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3173.1 | | BALZAC::STURT | Totally wired | Thu Jun 16 1994 07:46 | 4 |
| Good stuff. Keep it up.
BTW, we still have an 'open door' policy, but it's just not what it
used to be...
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3173.2 | Could we also have the French version... | ARDEV::SHEA | | Thu Jun 16 1994 10:04 | 4 |
| Rearding 3173.0, could you also post the French version of the
memo.
Thks.
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3173.3 | | ZOLA::AHACHE | Magic happens if you let it | Thu Jun 16 1994 11:48 | 3 |
|
Bravo! Bravo! pour les fran�ais...
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3173.4 | | HLFS00::CHARLES | chasing running applications | Thu Jun 16 1994 12:00 | 4 |
| re.3 It seems you overlooked the fact that there were colleagues from
Germany, Austria and Italy present as well.
Charles
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3173.5 | Here is your French lesson of the day - | JURA::SIMARD::DUQUESNE | Daniel - ex FYO - next ??? | Thu Jun 16 1994 12:07 | 138 |
|
COMMUNICATION DU COMITE D'ENTREPRISE EUROPEEN de Digital
MESSAGE EN FRANCAIS ET ANGLAIS
******************************************************************
MANIFESTATION POUR L'EMPLOI le 08 Juin A GENEVE - UN GRAND SUCCES
******************************************************************
SOUS UN SOLEIL TROPICAL AU RYTHME DE LA SAMBA ET DES CENTAINES
DE SIFFLETS....
Environ 300 salari�s de Digital venant de France, d'Italie,
d'Allemagne, et d'Autriche ont manifest� mercredi 8 juin devant le
si�ge europ�en de Gen�ve.
Ils ont manifest� contre les licenciements massifs pr�vus
(6000 en Europe et 20.000 de plus annonc�s dans le monde entier)
et les restructurations qui mettent en p�ril toute la Soci�t�.
Apr�s plusieurs gr�ves de protestation contre les licenciements
dans diverses filiales en France, en Italie et en Allemagne (en 93)
le Comit� d'Entreprise Europ�en de Digital, un conseil compos�
de repr�sentants de 10 pays europ�ens a lanc� cette action
au niveau Europ�en. La gestion de la soci�t� est de plus en
plus centralis�e et toutes les d�cisions majeures sont prises �
un niveau Europ�en, voire mondial.
Les manifestants - soutenus par leurs syndicats locaux,
entre autres une d�l�gation CFDT des Alpes Maritimes et de plusieurs
r�gions de France, la FIM (F�d�ration Internationale de la M�tallurgie)
et EuroFiet (Association de syndicats de cadres - F�d�ration
Internationale des Employ�s Techniques) ont revendiqu� :
- l'arr�t de tous licenciements secs
- des mesures alternatives cr�atives telles que le temps partag�,
la r�duction du temps de travail par semaine, plus de temps
partiel, des cong�s sabbatiques, red�ploiement par la formation etc..
- maintien des conditions sociales et financi�res des plans sociaux
pr�c�demment offertes
- l'implication des salari�s de Digital dans le processus
de r�organisation de l'entreprise pour rassurer la fid�le
client�le de Digital, d�velopper de nouveaux domaines et de
nouveaux march�s et sauver des emplois.
- le d�marrage d'un vrai dialogue social autour de ces points
pour sauvegarder les emplois et la Compagnie.
Une p�tition de plus de 1500 salari�s en France a �t� �galement
envoy�e � M. Damiani.
Malgr� la crise qui ne peut qu'�tre r�solue par l'implication
des salari�s, la direction Europ�enne refuse de d�marrer ce
dialogue au niveau Europ�en. Aucun directeur responsable de ce
niveau europ�en n'a eu le courage de venir discuter avec une
d�l�gation de repr�sentants.
Ce comportement va � l'encontre de l'�thique d'entreprise
"porte ouverte". Bien au contraire, le b�timent du quartier g�n�ral
de la soci�t� est rest� ferm� et surveill� comme un ch�teau-fort
par la police suisse.
Le Comit� d'Entreprise Europ�en remercie tous ceux qui se sont
mobilis�s pour cette journ�e symbolique d'action europ�enne.
N'OUBLIEZ PAS DE REGARDER PHOTOS et ARTICLES de PRESSE dans les
tableaux d'affichages.
**************************************************************
DEMONSTRATION FOR EMPLOYMENT 08th June GENEVA - A BIG SUCCESS
**************************************************************
UNDER THE BURNING SUN, TO THE BEAT OF THE SAMBA AND HUNDREDS OF
WHISTLES...
About 300 Digital employees from France (Paris,
Valbonne/Nizza), Germany (Villingen, Munich), Italy (Milan,
Turin) and from Austria (Vienna, Salzburg) staged a protest
rally on Wednesday, June 8, in Geneva at the European
Headquarter of Digital Equipment the US-computermaker now in
deep troubles. They demonstrated against massive job cuts and
against management policies which put the whole company at
risk.
After several strikes against layoffs hitting the Digital
subsidiaries in France, Italy and Germany (in 1993) the
Digital Equipment Euro Workscouncil a body of elected employee
representatives from 10 European countries had called for this
coordinated action on the European level. Digital is becoming
more and more centralized as all major decisions are being
taken at the European or the corporate level.
The protesters - supported by their local unions, including
delegations of the French CFDT union from the Alpes Maritimes
and other parts of France, the IMF (International Metalworkers
Federation) and EuroFiet ( an association of white-collar unions) -
called for
- the stop of all forced layoffs,
- creative measures like job-sharing, work-week reduction,
more part time, sabbaticals, reskilling etc. to avoid
layoffs,
- no cuts of the social plans and transition packages applied
previously,
- the empowerment of Digital's employees in the process of
business reengineering in order to secure Digital's loyal
customers, to develop new businesses and markets and to save
the jobs,
- the beginning of a social dialogue to save the jobs and to
save the company.
A petition signed by more than 1500 employees in France has also
been sent to Mr. Damiani.
In spite of the deep crisis Digital is facing actually and
which can only be solved with the engagement of its employees,
the European management refused to start a dialogue on the
European level. No responsible manager had the courage to show
up and to discuss at least with a delegation of the
protesters. In total neglect of Digital's once-famous
"open-door policy" the European Headquarter was locked and
protected by the Swiss police like a besieged castle.
The Works Council would like to thank all those who devoted their
time to participate in this symbolic day of European action.
PLEASE DON'T FORGET TO CONSULT PHOTOGRAPHS AND PRESS ARTICLES ON THE
NOTICE BOARDS.
Distribution:
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3173.6 | | JURA::SIMARD::DUQUESNE | Daniel - ex FYO - next ??? | Thu Jun 16 1994 12:11 | 2 |
| re..4
Sorry, we have not received any german and/or italian version. :-)
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3173.7 | Sounds like a good export to me | POBOX::CORSON | YOU CALL THAT A SLAPSHOT....? | Thu Jun 16 1994 13:17 | 6 |
|
My musings just boggle at what could happen in Mass. if this type
of action spread across the Atlantic. Say 50,000 DECies in Maynard?
Could be the greatest....
the Greyhawk
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3173.8 | Good try, and good luck, but... | SWAM2::GOLDMAN_MA | Blondes have more Brains! | Thu Jun 16 1994 15:17 | 7 |
| re: .7:
....with precisely the same results, Greyhawk. I wouldn't bother,
'cause it's obvious no one is listening.
m.
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3173.9 | I still wanttogo | POBOX::CORSON | YOU CALL THAT A SLAPSHOT....? | Thu Jun 16 1994 16:23 | 6 |
| .-1
Hey, I know that....but wouldn't the idea capture the attention of the
mass (pun intended) media. I can just see the newscasts...film at 11.
So what's a little fun, anyway. You're listening.
the Greyhawk
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3173.10 | union ... hmm.... | NACAD::EWANCO | Eric James Ewanco | Thu Jun 16 1994 18:34 | 1 |
| Maybe we U.S. engineers need a union, too.
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3173.11 | Mentioned on NBC Superchannel. | OSLLAV::SVEIN | Svein Mulelid, CS Product Management, NWO | Fri Jun 17 1994 03:59 | 7 |
| The action was mention in the business news section on
NBC Superchannel yesterday evening.
The headline was something like "Digital Europe Management
choose to ignore employee actions"
Svein
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3173.12 | Some answers | ULYSSE::BUXTON_M | Im pink therefore Im spam | Fri Jun 17 1994 06:07 | 63 |
|
Following on from some questions written in another Notes conference,
and some people who had written to me via E-mail, here are a few
answers,
Mark.
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Just to clarify a few things;
� This was not an official 'strike' it was a protest. Nobody, as
far as i am aware, got free leve to attend. Everybody who went
took one days leave from their annual allowance.
NOTE: In some area's this one days leave was BLOCKED by their
respective local management. These people were basically
told that yes you can have a days leave but not on June
8th.
� Attendees came not from 'local' areas (but then again what do
you mean by locaL). People who came were from Austria (Vienna
and Salzburg), Germany (Munich and Villingen 'Home of Digital
Kienzle'), France (Paris and Nice/Sophia Antipolis aka Valbonne)
and Italy (Turin and Milan). Sophia Antipolis is 600Km from
Geneva, I do not call this local.
Yes one contingent did come by Plane (There Works council hired
a Fokker 50) the rest came by train, bus and car.
� The statement that EHQ was like a besieged castle is a good
one. Employees of EHQ were told that they were NOT to join
in the manefestation and those who were outside were NOT
allowed into the building for any reason including using the
toilet or coffee machines.
Some EHQ employees did come out of the building and to those
brave few I take off my hat. In fact one of the people that
came out offered to go inside and buy coffee for those outside.
This person was prevented from doing so by security.
I would just like to add that it took some serious thinking before
i entered the report into Notes, but considering the protest was
covered by the local Media (TV and Newspapers) I consider that this
information should be made available to employees in general wether
or not they work in Geneva.
Mark.
PS: If it was true that one person just came along for the ride
and went shopping in Geneva instead, I am utterly appalled.
This was a protest against the cutting of jobs in Europe in
general. It was a protest not just for our jobs but for yours
as well.
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3173.13 | IT COULD WORK!!!! | NEMAIL::PILATON | Nick Pilato DECUS IM&T Supervisor | Fri Jun 17 1994 11:23 | 7 |
| Hey! this could be the BONUS!!!! we've been waiting for!
If it gets enough publicity worldwide, everyone would know who DIGITAL is!
I like it ! I like it! (:^)))
Nick
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3173.14 | Not my idea of publicity | POBOX::CORSON | YOU CALL THAT A SLAPSHOT....? | Fri Jun 17 1994 15:50 | 7 |
|
Page 4, Section A June 17, 1994 Wall Street Journal. Read all about
it. Not necessarily my idea of publicity, however; but I do like the
European style of protest against management stupidity. If that was
tried here we know whose names would make the TFSO list for sure.
the Greyhawk
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3173.15 | A case in point | ANNECY::HOTCHKISS | | Mon Jun 20 1994 09:56 | 8 |
| Greyhawk,
Digital France has just been taken to court by its
employees(the Comite d'Entreprise) for allegedly putting names on a
list for TFSO when in fact the law prescribes that when a company
presents a plan to downsize,it must justify numbers first then assign
names.You can't just TFSO people here(not easily at least).The
judgement is suspended until July 12th.So,the protestors don't really
risk being put on the 'list'.
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3173.16 | Legal Action underway in France | EVTAI1::MASI | | Wed Jul 06 1994 06:06 | 27 |
| Hello,
For the record, the Judge's decision is expected tomorrow, Thursday
July 7.
If the answer is positive for the plaintiff (the Worker's Council),
this means that the present lay-off plan is anything but cancelled.
Which leaves the Board free either to start a new plan all over from
scratch (would that be brilliant idea to start the Fiscal Year with?)
Or just drop the idea. We'll see.
If the answer is negative for the plaintiff, this means the lay-off
plan will move ahead swiftly and termination letters will be sent to
employees before week's end.
In any case, to make things look better, we've just been told DC
(the major contributor to this plan) is up for sale...
If/when this happens, God knows what will happen anyway. To get an
idea, just ask the Philips Information Systems people
that DEC Europe bought out 2 years ago... No further comments needed.
Will keep you posted.
Pascal
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3173.17 | What's that? | FILTON::ROBINSON_M | Shuffling the DEC | Wed Jul 06 1994 07:11 | 7 |
| .16 'DC's up for sale'
Is there any chance that you could expand on that, either here or in
3151? Will it be just France, Europe wide or what? When? Enquiring
minds want to know...
Martin
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3173.18 | DC on the Market | EVTAI1::MASI | | Wed Jul 06 1994 09:59 | 21 |
| Hello,
Yes, we have been told that nogociations are currently underway at
Corporate level to sell Digital Consulting to an outside company.
The information comes from Country level DC Management. This is what
should be announced on July 18.
The prospective buyer's name we have heard of is : Computer Science
Corporation, a Washington DC-based Consulting Company that is hardly
present in Europe.
The scope of the sale is allegedly world-wide.
In fact, I would be interested in hearing more about CSC since they
are not known on this side of the Big Pond. Anyone knows?
Regards,
Pascal
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3173.19 | | BHAJEE::JAERVINEN | Ora, the Old Rural Amateur | Wed Jul 06 1994 10:24 | 3 |
| What I've been told, you're supposed to stock up on white shirts, ties,
and dark suits.
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3173.20 | Every cloud has a potential ! | PETRUS::GUEST_N | An innocent passer-by | Wed Jul 06 1994 10:26 | 7 |
|
Nah, white ties look crap on a white shirt.
Now, if EDS buy DC then razor sales would go through the roof :-)
N.
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3173.21 | CSC _are_ in Europe, already | WELSWS::HILLN | It's OK, it'll be dark by nightfall | Wed Jul 06 1994 10:43 | 6 |
| Actually, CSC are present and active in Europe. They are getting into
outsourcing deals in a fairly big way and have just won the outsourcing
for all of British Aerospace.
I've heard that their budget for expansion in Europe is over $50M per
year at the moment.
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3173.22 | CSC what I know | SSDEVO::BRADACH | Purity Of Essence | Wed Jul 06 1994 11:35 | 7 |
| I used to compete against CSC in the US Defense Contracting industry.
They were most noted for thier Ada development. Very big in software
engineering.
I suspect they are tring to branch out of the defense industry which
is dying faster than Digital
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3173.23 | | BHAJEE::JAERVINEN | Ora, the Old Rural Amateur | Wed Jul 06 1994 11:44 | 4 |
| Most of CSC subsidiaries in Europe seem to be quite small, especially
non-NATO countries. Someone claimed that e.g. here in Germany, they
were mostly active in the military scene (like US/NATO troops in Germany,
but those are also diminishing fast).
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3173.24 | DC France | ANNECY::HUMAN | I came, I saw, I conked out | Wed Jul 06 1994 12:18 | 13 |
| Well we are all getting a pat on the back from the head of DC France for
our efforts:
93.5% of CERTS Q4
NOR Q4 103.6% of March Forecast
I don't know much about figures but M. Duguet seems pretty pleased.
Interpret as you will.......
ciao, martin
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3173.25 | Some thoughts on CSC and DC | NOVA::EBAUER | | Wed Jul 06 1994 14:28 | 12 |
| It's been several years since I last did business with CSC, but they
were at the time a very large information services firm primarily
rooted in US and NATO defense contracts. They have been trying to
expand in to the commercial space for some time, the purchase of DC
would give them that market presence and on an international scale.
They would also be getting the still valuable remains of what was once
the best trained and most professional pool of individual contributors
that I have ever worked with.
- Evan
(Who sees nothing but remains these days)
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3173.26 | rumors say get your resume ready | CARAFE::GOLDSTEIN | Global Village Idiot | Wed Jul 06 1994 15:28 | 4 |
| re:.25
You assume, of course, that CSC intends to take the labor force along
with the contracts and assets? Are you counting on that?
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3173.27 | DC = people | USDEV::BLAISDELL | Rick, dtn: 297-5077 | Wed Jul 06 1994 16:16 | 6 |
| > You assume, of course, that CSC intends to take the labor force along
> with the contracts and assets? Are you counting on that?
Isn't the primary asset in DC, the labor force?
-rick
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3173.28 | | WIDGET::KLEIN | | Wed Jul 06 1994 16:46 | 5 |
| > Isn't the primary asset in DC, the labor force?
Actually, I suspect it is the Customer Base.
-steve-
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3173.29 | | MUZICK::WARNER | It's only work if they make you do it | Wed Jul 06 1994 16:52 | 1 |
| hmmm...talk to SES/IDC
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3173.30 | let's listen first | TROOA::PBLANEY | Explanations take too long Mr.Nike | Wed Jul 06 1994 18:49 | 7 |
| It is people, exisitng contracts, assets, access to the net, etc etc.
It has potential to be a large opportunity for many folks in DC. Let's
hear what it is first before trying to knock it.
-pb
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3173.31 | | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Thu Jul 07 1994 03:12 | 14 |
| Existing contracts may not last long. They can follow the people.
Case in point, someone I know was TFSOd. A *very* large
customer told DEC "Either you employ him or we do. We would prefer you
do since we like to outsource that type of expertise, and it gives him
access to your net." DEC immediately took him back on as a contractor.
If selling off DC meant reduced access to Easynet then the value to
the new company would have been reduced in that case. If selling off DC
meant firing that employee then the value of DC (in the customer's
terms) would have been reduced to zero. And the customer's terms imply
what the value would be to a buyer of DC.
Without its employees and access to Easynet DC is worthless.
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3173.32 | | BHAJEE::JAERVINEN | Ora, the Old Rural Amateur | Thu Jul 07 1994 04:43 | 55 |
| Date Of Receipt: inel" 7-JUL-1994 02:49
From: OLIMPA::sentinel "WGS/AD News Sen
[email protected]
To: lgp30::maynardtimes
CC:
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Subject: (WSJ):Digital Considers Computer Sciences Corp To Buy Unit -Sentinel DOW Story
Source: DowVision-Dow International-DI
Size: 1745
Sentinel Delivered by Groupware Advanced Development:
DIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLY BY INFORMATION PROVIDER AGREEMENT:
BOSTON (AP-DJ)--Computer Sciences Corp. is in discussions with Digital
Equipment Corp. about the purchase of Digital's consulting and
systems-integration business, people familiar with the talks said in an
article published in Thursday's Wall Street Journal.
Computer Sciences's chairman and chief executive, William R. Hoover, was
scheduled to meet this week with Digital's chief executive, Robert B.
Palmer, to discuss the unit, the sources said.
But the companies aren't close to a deal, one insider said, and it isn't
known what price is being asked for the unit, which has sales of 1.5
billion dlrs. Spokesmen for Digital, in Maynard, Massachusetts, and
Computer Sciences, in El Segundo, California, wouldn't comment.
Digital has said it might sell off some assets as part of a sweeping
restructuring intended to transform the loss-plagued computer maker into a
smaller enterprise focused on fewer markets.
The first asset sale may be a portion of the company's disk-drive unit,
which is expected to bring in as much as 400 million dlrs. Earlier this
week, Digital confirmed it is in talks with Quantum Corp., Milpitas,
California, over a possible sale. The drive business employs some 4,000
people in Colorado Springs and Louisville, Colorado, Shrewsbury,
Massachusetts, Penang, Malaysia, and Batam, Indonesia.
If the negotiations with Computer Sciences are unsuccessful, Digital
could miss out on one of its better chances at raising cash and removing
thousands of workers from its payroll. But the company has other options,
including entering into partnerships or selling other assets, such as the
sale some of its advanced chip-making capacity to semiconductor makers.
(END) AP-DOW JONES NEWS 07-07-94
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3173.33 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | A-mazed on the info Highway! | Thu Jul 07 1994 04:45 | 5 |
| FWIW, I agree with Dave. One of the problems with this Company is that
a large part of its value can't be touched, smelt, felt or measured.
The bean-counters forget that, time and time again.
Laurie.
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3173.34 | CSC PROFILE | LEMAN::MONMEGE | BRIGITTE MONMEGE @GEO | Thu Jul 07 1994 05:05 | 33 |
| REPLY TO 3173.18
Pascal,
Give me a ring (821-5092), and give me a fax number (DTN/Fax) to
send you a 9 pages document I have on this company.....
I have not time to type it in.
It is an official document " Profiles of Professional Services
Organisations"
It is quite complete and contains :
1. The Company
2. Organisational Structure
3. Recent Acquisitions
4. Revenues
5. Salaries & Incentives
6. Products & Services
7. Customers
8. Strategies
9. Alliances
10. SWOT Analysis
11. New Items
12. Company Addresses, CEO's & Number of Employees
13. Bibliography
Anyone else interested to type it in here ?
Cordialement,
Brigitte
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3173.35 | Ex CSC person | CHEFS::PARRYD | If my boss calls, get the name | Thu Jul 07 1994 07:06 | 14 |
| I have worked for CSC then with them while in Digital and have friends
still there. They are one of the major SIs in the U.K. In their
Defence division they employ lots of ex military people. In my
experience they're a good firm: good pay and conditions, flexible and
adaptive organizationally, professional and competent at what they do.
We should understand their positioning, at least as far as Defence is
concerned. They seek always to be the prime contractor, leading in
studies and implementation. They operate in the business process and
solutions areas. They were NOT competent, when I was there, in the
data and systems integration areas. They had about 80/20 business to
technical people (and we have 2/98 {:-]) Recently they have moved
towards FM and they are picking up techies from groups like British
Aerospace.
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3173.36 | Can someone explain to me please? | SUBURB::POWELLM | Nostalgia isn't what it used to be! | Thu Jul 07 1994 08:53 | 20 |
|
I must be thick or something (and I'd rather no-one commented on
that please). I cannot understand how selling off parts of the
company, which are revenue raising parts, will improve our revenue per
employee - which I understand to be the name of the game in this
headcount reduction that we are forever going through.
Surely, if we sell parts of the company that are making a profit
(the only sellable parts!), we are reducing revenue - probably faster
than the headcount that goes with the parts sold - hence the actions do
not result in any real improvement in the revenue per head of those
remaining?
I can still only see this as "selling the family silver!"
Can anyone explain where I have it wrong (in simple terms - dotting
the i's and crossing the t's), as I obviously must have my ideas wrong,
since the company is going down this route.
Malcolm.
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3173.37 | | FORTY2::DALLAS | Paul Dallas, DEC/EDI @REO2-F/F2 | Thu Jul 07 1994 09:34 | 36 |
| I think it goes like this:
Our revenue only justifies 65,000 employees and we have 85,000
OK, let's cut 20,000.
The quickest way is to sell "divisions".
Hey, look we've reached 65,000 - we can stop now.
Oh! Our revenue declined. How did that happen? The folks who are left
can't be working hard enough - we must have gotten rid of the best
people. We can only justify 55,000 now - let's cut again.
:-) (in case you hadn't realised)
If our revenue only justifies 65,000, we have to sell loss-making
divisions in order to improve our earnings/employee. But nobody wants
to buy a loss-making concern (unless they need the assets!), so we have
to sell profitable businesses. If the divisions we sell have a lower
earnings/employee than the company average then we will improve the
average by getting rid of that division, BUT we still won't reach the
golden figure (current earnings/65,000). Draw your own conclusions.
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3173.38 | Malcolm, I'll try... | WELSWS::HILLN | It's OK, it'll be dark by nightfall | Thu Jul 07 1994 09:37 | 22 |
| I think the argument goes something like this...
We (someone) has to decide what we are going to focus on as a core,
profitable business for the future. The outcome is four things:
a list of the bits that must be kept,
a list of the bits that must be developed,
a list of the bits to be got rid of,
an idea of how much money is needed to achieve the new focus.
One way to get some or all of the money for the reshaping to the new
focus is to sell the bits that are not in the core. The best way to do
this is to start with the bits that are attractive to other companies
-- this generally means they are profitable, or have some other
valuable asset.
True this means that for a while the revenue and profit per employee
gets worse, but that's the short term price that has to be paid. In
the medium to long term, because the company is concentrating on what
it does best, the revenue and profit per employee should show a
dramatic improvement.
However I remain to be convinced that this will work for Digital.
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3173.39 | My guess ... | RTOEU::KPLUSZYNSKI | | Thu Jul 07 1994 09:53 | 28 |
| The livewire story about storage indicates, that there is a fine line
between what we want to sell and what to keep:
We sell the commodity parts of the business (heads and disk manufacturing)
and keep the value added businesses (storageworks and video services).
In order to build these value added subsystems we will buy the
components on the open market, instead of making them ourselves.
We will save spending on R&D and manufacturing capacity for those
components. Instead of beeing a small manufacturer of commodity disks
we will become a large buyer, able to negotiate favorable terms.
This approach is widely used in the automotive industry. More and more
components of a car are outsourced to external suppliers, which in turn
use sub-suppliers. While the margins in the supplier business have
become razor-thin during the last years due to fierce competition, the
car manufacturers have a chance to achieve higher margins, mainly
because of the ability to deliver the products that customers want
to buy. Good marketing strategies are an essential here.
In other words: There might be a real strategy behind this storage story.
We sell those parts of our business that add little value to our value
chain and keep those parts that indeed do add value. It sounds like a good
strategy, but the question is about implementation.
Klaus
Klaus
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3173.40 | we all would appreciate it! | VILIS1::AFAUSER | | Thu Jul 07 1994 09:54 | 5 |
| I am sure you would do a favor to many people if you could type it in
(and I know there are nicer things for a passtime). Otherwise you might
end up getting hundreds of requests for faxes ...
Albrecht
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3173.41 | | VILIS1::AFAUSER | | Thu Jul 07 1994 09:56 | 3 |
| sorry, my last reply concerned .34
A.
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3173.42 | Why revenue per head? | CHEFS::PARRYD | It beats the real thing | Thu Jul 07 1994 09:56 | 10 |
| re .36
It's easy: get rid of 5,000 people earning �1,000 per week and
the remaining 500 earning �10,000 per week go from a �/head/week of
�1,818 to �10,000.
Talking about "making a profit" is irrelevant and not very
applicable to the PBUs since we don't know where or whether we are
earning any profit. Incidentally it's quite easy to increase your
losses by increasing your revenue.
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3173.43 | | DREUL1::rob | Rob Marshall - Customer Service Dresden | Thu Jul 07 1994 10:20 | 28 |
| No Malcolm, you're not "thick". You are absolutely right, that selling off
the money making parts of Digital won't help Digital. It will probably be
a "life saver", though, for those that go. Assuming, of course, that the new
management is better at doing the job of marketing the products and services
than Digital management has been (I know, Digital management is a tough act
to follow :-).
While, on the one hand, we are reducing revenue; we are, by the sale of por-
tions of the company, increasing cash flow. This will inevitably improve
our balance sheet because we will have less costs (no packages for those that
go, and no salary payments to those employees) and more cash on hand. This
will also raise the value of the stock. Especially since Wall Street is
overrun with short-sighted turkeys who assume that cost cutting (read: massive
layoffs) is the only way to save a faltering company.
If you're really talented, though, I assume that it would be possible to use
the extremely short term gain of selling off valuable business units to help
you establish your long-term plan. If the long-term plan begins to bring in
enough money to offset the loss in business that will eventually come from
having sold off your "cash cows", you could, theoretically, make your turn-
around. You're going to have to make the turn-around before you run out of
cash, though. The greatest advantages being, you have increased your short-
term cash flow, reduced your costs significantly, and Wall Street is happy
with you for a short time. Having Wall Street happy, and hopeful that you
will make it with your new stream-lined structure, will help keep them off
your backs for a quarter, maybe two.
Rob
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3173.44 | We have a result | ULYSSE::BUXTON_M | Im pink therefore Im spam | Thu Jul 07 1994 11:46 | 27 |
|
I interupt this topic for a news flash....
> <<< LOBLO::SYS$SYSDEVICE:[NOTES$LIBRARY]EF94.NOTE;2 >>>
> -< Lie back and think of England >-
>================================================================================
>Note 121.111 Rise like lions... 111 of 112
>BALZAC::STURT "Totally wired" 12 lines 7-JUL-1994 15:46
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The industrial tribunal in Evry has thrown out Digital France's
> redundancy plan due to the company management's failure to follow the
> legally prescribed procedures. The announcement was made just a few
> minutes ago.
>
> This decision means that management will have to start the whole
> process all over again. It provides a reprieve for the employees who
> were on the list, and requires the company to enter the new fiscal year
> and implement the new, new organisation with the current staff.
>
> Salut,
> Edward.
and now back to the scheduled program,
Mark.
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3173.45 | CSC review in 3237.10 | BRIEIS::BARKER_E | test dummy | Thu Jul 07 1994 11:48 | 7 |
| re .34
I think Martin has typed in the CSC review in 3237.10
Interesting reading, Thanks.
Euan
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3173.46 | Am I depressed about this situation? I don't think I can afford to be. | SUBURB::POWELLM | Nostalgia isn't what it used to be! | Thu Jul 07 1994 11:59 | 14 |
|
Well, I thought as did .37 - the only sale-able part are those with
the high revenue per head, hence our revenue per head would go down
considerably for the remaining part of the company if they are sold off!
Rob's idea doesn't seem very feasible (as he says - well, writes)
and assumes that the "lame duck" part of the company that remains (by
definition, that is what it must be!!!) can be "un-lamed" as you might
put it, within a quarter or two. Like Rob in .43, I can't see this
happening - am I a depressed person, I ask myself? The answer is -
keeps smiling, things could be worse ....
Malcolm.
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3173.47 | Consider what someone else could do with it | WOTVAX::GREENJA | Andy Green | Thu Jul 07 1994 13:19 | 15 |
| Taking the alternative view, maybe the non-profitable parts of the
business are the ones we can sell !
We are arrogant and stupid if we believe that just because Digital
can't make money at something then it must be bad business. In fact its
probably in a market that our competition thinks provides good business ;-)
As everyone seems to agree that our resources are great then surely
somebody who knew how to sell/market/manage (delete depending on who
you blame for Digitals problems) them in the market could make a bit of
profit at it.
Cheers,
Andy
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3173.48 | | DREUL1::rob | depending on His love | Fri Jul 08 1994 05:24 | 29 |
| Well, just to make it clear. I believe that you would have to have very good
management in order to make the turn-around within the very limited (at most
two quarters) time that they (management) would have. I doubt that DEC man-
agement will be able to do it. Basically, because you would have to fully
restructure the remaining company, and I just think that management is in-
capable of doing that. They've had a couple years to do it, and they
haven't been able to do it so far. Experience tells me: they wouldn't be able
to do it even if they had all of eternity, let alone in two quarters.
I guess that you have to answer a central question: what are our "core com-
petencies"? You can sell parts of the business simply because someone wants
to buy them. ie, We end up with a garage sale, everything that people want
to buy gets sold at bargain prices, and the rest gets tossed in the trash.
Or, you decide clearly what businesses you are going to do, sell off what
doesn't fit, and then *make* the rest work. But, IMO, you've only got the
above mentioned 2 quarters to get it working.
If you don't make it in the 1/2 year that the investors will give you, you
end up with a new CEO with new ideas...ad nauseaum(sp?)...ie you end up
where we've been since BP took over, reorganizations without end, no real
results, more layoffs, and eventually liquidation. Of course, we could
always hope that our next CEO is able to raise a pheonix from the ashes...
Am I depressed about it? Yeah. DEC used to be a great company, but Digital
has been reorganized into a catastrophe either by design or total ineptitude.
I've been in this company for almost 11 years and it angers me to see what
has happened over the last 5 years.
Rob
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3173.49 | Court decision | BONNET::PINEY | | Fri Jul 08 1994 08:02 | 32 |
| ++ Newsflash: outcome of court action ++
"[...]
As you know, the CFDT has taken DECTE to court on behalf of the Sophia
Antipolis section of the union [ ...]
regarding the closure of the Ferney-Voltaire building and the transfer
of its activities.
The purpose of the action at the Tribunal de Grande Instance was to
freeze the closure procedure, that is:
* stop the transfers to Annecy and Geneva
* stop the possible job redefinition
* stop the establishment of working from home and all the other
alternatives discussed with Comit� Central d'Entreprise de
Ferney.
[...]
the Ferney representatives, and the personnel, who are
directly involved, had condemned this action taken without their
agreement by the CFDT Sophia-Antipolis representatives in a letter to the
Director of Human Resources.
DECISION OF THE COURT : we have been informed on 29 June 1994 that the
Tribunal de Grand Instance has concluded not to follow the CFDT request
to hold the legal procedure concerning the closure of Ferney-Voltaire.
Therefore, the plan social discussed and agreed upon during the
consultation procedure with the Comit� Central d'Entreprise can be
implemented."
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3173.50 | Find it hard to believe. | PETRUS::GUEST_N | An innocent passer-by | Fri Jul 08 1994 08:42 | 16 |
|
If i understand .49 correctly :-
1. The union persuaded the preliminary hearing to halt the
closure of Ferney-voltaire etc
2. The staff in Ferney-Voltaire protested about this decision.
3. Ferney-voltaire will now be closed.
Is this really true ?
Nigel
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3173.51 | You heard right | RUTILE::DAVIS | | Fri Jul 08 1994 08:59 | 35 |
| <<< Note 3173.50 by PETRUS::GUEST_N "An innocent passer-by" >>>
-< Find it hard to believe. >-
< If i understand .49 correctly :-
<
< 1. The union persuaded the preliminary hearing to halt the
< closure of Ferney-voltaire etc
<
The union unilaterally - with a little push from the
Comit� d'Entreprise in Valbonne (against the wishes of those of us in
Ferney, as far as I can tell) - brought suit to stop the closing plan.
<
< 2. The staff in Ferney-Voltaire protested about this decision.
<
Correct. The employees here were interested in getting on with
their lives and not being held hostage so others could get a better plan
later. Ferney would, however, appreciate this much concern from Valbonne
for our welfare in administrative matters, such as getting our expense
claims paid more quickly.
< 3. Ferney-voltaire will now be closed.
<
Correct again.
<
< Is this really true ?
<
<
< Nigel
<
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3173.52 | | PERLE::glantz | Mike, soon-to-close Paris Research Lab, 776-2836 | Fri Jul 08 1994 10:45 | 17 |
| >Ferney would, however, appreciate this much concern from Valbonne
>for our welfare in administrative matters, such as getting our expense
>claims paid more quickly.
If I understood correctly, it was not "Valbonne" or the Comite
d'entreprise in Valbonne who played any part the legal action, was it?
I understood that it was a unilateral action by the CFDT, which is a
French labor organization which does not currently have a very large
number of members from DECTE (Digital Equipment Centre Technique
Europe, which is a distinct management entity from DEC France, and
which consists of Valbonne, Ferney-Voltaire, and PRL - and I think Annecy?).
Also, just so it's clear: the court decision "unblocking" the closure
of Ferney-Voltaire is unrelated to the (different) court decision
rejecting the proposed layoff plan for Evry (which is part of DEC
France). I'm not aware of any of the details of why the Evry plan was
rejected, or if the CFDT was involved.
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3173.53 | From DIGITAL FRANCE Work Council | EVOAI2::BRUSSOLO | please run fsck ... | Fri Jul 08 1994 12:03 | 14 |
|
This is to inform you that the legal action taken by
the work council and the CFDT union has been judged
successfull by the court of EVRY on Thrusday July 7.
The official judgment states that the layoff plan is
cancelled from a legal standpoint.
Work Council Digital France
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3173.54 | | BBRDGE::LOVELL | � l'eau; c'est l'heure | Fri Jul 08 1994 16:38 | 26 |
|
re previous few,
The UNSUCCESSFUL union court action relates to CFDT action
taken against DECTE in the court (Tribunal de Grand Instance
at Grasse - about 15km. from Valbonne) concerning very specific
plans for the closure of the Ferney-Voltaire site.
The SUCCESSFUL court action relates to action taken by the
CFDT union against Digital France in the court at Evry (country
HQ) relating to Digital France's "plan social" - the generic
plan for the next round of subsidiary-wide downsizing.
DECTE consists of Ferney-Voltaire, Paris Research Lab and Valbonne
(not Annecy) and is mostly owned by Geneva and the Corporation.
Just to make things more complicated, it has recently been agreed
that DECTE will soon (when?) become a 100% subsidiary of Digital France.
In all likelihood, neither the SUCCESSFUL nor the UNSUCCESSFUL
rulings will have much impact on the eventual results - merely
postpones them a few months.
WHAT A SORRY STATE OF AFFAIRS WHEN TALENTED COLLEAGUES
ARE FORCED TO RESORT TO SUCH ACTION TO ENGAGE MANAGEMENT.
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3173.55 | Complexity squared! | CHEFS::OSBORNEC | | Sun Jul 10 1994 10:08 | 13 |
|
Chris -
Thanks for the clarification. Helps me, & at least I know the local
scene..
How our non-European colleagues understand the nuances is beyond me,
but perhaps it illustrates very clearly the legal differences
of trading in New Hampshire vs legal norms elsewhere.....
Colin
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