify continuity.
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3319.67 | Consistent Advertising | ASABET::TROY | | Thu Aug 18 1994 14:30 | 11 |
| re.66
Couldn't have said it better myself. Spending a lot of money in
creative development and running ads only a couple of times essentially
is a waste. The goal is to surround the target audiences with
consistent messages for impact and staying power. You will see this
campaign move from newspaper implementation to more and more magazines
as we enter the last week of August and into September. Most of the
international rollout also occurs in this later August timeframe.
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3319.68 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Thu Aug 18 1994 17:01 | 3 |
| Ok by me, as long as we're spreading it out.
Steve
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3319.69 | | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Fri Aug 19 1994 06:01 | 2 |
| It's reasonable to hold the French version until September - France
is on holiday until then.
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3319.70 | "San Jose Mercury News added" | ASABET::TROY | | Tue Aug 23 1994 08:53 | 3 |
|
The San Jose MErcury News will have the "Comeback" ad placed once a
week for the next 4 weeks - I believe starting this Thursday.
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3319.71 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Tue Aug 23 1994 10:28 | 4 |
| I'm looking forward to seeing the follow-up ads. This particular ad is not
the kind that is useful to run too often.
Steve
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3319.72 | | CALDEC::GOETZE | When you get to the top of a mountain, keep climbing. | Tue Aug 23 1994 14:43 | 4 |
| The San Jose Mercury News has this ad in a two page spread today,
in the main section of the newspaper, pages 6A-7A. Thanks!
erik
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3319.73 | | AYOV20::MRENNISON | Waiting for hell to freeze over | Tue Aug 23 1994 14:55 | 4 |
| Is it true that the guy who presented those ads at the Management
get-together has left Digital ?
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3319.74 | | POBOX::RILEY | I *am* the D.J. | Tue Aug 23 1994 21:51 | 8 |
| Is there any chance someone can scan in this ad everyone keeps talking
about and make it available on the net?
I'd like to see it, but the chances of me finding these papers at this
point in time are pretty slim.
Thanks
Bob
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3319.75 | | CALDEC::GOETZE | When you get to the top of a mountain, keep climbing. | Tue Aug 23 1994 23:23 | 7 |
| re: .74
I have already done this as part of a project I'm working on;
am in the process of posting the results to the network and
will put a pointer in the next day or two here.
erik
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3319.76 | Check Digital Today | NEMAIL::YATES | | Wed Aug 24 1994 09:40 | 6 |
| re: .74 check the "Digital Today, August 15 - the center fold shows
the ad you are looking for.
Hope this helps.
Ollie
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3319.77 | "Communications=ConsistencyXFrequency | ASABET::TROY | | Wed Aug 24 1994 10:03 | 8 |
| re: .71
Steve,
All the research on how many times ads should run contradict your
assertion; there will be other ads in the series but this is a core
message that will run for a while longer to ensure it is seen and
reinforced 5 to 6 times by the audiences.
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3319.78 | Yeah, right.... | GENRAL::KILGORE | One Sky, One Earth, One People | Wed Aug 24 1994 10:39 | 8 |
| RE: -< Check Digital Today >-
>> re: .74 check the "Digital Today, August 15 - the center fold shows
>> the ad you are looking for.
I haven't seen one of those in the Colorado Springs facility in about 6-7
months! They use to be in the south lobby for employees to pick up. None
since January/February timeframe.
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3319.79 | new 'computing' editor for SHMN | FHOHUB::EYAK::DEVINE | | Wed Aug 24 1994 10:57 | 11 |
|
attention all you San Hose Mercury News readers, you will (or may have
already) be getting a new 'computing editor'. He is Dan Gillmore, most
recently the computing editor from the Detroit Free Press 'Business
Monday' magazine. the Michigan Workstation Sales team were in the
process of getting him an AXP 150 (NT) for evaluation when he announced
he was leaving for the SHMN. perhaps one of you workstation sales
'specialists' on the left coast could contact him and pick up where
we left off....
/kd
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3319.80 | I think this has been said before | CADSYS::RITCHIE | Gotta love log homes | Wed Aug 24 1994 11:53 | 3 |
| See Livewire. It's still in there today, but may leave soon.
Elaine
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3319.81 | | PNTAGN::WARRENFELTZR | | Thu Aug 25 1994 10:18 | 12 |
| I'll go back to my original contention that we need a Digital Corporate
Spokesperson.
One idea would be to make BP the spokeperson a la Lee Iaccoco and an ad
would feature BP sitting at an Alpha AXP workstation and simply state:
"You may not know me or my company. I'm Bob Palmer, CEO at Digital
Equipment. Before I'm finished, I'll make sure you know who I am and
who my company is..."
BP turns his head to the monitor, hits a button on the keyboard, and
ZOOM, just like that, they both disappear off with dust flying, etc...
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3319.82 | DDB Needham chosen as primary ad agency | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Thu Aug 25 1994 11:44 | 42 |
| Digital - Names DDB Needham as lead worldwide strategic/creative partner
{Livewire, Worldwide News, 24-Aug-94}
Digital today named DDB Needham Worldwide as the lead strategic/creative
partner for its worldwide advertising account. Headquartered in New York
City, DDB Needham will drive the company's integrated communications strategy,
as well as develop and position global brand campaigns in support of corporate
and business unit branding efforts.
Young & Rubicam, also headquartered in New York City, will continue to
implement PC Business Unit advertising, working collaboratively with DDB
Needham.
"A singular corporate voice reflected in a powerful worldwide brand
reinforces the positive attributes associated with the company it represents,"
commented Robert B. Palmer, Digital's president and chief executive officer.
"These are critically important tools for staying in touch with the people who
matter most -- customers. We are confident that DDB Needham will ensure that
Digital's strategies and the value we bring to customers are clearly
articulated in the global marketplace."
"The main objective of our search was to identify a firm with proven
capability to create outstanding, relevant brand-building advertising, that
could effectively move brand strategy across international borders, and best
demonstrate its ability to become a long-term strategic partner to Digital,"
said Charlie Holleran, vice president, Communications. "DDB Needham, with its
extensive international network and strong capabilities in brand positioning
and strategy, is the worldwide marketing partner Digital set out to find."
In addition to further supporting and integrating Digital's worldwide
branding efforts, DDB Needham also will provide a strategic and conceptual
foundation for other non-advertising marketing communications activities and
programs.
In a related announcement, Digital also named Maritz, Inc., of Fenton, Mo.,
and The Ryan Partnership of Westport, Conn. as the new lead agencies to
implement non-advertising marketing communications services and to work
collaboratively with DDB Needham. Building on the strategic foundation
established by DDB Needham, Maritz, Inc., and The Ryan Partnership will
support Digital's divisions, territories, business units, and channels
partners with a broad range of non-advertising marketing services and total
project management capabilities.
The Ryan Partnership and Maritz, Inc., have the capabilities to provide
services in market research, communication strategy development, sales
promotion, and programs for reseller and retail markets. In addition, both
agencies have the capabilities to support sales training, events marketing,
direct marketing, telemarketing, fulfillment, and promotional materials
development.
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3319.83 | one-plus | DYPSS1::DYSERT | Barry - Custom Software Development | Thu Aug 25 1994 12:08 | 18 |
| Re: Note 3319.81 by PNTAGN::WARRENFELTZR
� One idea would be to make BP the spokeperson a la Lee Iaccoco and an ad
� would feature BP sitting at an Alpha AXP workstation and simply state:
�
� "You may not know me or my company. I'm Bob Palmer, CEO at Digital
� Equipment. Before I'm finished, I'll make sure you know who I am and
� who my company is..."
I like it! I would, however, disagree with the last part of the idea:
� BP turns his head to the monitor, hits a button on the keyboard, and
� ZOOM, just like that, they both disappear off with dust flying, etc...
Having him disappear into the distance may convey exactly the wrong
idea, if you know what I mean.
BD�
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3319.84 | | VMSVTP::S_WATTUM | OSI Applications Engineering, West | Thu Aug 25 1994 12:19 | 8 |
| > Having him disappear into the distance may convey exactly the wrong
> idea, if you know what I mean.
Easy to solve. As he zooms off, tie trailing across the shoulder and
blowing in the the wind behind him, the camera pulls back to reveal a
race track, and we watch as Bob zips past similarly attired/outfitted people
with Intel(tm), PowerPC(tm), etc. painted on their backs; and the viewer
watches as they eat our dust!
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3319.85 | Does a Porsche convey eliteism?? | AYOV18::AYRDAM::DAGLEISHP | DM, an enabler for successful OO... | Thu Aug 25 1994 12:36 | 4 |
| How about having him drive a Carrerra Turbo ( instead of his 928 )
while the rest are driving Ford Escorts ( small compacts here in the UK )
The Turbo has the Digital logo etc.
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3319.86 | | YIELD::HARRIS | | Thu Aug 25 1994 14:19 | 4 |
| The only problem is it might be Ken Olsen in one of those Escorts.
(Ford sell Escorts in the US also, although they aren't the same car)
-Bruce
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3319.87 | URL address | CALDEC::GOETZE | When you get to the top of a mountain, keep climbing. | Fri Aug 26 1994 11:08 | 10 |
|
The aforementioned ad can be viewed using the World Wide Web (internally
use only for now) at
URL: http://art.pa.dec.com/ads/cb/comeback-ad.html
See What's New on Digital's Web for a more complete announcement of the
on-line ads.
erik
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3319.88 | | SSAG::TERZA | Home of the Save Set Manager | Fri Aug 26 1994 11:29 | 7 |
|
I just looked at this. This is actually pretty cool.
Well Done!
Terza L. Z. Ekholm
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3319.89 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Fri Aug 26 1994 12:52 | 4 |
| "Pretty cool" is an understatement. This is fantastic! I assume it is
going to go "external" soon? I hope????
Steve
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3319.90 | | CALDEC::GOETZE | When you get to the top of a mountain, keep climbing. | Fri Aug 26 1994 13:17 | 3 |
| That's the intention.
erik
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3319.91 | GREAT ADS! | GRANMA::JBOBB | Janet Bobb dtn:339-5755 | Fri Aug 26 1994 14:44 | 8 |
| Just went through the ads on - they look great - thanks for putting
them on the Web so we could look at them!
I like the way they look. The CALL xxxxDigital (with the 1-800 in much
smaller font) is good. If this is the work of the new agency, then
someone made a very good choice!
janetb.
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3319.92 | "Just us digits" | ASABET::TROY | | Fri Aug 26 1994 18:36 | 16 |
| Nope - this is the work of us ol' digits in Communications and IT.
Erik did a great job getting the creative to look so good on line.
The 2100 Server and 3000/900Workstation ads were created by Ketchum
Communications, working with us in Advertising and the Alpha Program Office.
These ads are running today worldwide, mostly in the IT books
(Computerworld, ComputerReseller News, etc.)
As we bring DDB Needham on board to lead our advertising work - I am already
acquainting them with the capability we are piloting right now. We will
get to having our ads in print and on line in parallel processes. The
immediacy of getting brochures, fact sheets, etc. via the Web we hope
will help move sales cycles along more quickly.
Bill
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3319.93 | | BBRDGE::LOVELL | � l'eau; c'est l'heure | Mon Aug 29 1994 06:42 | 11 |
|
Excellent work on the WWW rendition of this Marcom stuff! All
Digital offices should have a workstation in reception allowing
visitors to browse this material - it is a very professional
display of some of the best ad material that I've seen for a long
time.
Kudos to Erik, the Digital MArcom people and all the external
creative talent.
/Chris.
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3319.94 | Office? What office? ;-) | USHS01::HARDMAN | Sucker for what the cowgirls do... | Mon Aug 29 1994 09:25 | 11 |
| >Excellent work on the WWW rendition of this Marcom stuff! All
>Digital offices should have a workstation in reception allowing
Great idea, but by the end of September there won't *BE* very many
Digital offices. Most of the field offices are being closed in a cost
saving effort. The folks now working in them will be working from their
homes.
Harry (who's been providing field service from his home for over 4
years now)
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3319.95 | "On line more important for Home Offices" | ASABET::TROY | | Mon Aug 29 1994 10:52 | 7 |
|
On line distribution of materials should become more important with
folks working out of their homes. We also see value in having these
ads available for viewing by our reseller and software partners.
This should ad impetus to Sales folks having INTERNET ready
capabilities on their PC's.
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