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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

3116.0. "TRUST" by ICS::DOANE () Thu May 26 1994 19:19

    I've been thinking about what ails this company.
    
    I think we might just be about to turn the corner.
    But I'm really not too sure what's just around it.
    I'd like to do anything I can to have it turn out well.
    Like most of you who write and read here.
    
    Anyhow:  I got to thinking about fundamental root causes.  
    And I've written something frightfully long I guess.
    I don't think it will do anything for us short term.
    But I'm pulling for a *long* term for this company.
    
    OK, there's no excuse for such verbosity, but if you
    elect to read the first "reply", you were warned...
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                                     TRUST
     
     Trust is a commitment to behave as though something that is not now, 
     will be;  and a willingness to risk the consequences if it won't be.
     
     We trust both things and people.  I trust the bridge that I drive over 
     and I trust the promise someone makes to me.
     
     We have the wisdom not to trust any thing or person unconditionally.  
     I wouldn't trust the bridge I drive over, if it's posted for 6 tons 
     and I see a truck coming that looks like it might weigh twice that.
     
     There are at least two ways that I may trust a person:
     
     1	I believe their ability to deliver is equal to the result they 
     	promised.  I trust the person's Competence.
     
     2	I believe their private conversation is the same as the one they 
     	speak.  I trust the person's Sincerity.
     
     In business, any of these three kinds of trust can be in question.  
     At this time in Digital's history, I believe it is particularly 
     important that we maintain and build trust in each other's sincerity.
     For with downsizing there are more reasons to hide our thoughts than 
     when we are growing.  The risks of sincerity may be high.  Yet if we 
     do not trust, we cannot do business effectively together.  
     Partnership, or even simple cooperation, can't be done without trust.
     
     TWO WAYS YOU MIGHT NOT TRUST MY SINCERITY
     
     There is a simple but not an easy way to build your trust in my 
     sincerity.  If you are to trust that I am revealing my inner 
     conversation, I must reveal my inner conversation!
     
     Here are two cases where my inner conversation is unavailable to you:
     
     A	I had the conscious thought, but I did not choose to share it
     
     B	I buried it away from my own attention, so even I don't hear it.
     
     My insincerity of type A is difficult for you to deal with.  But my 
     body-language or tone of voice or some other behavior I generate might 
     give you a hint.  Possibly, you can even decode the hints enough to 
     gain a reasonably clear and accurate interpretation of my thoughts.  
     More likely, you simply sense that I have not said what I am thinking.
     But at least, you can then confront me and challenge me to say more.
     
     My insincerity of type B is much more cryptic.  At a conscious level, 
     my sincerity is unblemished.  My body language, tone of voice, and 
     even some of my behaviors may be consistent with what I speak.  
     However, many people have a deep intuition not to trust what I say 
     when it's in conflict with one of my buried inner conversations.
     

     SIGNS OF AN INSINCERITY POLICY
     
     If I bury conversations with myself beneath my conscious awareness, 
     I'll have adopted a policy of some kind about which ones to bury.  
     Policies like this are seldom quite obvious.  But even my less obvious 
     policies may leave a trace on the surface of my behavior.  Examples of 
     signs that I may have a policy of buried-away inner thoughts:
     
     *	You are present when an event occurs in my life that almost 
     	everyone experiences as happy, and I express no happy affect.  
     	It seems likely that I have some inner conversation which is not 
     	happy;  or that I adopted a policy of not being in touch with my 
     	joyful thoughts.
     
     *	You are present when an event occurs in my life that almost
     	everyone experiences as painful, and I express no pain or sadness.
     	It strikes you as likely that I have some inner conversation which
     	is not sad or painful;  or that it's my policy not to be in touch
     	with my painful thoughts.
     
     I'm not saying you can have any certainty about these interpretations.
     My expressionlessness is empty.  If it's the result of my policy of 
     preventing sincerity, all you have to go on is the negative evidence:  
     like the dog that did not bark.
     
     WHY DO I BURY MY THINKING AWAY FROM MYSELF?
     
     Obviously this is a complex subject.  I am not a psychologist, and if 
     I were, I would not be able to cover this topic in a few paragraphs.
     However, there is one strand of this complex web that I think is clear 
     enough, and relevant enough to Digital's business, to tackle here.
     
     There's a particular game we play in business.  It has names like 
     "advancement" or "promotion."  Advancement or promotion is not always 
     a game.  Advancement or promotion is frequently an acknowledgement 
     that someone is ready for a larger, more responsible role.  
     
     But for some, it is a game.  The phrase "poker face" is an obvious 
     reference to this kind of game.  Because if you play a win-lose game 
     to win, you have to avoid revealing your inner conversation.  You have 
     to adopt a policy of insincerity to win such a game.
     
     So it is when I am not willing for promotion or advancement to be just 
     a natural acknowledgement of my growth;  it is when I make the choice 
     to play it as a win-lose game, that I adopt a policy of insincerity.
     
     And if I merely conceal my inner thoughts, you will often hear in my 
     tone of voice or see in my body language that I have not been sincere.  
     So if I want to get good at this game, I must develop an unconscious 
     insincerity.  I must bury some of my thoughts where even I myself have 
     no access.  Then, I can really "operate."  I'm type B insincere.

     INSINCERITY ADDICTION
     
     I view type B insincerity as an addiction.  It doesn't work for what I 
     use it for;  so I can never get enough of it.  All addictions have 
     this structure.
     
     What do I use it for?  Well, why did I choose to play advancement as 
     if it were a game?
     
     There's a particular theory about life floating around, which, if I 
     adopt it, would suggest playing advancement as a game.  The theory is:  
     it's a dog-eat-dog world.
     
     If I believe that I live in a zero-sum, win-lose, dog-eat-dog world I 
     don't need to trust or to be trusted.  What I need is to win.
     
     Observe that viewing this life among humans as a zero-sum, win-lose, 
     dog-eat-dog world is not trusting view!  I'm beginning with a 
     non-trusting position;  choosing to play advancement as a game so as 
     to cope;  and then destroying trust in others with whom I interact.  
     It's a circular process, because others become less worthy of my trust 
     as they themselves adopt the win-lose theory under my influence and 
     the influence of others whom I've influenced.
     
     We become contageous.  We spread our addiction.  We can get our whole 
     neighborhood hooked on intractable, type B insincerity.  We could 
     persist until we lose all possibility of trust anywhere among us.
     
     IT'S HARD TO KICK THE HABIT
     
     Ricardo Semler, author of the only business book that ever kept me up 
     all night ("Maverick!"), has led his company over a fifteen year 
     period to prove out many amazingly democratic management innovations.  
     He emphasizes one, however, that was by far the most difficult.  More 
     difficult than having every person's salary on public display.  More 
     difficult than having people set their own salary.  More difficult 
     than having leaders elected by those they lead.  More difficult than 
     having the results of a 40-question semi-annual evaluation of each 
     leader by their subordinates posted publicly every six months.
     
     What was that astoundingly, excruciatingly difficult innovation?
     Removing names from parking places.  This took 10 years to accomplish.
     
     That's how strong the advancement-as-a-game addiction gets.  Ten years 
     to kick it far enough so some symbols that support it can be removed.
     
     JUST SAY NO?
     
     It's a personal choice.
     
     And, if I don't realize what it will lead to, just a little bit of 
     win-lose game playing may seem like a harmless "kick."

     Here's one of the ways it can start.  We pick somebody to be "it."  
     Might be Bill Clinton;  might be Ken Olsen;  might be Bob Palmer; 
     might be our local manager.  We don't speak to "it."  But at coffee 
     time, over lunch, on the Notes file, or wherever, whoever is "it" gets 
     our critique.
     
     Can you see this as a game?  I critique Bill Clinton, let's say.  What 
     that says about me is:  here's a way I am superior to the President.  
     Advancement is mine!  I'm a winner!  He did this stupid thing, but 
     what *I* would have done is:  [name a *much* wiser action.]
     
     This is an addictive choice.  I've adopted the win-lose, zero-sum, 
     dog-eat-dog theory and I'm playing its game.  I'm using it to be a 
     winner.  But it won't work for what I'm using it for.  So I can never 
     get enough of it.
     
     Now, there's one deeper layer that I think must be revealed in order 
     to see this whole sorry structure and give us access to unwinding it.
     
     Why did the dog-eat-dog theory attract me, in the first place?  Why am 
     I willing to even consider a win-lose theory of human interaction?  
     What, at bottom, *am I using it for* anyway??
     
     THE NEED TO WIN
     
     Once upon a time, several hundred thousand years ago, there was a 
     troop of primates.  They roamed the savannah very much like a troop of 
     Baboons might do today.  Only they posessed a new invention.
     
     This troop had invented language.  They had begun to speak.  They had 
     begun to recount stories of what happened yesterday.  Eventually they 
     could speak of what happened last year.  Eventually, they could even 
     speak of what happened many years ago.
     
     Speaking of what happened over the years gave them a sense of the 
     unfolding of the years.  They began to project their experiences 
     forward into the future:  they developed foresight.
     
     With foresight, the adults began to foresee the future for their 
     young.  They began to parent with foresight.  They could foresee that 
     their young males were to be the sentries, the hunters, the warriors.  
     They could foresee that when first meeting another tribe, these young 
     men would be the first to be on the business end of the interaction.
     They could foresee that if there was a dangerous game animal, a 
     dangerous marauding animal, or a dangerous competing tribe, it would 
     be their young males who would have the mobility and dispensability to 
     protect and preserve the rest.  (For it only takes one male to 
     preserve the tribe's future, if there are enough females surviving.)
     
     So they invented games.  Hundreds of thousands of years ago?  I don't 
     really know.  I wasn't there to see...but it looks natural to me.

     Well, this is one theory.  Not well grounded in scientific fact.  But 
     I like it.  For it suggests where men of business get the need to win.  
     From our parents!  For our own good, and because we were to be the 
     tribe's social security system, our loyal tribal parents got us into 
     win-lose games.  For "fitness" as we call it today.  To be ready to be 
     top dog, when dog-eats-dog.  From our parents, and from the other 
     tribal elders of our youth, we learn to play mistrustful tribal games.
     
     DIGITAL AS A POST-TRIBAL COMPANY OF TRUST
     
     When I joined Digital in 1960 there was something a little different 
     about this outfit of 100 people.  Laughter!  Fun!  From Ken Olsen on 
     out, this was not a company of poker-faces.  This was a jocular bunch 
     who worked intensely because what we were doing was *fun!*  Sure, we 
     took commitments "seriously."  But certainly not solemly!  Nobody had 
     to speak in solemn tones of "accountability."  My recollection is that 
     we did what we said;  or we acknowledged trouble.  That's all.
     
     Ken took pains to dissipate my tendencies to relate to him as top dog.  
     He positively, clearly refused it.  There was no organization chart, 
     there were no marked parking spaces, there were no obiesances.  We 
     never spoke of trust--we never needed to, I think.  It was in the air.
     Ken would blurt out his half-baked thoughts.  Sometimes I would jump 
     on them;  sometimes others would.  But Ken would persist in tossing 
     out what he had in mind, without a lot of top-dog caution.  So did we 
     all.  It was chaotic.  It was unpredictable.  It was not polite, not 
     considerate, not "nice."  Nobody ever asked anyone "are you 
     comfortable with that."  But trust was so easy and natural.  I do not 
     recall any moment of distrust in my earliest years at Digital.
     
     I think Digital was a bunch of people who had never "got it."  We had 
     missed the tribal signals.  We had failed at sports;  we could not get 
     serious about win-lose games.  A bunch of unsocialized, unathletic 
     hackers.  A company of oddballs who never developed a proper *need* to 
     win.  So Digital people were worthy of each other's trust.  And our 
     suppliers and customers loved us:  we were worthy of their trust too.
     
     UNWINDING THE SYNDROME
     
     We have lost our post-tribal trustworthyness to some extent.  Not 
     entirely lost it.  But I think it's been substantially weakened. 
     I'd like to see it restored.  For Digital may be one of the few 
     organizations on the surface of this earth, to have such a well 
     developed post-tribal experience and tradition.  We have a better 
     chance than most organizations to unwind the ancient syndrome and get 
     off of whatever addiction to win-lose games we may have developed.
     
     Semler says "if you don't have the symbols that support the wrong 
     people, you won't have the wrong people."  What he means by "wrong 
     people" I'll have to guess.  From everything I can tell about who 
     Ricardo Semler is, I'd say he means:  people addicted to win-lose 
     games.  People who are contagious with addictive mistrust.

     One thing to be especially vigilant about is:  marked parking places!
     But I think this may be too easy.  For most of us, the temptations are 
     more mundane.  Negative chatter is our primary corrupter.  Gaining 
     advancement on whomever is "it" in the win-lose game of blaming:  
     this is the addictive drug that is most likely to get us hooked.
     
     If I want to grow trust it's the "little" choices that really matter.  
     Do I speak more critically of my manager behind her back than I have 
     directly to her face?  Do I express my joy and my sorrow directly, so 
     people can trust that they know where I'm coming from?  Can I be 
     depended on to acknowledge whatever is unattractive about my track 
     record, so that it's discussable?  Do I take my courage in both hands 
     and fully, enthusiastically acknowledge another's accomplishment when 
     it outshines my own?  How much am I willing to "blurt out" when it is 
     impolitic, but allows difficult things to be worked through?
     
     If we want risk-taking, I think these are the risks that matter most.
     
     If we want to work in a trusting environment, I think these are the 
     kinds of behaviors that demonstrate the possibilities for trust.
     
     
     And if we take a stand for a dog-eat-dog environment?  If we announce 
     that Digital is a company where you can't trust people?
     
     I think if we speak for it, we're in fact creating it.
     
     	      	 						    Russ
3116.2TRUST! Great!SWENG::ROBERTThu May 26 1994 20:008
    Very thought provoking. (sp) Something to think about and mull over.
    
    Very good!
    
    Thanks for the idea!
    
    Dave
    
3116.3Trust is what we thrive onASABET::ANKERAnker Berg-SonneThu May 26 1994 22:208
        Re:                        <<< Note 3116.0 by ICS::DOANE >>>

        Trust is a strange thing.  It is a privilige an honor and a gift.
        Turst is built  over  a long time and destroyed in an instant.  I
        believe trust is more  common  than  you suggest.  I surely would
        hope so, because I want to trust others. Thanks!
        
        Anker
3116.4MR4SRV::MRPRODThu May 26 1994 22:4417
    I agree as well.  One of the manifestations of lack of trust
    is the poor manner it breeds in staffpeople and management when dealing 
    with Vendors, Customers and other peers here at work.  The respect
    and goodwill formerly endemic to this place is gone.  

    If the SLT simply hit their bullseyes, this hemorrhaging wouldn't
    be necessary.  A great deal of the strategic miss-hits were plain
    incompetence.  The SLT's job is to find the targets two years
    hence and then hit them.  Other firms such as Motorola, Intel, Lotus
    Hewlett-Packard have done that.  It's incomprehensible to me that we
    could have the fastest chip in the world, yet so be poorly prepared
    to market it in general as well as plan for the migration of our  
    installed base.  
                                                
    This erosion and unraveling did not have to happen.
    
    
3116.5SALEM::STIGBig Sister HILLARY is Watching You!!Fri May 27 1994 07:173
    a little bit of advertizement would help...
    
    tiggySs
3116.6PLAYER::BROWNLA-mazed on the info Highway!Fri May 27 1994 08:0513
    Actually, there's more trust about that people think. When I first came
    to DEC in 1986, it was one big "family". One trusted people one had
    never met, from across the world, in many ways. Help was always at hand
    for any number of things, personal and technical.
    
    Earlier this week, I sold some software to a "colleague" in the UK.
    Unhesitatingly he paid the cash into my bank account before I'd even
    worked out the bast way to send the goods, much less actually sent
    them.
    
    The basic fabric of our "family" is still ok.
    
    Laurie.
3116.7Pecking order doesn't encourage trustASDG::DFIELDthe UnitFri May 27 1994 09:2934
    
      Interesting topic.  I've always compared corporate politics to a
    human form of an animal pecking order.  In the animal world the prized
    qualities are strength and intelligence, the reward is breeding rights
    and first pick of food.  
    
      I've wondered what qualities are fostered by the corporate pecking
    order.  Here is an attempt at a brief list.   Notice that success is 
    defined as salary, scope of control, and peer recognition.  There is 
    not much in the pecking to suggesting using 'good' methods as opposed \
    to the 'bad'.
    
    
    			Corporate success traits for success
    
    		Good traits			Negative traits
    	----------------------------------------------------------------
    	Deliver what is promised		Have powerful friends
    	Accept responsibility			Claim credit for other work
    	Plan 					Expose others faults
    	Work with others			Deliver by intimidation 
    	Grow abilities in others		Keep rewards for self
    	Share rewards to motivate others	Selectively pass information
    	Predict the future			....
    	Innovate
    	....
    
    This is just a partial list, but you can see that it is not necessary
    to use 'good' methods to be a success.   I sometimes feel that Digital
    has started to use more of the 'bad' methods in its practice of
    business.  
    
    
    DanF
3116.8nice note RussCAPNET::MATHURINFri May 27 1994 11:2014
    Re .1
    
    Russ, nice note.
    
    I think you've captured the essence of digital.
    
    I haven't thought much about it lately, but you listed many of the 
    reasons that made it so important in getting a job here. (especially
    the section on Ken)
    
    One can only hope that the SLT would read it, remember it, and try to
    preserve the *fabric* you mentioned.
    
    Mike  
3116.9Is it in our Culture?OUTPOS::MURPHYDan Murphy, now at LKG.Fri May 27 1994 17:5969
    Russ, thank you for those thoughts.  Like you, I have experienced
    DEC in times when trust and openness were the norm, and I have seen
    the distructive consequences of the lack of it in more recent years.

    I believe that individuals mostly do what they do in business
    environments (and other environments) because they figure out the
    "system" they are in -- how it really works as opposed to how the
    official policies say it works -- and behave accordingly.  If the
    system supports trust and openness, people will be open.  Conversely,
    if the system treats as "success" results obtained by covert activity,
    secret dealing, and making someone else fail, then people will not be
    open.

    Accordingly, I don't believe that there is anyone in DEC who is
    "incompetent", contrary to another reply in this topic.  There may be
    people who are in jobs that do not match their abilities, but more
    likely, the person you see as incompetent is really just acting in
    accordance with his/her perception of what the system *really* wants. 
    Demming made this observation many years ago, and it is a basic
    principle of getting an organization to function effectively and
    produce quality products.

    This can also be called the "culture" of an organization.  Once upon a
    time, and not so long ago at that, DEC was considered to be a company
    which had a particularly admirable culture.  A guiding principle was
    "do the right thing", which everyone understood to mean the thing the
    would benefit the customer, the company, and the effectiveness of the
    product, rather than what would advance your own status or place in the
    pecking order.  For a system like this to work and prosper, it means
    that people have to be rewarded for doing the right thing and not
    pushed aside (or laid off) for not polishing the right boots.

    Although management cannot decree culture overnight, I believe culture
    has to flow from the top and be sustained over time.  In fact, the
    primary job of management is to shape the "system" in which people
    work, and to shape it in ways that foster creativity and effectiveness.

    Besides working the system "as it is", one other thing that causes
    people to behave in covert ways is fear.  Fear of losing your job, fear
    of not saying the politic thing to a manger, etc.  When times were
    flush and people believed that DEC could and would take care of its
    employees, these fears were minimized.  Now, with layoffs and business
    contraction a fact of life,  the fear among many people is palpable and
    a major factor in how they behave.  For those up and down the
    hierarchy, fear leads to protecting yourself first, trying to hold on
    to what you have, seeing conspiracies among others, and dividing the
    world into the "we" who will stay and the "they" that will go.  The
    layoff process itself is cloaked in secrecy, and such a process
    invariably generates suspicion and posturing among those who may be
    affected by it.

    Consequently, the first step toward eliminating distrust and fear is
    for the most senior management to begin to lead with openness and
    confidence.  It's been a long time since I've heard anyone in a
    position of significant management responsibility speak in a positive
    way about the kinds of virtues noted in .1 or in a manner that
    indicates real trust and confidence in the organization.  What I hear
    contains an undercurrent of fear and the kind of content-free
    speechifying obviously designed not to reveal any inner self or
    substantial information.

    Ken Olsen led the company with confidence for 30+ years.  I didn't
    always agree with what he did, but I could always tell him to his face
    what I thought about things and not fear negative consequences.  Would
    that all managers, indeed everyone in the company, could project that
    kind of confidence.


    dlm
3116.10Accepting the challengeHANNAH::SICHELAll things are connected.Sun May 29 1994 11:4417
Great note and invitation to dialogue as usual!

Some people have observed we seem to be resorting to less open and trustworthy
methods.  This is a common psychological response to stress.  Under stress,
people regress to more primitive phsychological functioning.  To choose
more open and trustworthy methods, we need to consider the sources of
stress in our culture, and the choices that helped create them.
For example:

  Everyone appreciates the freedom of personal transportation,
  but when we start spending hours sitting in our cars and fighting
  traffic every week, it's time to reconsider our choices and how we're
  expending our life energy.

The only way to pass a test, is to take the test.

- Peter
3116.11Trust?SALEM::GILMANThu Jun 16 1994 13:437
    Trust and loyality I took for granted until the late 1980's when
    DEC started to unravel. Then, I began to wonder if trust and loyality
    were not consistent with running successful businesses.  But I know
    better.... trust and loyality ARE consistent with successful business.
    Sometimes I think DEC management should remember that. 
    
    Jeff