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3067.1 | I'd suggest an investigation | SPECXN::GROSSMAN | And this too shall pass away. | Thu May 12 1994 19:39 | 50 |
| Your note leads me to believe that this business plan is not
well thought out. If this is a material aspect of the plan I
would suggest a detailed investigation and analysis. Whatever
answer you develop in 2 days will be incomplete.
The benefit of the "serivce feature" depends a lot on what that
service feature is designed to deliver.
For example, there is very good information that indicates having
on-site error analysis for a device eliminates the need for diagnosis.
How benefical this is depends on the complexity of the device. For
a VAX9000 you may have just saved Digital 4 hours of time that would
have normally been spent in diagnosis. Whereas a less complex machine
perhaps you've only saved yourself 15 minutes.
Another thing to consider is that sometimes the absence of a service
feature can be catastrophic as was the case recently with one of
the SCSI cab offerings from Digital. There was no way physically
to tell what drive failed. Finally a microcode workaround was
implemented that would lite the fault on the failing drive.
I'd also suggest looking at service features as not just cost
containment but also as a product differentiator. For example,
bad block detection and revectoring on DSA disk drives not only
provides a pro-active indication of failure but it guarantees
higher availability of data. This 'service feature' made
Digital disk more salable.
On the other hand if everything is throw away, then all you need
for service features is some way to know when it's broke so that
you can trash it and get another.
Without understanding the service environment, it's hard to say
what value a particular service feature has.
Hope this helps. Good luck. At least you're asking! I can give
you other examples of service features/strategies if you need. The
problem is that the target is moving on us rapidly and what may have
been a good idea in the past won't fly in the future.
It looks like the most needed service features (or the most asked for)
are those that deal with configuration and revision management. These
features allow a user to pre plan things like upgrades and also allows
them to keep up to date with patches and the like.
Russ
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3067.2 | Ask the CSC and engineer it right to start | PTOVAX::DANZAK | Pittsburgher � | Fri May 13 1994 10:39 | 54 |
| re: .0
We've crossed paths before in terms of solving product problems.
Digital is an 'over the wall' engineering company. Built to spec,
throw out the door, and then go on to next project. Over
compartmentalized.
I would go OUTSIDE of engineering, look at calls logged by CSC. Count
them and take a look at them versus product and you'll get an idea of
the quality of product.
For example, the DECserver line documentation explains various SLIP
features....yet nowhere in the guides does it explain all the pieces,
parts (i.e. modem connect, signal issues, security, etc.) in one
step-by step process for setup.
The DECnet/OSI initial implementation did *not* explain that you needed
to define a logical for MOP to successfully download any DECserver/LAVC
members etc.
The shipping version of VTX requires a special procedure to be followed
to unpack/use the MS-DOS components - you MUST have a manual to unpack
and use it, there is no brief HELP.TXT file with the 3 sentences needed
to unpack/use the product.
The initial ordering for the Gigaswitch did not say if it did or did
not come with a power supply. Power supplies were separately orderable
so some customers ordered 2 extra by mistake.
The DECnis product does not adequately document slot usage, many times
customers order ones which cannot be used.
The DEChub900 series has no adequate power consumption documentation,
it is perfectly easy to order a hub that will be totally nonfunctional
because of inadequately documented power requirements.
Servicibility begins with engineering asking the questions:
- Could somebody with no knowledge of this product successfully
use it given the product design and documentation?
- Does the design and documentation lead the user to discover how
to fully utilize all of the features and functionality to the
maximum advantage.
- Does all of our work make this an easy-to-use product with
MINIMAL in-depth product knowledge.
Ask those questions - and get data from the CSC. You will build better
products.
j
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3067.3 | Here's a classic. | PFSVAX::MCELWEE | Opponent of Oppression | Fri May 13 1994 23:53 | 28 |
| If you want an example of a product that really hurt us and
continues to do so due to lack of serviceability features, look the
DECserver 90L+ (DSRVG):
- No facility to write a crash dump to a host.
- No console mode (ODT) hardware debugger.
- No loadable/ eraseable code- requires h/w ROM replacement.
- No TSM command file support until 3 years after the product
shipped.
- A management interface completely different than any other
DECserver product we've ever built.
- Introduction of DEChub management bus support into new builds
with no notice to the Field that this new feature is required to enable
autodiscovery of the unit by DECagent 90/ DEChub900 management agents.
Other than that, what a great product. I'd like to see the
cumulative labor expense of dealing with the above.
I concur with Jon in .2- ask the CSCs for call data to get a true
reading on the hidden costs.
Phil
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3067.4 | Try LCBM | SLOAN::HOM | | Sat May 14 1994 21:58 | 12 |
| In the early 80's, a Fortran program called LCBM (Life Cylce Business
Model) was developed to allow service to do exactly what you want.
It was developed by the old Management Science group. It takes inputs
such as reliability, MTTR, MTBF, MTTPR and develops a life cycle cost.
I believe that the Mgmt Science group may have been disbanded.
Gim
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3067.5 | Gone but not forgotten.... | ASABET::BLOUT | Martha Blout, CVC Mgmt.Consultant | Sun May 15 1994 19:25 | 7 |
| RE .4:
Yes, the Management Sciences Consulting Group was disbanded in
December, 1992. R.I.P.
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3067.6 | CSSE a profit center? | ULYSSE::ROEMER | | Mon May 16 1994 09:08 | 10 |
| The base noter may not be trying to build a better serviceable
product/get service costs down. He may be looking at selling
serviceability expertise. The key argument to a potential taker of
this type of consulting would be that it pays off in lower service
cost/faster repair times.
Al
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