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3264.1 | | LACULT::BIAZZO | Digital has had it Now. | Fri Jul 22 1994 13:05 | 5 |
| You have just highlighted the chief problem which remains at this company
and threatens to continue to plague its recovery.
As far as Palmer's DVN, I unfortunately I cannot share your enthusiasm.
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3264.2 | Discipline, baby..... | UNYEM::GIBBONSJ | | Fri Jul 22 1994 13:47 | 17 |
| BP referred to the problem as "Matrix Management"; more to the point,
the problem is a lack of discipline.
For those who can remember 2 reorgs ago, the unanimous decision was to
become industry focused. BP said it failed because we had this matrix
management problem. The real reason it failed - and I can clearly
remember the territory and account fights - is because, as a company,
we have no discipline.
KO used to say that freedom required discipline. He was right. Don't
be surprised to see IBM overcome "their" matrix problem and succeed
in their effort to become industry focused. It won't be their people,
and it certainly won't be their technology, and despite a hodge podge
of legacy system environments, their success will be based on one thing
- discipline.
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3264.3 | The Digital Nod | ASDG::TREMBLAY | | Fri Jul 22 1994 14:03 | 5 |
| Bob noted that during past reorgs, his plans were given the
"Digital Nod". I understood this to mean something similar to "yah,
right". Management acknowledged his efforts to reorganize, then
continued "business as usual".
JT
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3264.4 | I know i've said this before, but . . . | TOOK::DELBALSO | I (spade) my (dog face) | Fri Jul 22 1994 14:40 | 11 |
| > Bob noted that during past reorgs, his plans were given the
> "Digital Nod". I understood this to mean something similar to "yah,
> right". Management acknowledged his efforts to reorganize, then
> continued "business as usual".
If, as a manager, I don't see to it that management directives are
carried out by my direct reports satisfactorily, it is my duty to
deal with the insubordinates, or I am failing in my responsibilities.
Apparently Bob works to a different ethic?
-Jack
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3264.5 | WE ARE NOT DEC. WE ARE NOT DEC. WE ARE N | ANGLIN::ALLER | | Fri Jul 22 1994 14:43 | 9 |
| RE.- LAST
Minor nit..
Bob said "DEC Nod". An obvious attempt to distance the new DIGITAL
from the old DEC.
Cheers
Jon
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3264.6 | BP works for us!! | ANGLIN::PATCHEN | | Fri Jul 22 1994 16:11 | 12 |
| I once had the opportunity to listen and meet BP. I remember to
this day the following:
"You do not work for me, I work for you."
He believes that managers (all) should set forth and remove "all"
barriers from our success.
Seen any lately?????
Regards,
Rick
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3264.7 | couldn't resist | POBOX::BATTIS | I don't want to be like you,Mordicai | Fri Jul 22 1994 16:17 | 4 |
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Barriers or Success??
Mark
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3264.8 | I want some | SIERAS::MCCLUSKY | | Fri Jul 22 1994 17:00 | 4 |
| If you saw any success in Digital, please forward your smoking material
and instructions on viewing the stock price favorably.
Thanks.
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3264.9 | Ford going to Matrix Management | GLDOA::CUTLER | Car Topin' On The Cumberland | Fri Jul 22 1994 19:59 | 19 |
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We're going away from Matrix management which in my opinion is
great. Ever since I joined Digital, I have never liked, the Matrix
management, constant re-organizations, changing of direction, lack
of "accountability and clear product direction/strategy". I believe
that "Digital" has some of the "best"..."most creative"...and
"talented" people in the industry. This (elimination of Matrix)
management, I think is one "Bright Spot" folks. We need some of those.
But, at the same time, I find it interesting, that Ford Motor
Company is
currently going through some major re-organizing (consolidation of
Engineering, manufacturing between Ford of Europe and US operations)
and the new "Ford" will have in place ....... "Matrix Management".
Rick
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3264.10 | Fire 'em all...today!!! | POBOX::CORSON | Higher, and a bit more to the right | Sat Jul 23 1994 12:34 | 2 |
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3264.11 | Tactical expertise when the finget starts to pointt | MPGS::CWHITE | Parrot_Trooper | Sun Jul 24 1994 10:23 | 10 |
| I don't think we need to fire em all!.............
JUST THE ONES THAT HAVE RE-ROGED more than THREE TIMES in the last two
years!
;^)
chet........who used to work in MCSD where re-org was a 'tactic'.
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3264.12 | Good suggestion .11 | POBOX::CORSON | Higher, and a bit more to the right | Sun Jul 24 1994 14:24 | 8 |
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Hey Chet - just like I said - that would be all of them. Maybe
minus two or three US wide.
I'd love to think what would happen if good ICs had those jobs, and
the corporate capabilities to make them really fly. I'd run out and buy
all the DEC stock I could afford then; but not until.
the Greyhawk
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3264.13 | | VANGA::KERRELL | Hakuna matata! | Mon Jul 25 1994 05:08 | 10 |
| re.0:
> Why oh why does this attitude not seem to flow down through other
> management especially here in thr U.K
I think Chris Conway and Alan Blank have very positive attitudes. If they
are representive of the UK TMT then we have nothing to worry about there.
Perhaps you were refering to a local issue, rather than a UK wide problem?
Dave.
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3264.14 | View from Sales | YUPPY::PATEMAN | Some Fantastic Place | Mon Jul 25 1994 06:27 | 12 |
| Ref 0
I agree with Dave in -1 (this is not UK Cars eh Dave? :-) ).
The UK has already implemented most of the changes to the "front end"
of sales with around 140 accounts directly managed (being reduced this
fiscal to 100-ish) and the geography branches working channels.
Conway presented the changes to the sales force last week at Summer
School and the general concensus was very positive.
Paul
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3264.15 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | A-mazed on the info Highway! | Wed Aug 03 1994 05:35 | 10 |
| Opinion follows:
Actually, I think the fundamental problem that DEC has had over the
years is much more simple than Matrix Management, Business Structures,
and all the other things that have been regularly reorganised. No, the
true problem is a widespread and total lack of accountability from
base-level management right through to the SLT. There are some
exceptions, and I work in one of them.
Laurie.
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