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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

3280.0. "Here's how to cut expenses. Huh!?" by TENNIS::KAM (Kam USDS (714)261-4133 (DTN 535) IVO) Fri Jul 29 1994 17:50

I know we're heard and discussed this before but I still can 
understand how the individual(s) who dictate this policy 
justify it?  I was over at one of our PC competitors talking to 
their management and they indicated that in their Company this
would NOT be tolerated.  WE have a handle on our expenses.

I need to make 100 slides so I went to facilities.  They 
indicated that they don't supply this anymore and if we need 
supplies we are suppose to go directly to a stationary store 
and purchase them.  I know for a fact that DEC gets supplies
for a lot less cost than if I went to the same stationary store 
because of a volume discount agreement.  We did in the past 
anyways.  

Therefore, we cut expenses by not having facilities order anything
in quantities, however, expenses from individual contributors 
increases because they're purchasing all the supplies and at higher
cost.

And finally, I once remember my manager saying - expense it as
as meal also.  Then I said - sure so you can have justification
to fire me for illegally expensing meals.

Anyone know who dictates the policy of facilities NOT ordering
supplies?


	Regards,

	 kam 

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3280.1Semi-facetious theory...SWAM2::GOLDMAN_MABlondes have more Brains!Fri Jul 29 1994 18:5519
    Kam, no one knows who comes up with these hair-brained ideas (see
    note 3262, "frozen paper"...) anymore.  Personally, I think the logic
    goes something like this:
    
    1.	If good people have the right tools to do their jobs, they will be
    successful, therefore -
    
    2.	If we take away the tools (paper, transparencies, pens, printer
    kits, folders, labels, etc., etc.,), then people will not be able to do
    their jobs well and will become unsuccessful, therefore -
    
    3.	Since they do not significantly contribute to our profitability, we
    should TFSO the lot of them!
    
    It's a huge conspiracy to justify more layoffs!! !!
    
    Only half kidding...but still -:) anyway,
    
    M.
3280.2cutting the REAL expense...CSC32::C_DUNNINGFri Jul 29 1994 20:024
    Re. -1, A layoff I would welcome...but from what I can gather it seems
    like the company is trying to frustrate people to the point of simply
    quitting. 
    
3280.3TENNIS::KAMKam USDS (714)261-4133 (DTN 535) IVOFri Jul 29 1994 22:3814
    Once a quarter we cut 2000 transparencies.
       2000 transparencies / 50 transparencies per box x $22.00 per box = $880
       2000 transparencies / 50 transparencies per box x $ 4.40 per box = $176
                                             difference/per quarter       $704
    
       Note: $22 is DECdirect pricing.  We got them outside at $28 per box.
    
    We pay an additional $2,816.00 per year.  This is one group, one site
    that is doing this.  However, the Company thinks cost center XYZ at
    site IVO spent $0.00 on supplies because there was NO facilities
    cross-charges for supplies.  Looks good but we actually lost money.
    
    
    	     
3280.4VANGA::KERRELLHakuna matata!Mon Aug 01 1994 06:2411
I've seen a lot of this over the last few years. A central function, set up 
to take advantage of economies of scale, is put under pressure to cut 
costs. So they stop providing a service. We still need the service, so not 
only do our costs increase because of loss of discounting but many 
employees are now engaged in the purchasing activity with varying degrees 
of success and frustration. There seems to be some kind of belief amongst
managers that we are all wasting resources and that if individuals have to
make the purchasing decision we'll spend less. Maybe we will but at what 
damage to the business?

Dave.
3280.5NPSS::BRANAMSteve, Network Product SupportMon Aug 01 1994 12:589
You guys just aren't thinking laterally! If you go give training, you
expect the audience to pay for training costs. If you give a speech,
you expect the audience to pay admission and speaking fees (at least
if you are Ronald Reagan...). So put the two together. You want to
give a presentation to (choose your favorite audience, current or
potential customers, your upper management, your industry peers, etc.),
charge 'em for the honor! You don't need to get fancy, just drink a
Coke and set the empty can by the door. I wouldn't accept less than
a quarter from each attendee.
3280.6damned if you do, andLGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 297-5780, MRO3-3/L16)Mon Aug 01 1994 14:4316
re Note 3280.4 by VANGA::KERRELL:

> There seems to be some kind of belief amongst
> managers that we are all wasting resources and that if individuals have to
> make the purchasing decision we'll spend less. 

        Paradoxically, in situations where individual managers
        already made purchasing decisions, e.g., travel and 3rd-party
        software, there was a belief that we were all wasting
        resources and that by requiring more centralized VP approval
        we would spend less.

        The operational principle seemed to be "whatever we were
        doing, try something else".

        Bob