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3024.1 | Lucente Gone? | POBOX::SCHWARTZINGE | It's gonna get better | Mon Apr 25 1994 12:58 | 5 |
| We are hearing a rumor here in Chicago that Ed Lucente has quit!
Any truth to this, anyone?
J
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3024.2 | see previous topic | CVG::THOMPSON | An AlphaGeneration Noter | Mon Apr 25 1994 12:58 | 3 |
| Yes, it's true. See topic 3023 in this conference.
Alfred
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3024.3 | | AXEL::FOLEY | Rebel without a Clue | Mon Apr 25 1994 12:58 | 5 |
|
Yes. Read 3023.0
mike
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3024.4 | CFO & PALMER | POBOX::SCHWARTZINGE | It's gonna get better | Mon Apr 25 1994 13:37 | 3 |
| We have now heard that the CFO and Palmer are out also!
J
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3024.5 | don't believe everything you hear | RUMOR::FALEK | ex-TU58 King | Mon Apr 25 1994 13:40 | 1 |
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3024.6 | ..not everything you hear, but: | ANGLIN::ROGERS | Sometimes you just gotta play hurt | Mon Apr 25 1994 14:22 | 3 |
| But believe some of it. I think either the CFO or BP will have to take
the fall for this quarter's surprise.
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3024.7 | | TOOK::DELBALSO | I (spade) my (dog face) | Mon Apr 25 1994 14:24 | 6 |
| Just out of curiosity, how could the CFO become culpable for the loss?
It's not a position I normally associate with the company's direction,
or lack thereof.
-Jack
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3024.8 | | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Mon Apr 25 1994 14:26 | 2 |
| Not culpable for the loss, but perhaps culpable for not recognizing the
extent of the loss until so late.
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3024.9 | | ISLNDS::YANNEKIS | | Mon Apr 25 1994 14:50 | 25 |
|
> Just out of curiosity, how could the CFO become culpable for the loss?
>
> It's not a position I normally associate with the company's direction,
> or lack thereof.
I believe a ton of our problems are because we can not accurately
describe how much our products cost due to lousy cost accounting
practices.
I believe a ton of our problems are because we can not accurately
describe how profitable each of our businesses are due to lousy cost
accounting practices.
I believe aquiring financial information is incredibly slow,
inaccurate, and expensive.
I also have seen little to believe this is a situation that is
improving a heck of a lot. IMO the CFO is vital in providing the
methods to track the needed info to manage and lead a organization.
Methods and infor currently lacking at Digital.
IMO of course,
Greg
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3024.10 | Don't let the door hit you.... | GRANPA::DMITCHELL | | Mon Apr 25 1994 15:19 | 4 |
| Who is gonna blow "REVEILLE" for the sales force?
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3024.11 | | DPDMAI::TARASI | | Mon Apr 25 1994 15:27 | 2 |
| Is that REVEILLE or "TAPS"!
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3024.12 | | POCUS::OHARA | Reverend Middleware | Mon Apr 25 1994 15:36 | 8 |
| Pesatori officially owns the sales force, now, but I expect him to name someone
to actually run the field organization.
For all Lucente's apparant problems, at least the guy had sales experience.
BTW, Bob Russell (recently named to head industry marketing in the US) also
resigned.
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3024.13 | Mebbe THIS is what was floating around.. | POWDML::MCDONOUGH | | Mon Apr 25 1994 15:41 | 2 |
| Oppinger, CFO Europe, has also left..
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3024.14 | | GRANMA::MWANNEMACHER | treat others well | Mon Apr 25 1994 16:52 | 4 |
|
Did it seem strange to anyone that the announcement of Lucente's
departure was strung on the end of the announcement of someone elses
taking over his responsibilities?
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3024.15 | | QBUS::M_PARISE | Southern, but no comfort | Mon Apr 25 1994 17:14 | 13 |
| <<< Note 3024.14 by GRANMA::MWANNEMACHER "treat others well" >>>
< Did it seem strange to anyone that the announcement of Lucente's
< departure was strung on the end of the announcement of someone
< elses
< taking over his responsibilities?
Not lost on these sore eyes. Some might call it proper communication
with the employees, others might call it class. Whatever you call it
we obviously lack it.
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3024.16 | If it smells like a herring... | AMCUCS::YOUNG | I'd like to be...under the sea... | Mon Apr 25 1994 17:55 | 23 |
| <<< Note 3024.14 by GRANMA::MWANNEMACHER "treat others well" >>>
> < Did it seem strange to anyone that the announcement of Lucente's
> < departure was strung on the end of the announcement of someone
> < elses
> < taking over his responsibilities?
>
> Not lost on these sore eyes. Some might call it proper communication
> with the employees, others might call it class. Whatever you call it
> we obviously lack it.
It seems though that the real importance of this method of notification (as
well as Lucente's destination) has escaped most everyone. Why in the world
would you go from a high-paying job in industry to a professor at a university?
Think about that one for a while.
If you ask me, Lucente tried to outsmart 'ol Bob by publicly embarrassing
him with the REAL numbers and he paid for it with his career!
IMHO cw
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3024.17 | So what's one more anomoly between friends | NESSIE::SOJDA | | Mon Apr 25 1994 17:55 | 9 |
| >Did it seem strange to anyone that the announcement of Lucente's
>departure was strung on the end of the announcement of someone
>elses
>taking over his responsibilities?
Yes, I noticed that and I agree, it seemed out of the ordinary...
But so do a lot of things around here these days.
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3024.18 | No, it's just spin control... | CALDEC::FEIT | Andy Feit, dtn 223-3370, Alpha Personal Systems Mktg | Mon Apr 25 1994 19:00 | 7 |
|
Would you rather say: Our Executive V.P. left so we're putting
someone else in to do the job.
or: The V.P. in charge of one of our most
successful businesses will now manage
all our business, and by the way, the
guy that brought us Q3 is gone.
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3024.19 | Russel gone too ??? | SWAM1::MCCLURE_PA | | Mon Apr 25 1994 19:19 | 6 |
| Bob Russell resigned ??? I heard just 15 minutes ago that he's still
around, and scheduled a concall with his marketing organization
tomorrow. Please verify or give my reference to something in writing ?
These rumors are starting to drive me nuts !!!!! Is anyone left in
management or was it a clean sweep ???
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3024.20 | he was given the boot.. | ZIPLOK::PASQUALE | | Mon Apr 25 1994 19:44 | 7 |
| re .1
He was most likely given the boot. The timing suggests that his leaving
is a tad more than mere coincidence. For some unknown reason, when
VP's get terminated, they aren't booted out as the rest of us would be,
they are shown the trashcan and then must jump into it themselves.
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3024.21 | 1992 Palmer - managers will be accountable! | EPAVAX::CARLOTTI | Rick Carlotti, DTN 440-7229, Sales Support | Mon Apr 25 1994 23:37 | 50 |
| Ed Lucente visited Pittsburgh a couple of weeks ago to:
1. hold a "town meeting"
2. visit Carnegie Mellon - the reason is now clear
3. spend the weekend with his mom.
For some reason, despite the content of town meetings, I always find these
forums interesting since it gives some insight into the thought processes of a
senior VP.
I found myself agreeing with much of Lucente's candid assessment of Digital's
problems, but there was one story that he told which really made me wonder.
He related the fact that Personnel had convened some top performing employees
from various areas throughout the world to solicit their inputs on the company,
the management, etc. The overwhelming feedback was that people were sick of
change (I took this to mean organizational) and that morale was extremely low,
a fact which is no surprise to any of us. Lucente went on to say that
Personnel made various recommendations about how to deal with these issues, but
he rejected all of them!
His reasoning was that the industry will continue to change at a rapid pace and
that Digital, since we waited too long to change, will need to change more
rapidly than the average. It seems to me that people are not reacting so much
to changing paradigms within our industry as they are to flip-flop reorgs every
six to nine months which just continue to shift our problems from column A to
column B and back again.
His reaction to the "low morale" issue was to say that morale would be better
if we fixed the internal systems so that we could ship what we sell in a timely
fashion and not get so hung up with internal paperwork (there was more to his
comment, but the gist of it was that we don't have low morale as much as high
frustration levels). While I'm sure that fixing these problems would make us
somewhat happier, I think that is the tip of the iceberg. He seemed to totally
dismiss the rest of the iceberg.
I don't understand how we can turn things around without addressing the moral
issue. It's a cancer that just keeps eating away at what left of the spirit of
Digital.
I am feeling good about this move. I don't know if I'll have a place in this
company over the next couple of years, but I feel better about the possibility
of a turnaround now that there seems to be a "team" at the top. I guess when
you consider all of the talk about selling hardware vs. software, product vs.
services, CBUs vs. geographies, there seemed to be a definite conflict between
Ed Lucente's strategy and the rest of the SLT. Maybe now the mixed messages
will stop and we can get on with it.
Here's hoping!
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3024.22 | Werner Oppliger | TAVIS::BARPC::Baruch | Live your dreams today! | Tue Apr 26 1994 11:56 | 18 |
| > Oppinger, CFO Europe, has also left..
Just for the record, and based on a factual announcement (not a
rumour):
Werner Oppliger, a much respected, 18 year veteran of Digital, is
the person you are referring to. He was the VP Finance and CFO
for Europe until January, 1994, when he moved to the position of
VP Office of the President in Europe. He is leaving the company
at the end of April and will be missed by many. He has been
requested to continue as Chairman of the Boards of both the German
and Swiss subsidiaries, and as a member of the boards of two other
Digital entities.
Shalom
Baruch
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3024.23 | | HANNAH::KOVNER | Everything you know is wrong! | Tue Apr 26 1994 12:30 | 10 |
| From what I have heard and can put together (and I'm NOT privy to the SLT's
internal communications, so don't take this as the absolute truth), there was
conflict within the SLT about moving towards selling more through distributors
and stores. Pesatore and Cabrinetty both support using distributors. I believe
Lucente was on the other side of this battle. We can guess who won.
My opinion is that as our product sales move towards low-margin products, we
have to move towards low-cost sales. Distributors and stores cost us less per
sale. But then, I'm biased, working for Components and Perhipherals, which has
been moving to commodity markets for years.
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3024.24 | Front page WSJ today= Dirty Laundry | PARVAX::SCHUSTAK | Join the AlphaGeneration! | Tue Apr 26 1994 12:40 | 5 |
| I love all this press we got today, keeping our name in front of our
clients and all that.
I don't have this on-line, but whoever can, should extract it and put
in this conference, so that we know what our customers are reading.
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3024.25 | And we | POWDML::KGREENE | | Tue Apr 26 1994 13:07 | 8 |
| RE: .24
Yup, my wife just called to tell me that Digital made front page
headlines in today's WSJ. She's making a copy for me to read tonight.
I think it was reaction to the Lucente/Pesatori announcement.
kjg
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3024.26 | Wall Street Journal article ( posted without permission) | NOVA::R_ANDERSON | My timing is Digital. | Tue Apr 26 1994 13:17 | 237 |
| Striving to Adapt: At Digital Equipment, A Resignation Reveals Key Problem:
Selling; Moving Goods but Making Scant Profit, Firm Ousts Head of Its
Sales Force; Board Puts Pressure on CEO
By John R. Wilke Staff Reporter of The Wall Street Journal
Just last month, Digital Equipment Corp.'s chief executive
officer, Robert B. Palmer, had reason to believe the loss-plagued
computer maker was turning around: Reports from the sales force
indicated revenue was holding up and new products were taking off.
But Mr. Palmer was jolted by a rude surprise. While product sales
weren't bad in the company's fiscal third quarter, service revenue
was off sharply, sales costs were rising and rampant discounting was
swallowing any possible profit. The resulting $183 million loss led
to a run on Digital's stock, lower credit ratings and new worries
about the future of a company once regarded as among the best in the
business because of its well-engineered machines.
In the wake of the poor results, the board of directors is giving
the 53-year-old Mr. Palmer one more quarter to show new progress
toward a turnaround, company insiders say.
At a board meeting last week, it also agreed with Mr. Palmer --
who inherited a company burdened by the excess of its huge successes
throughout the 1980s -- that the company's No. 2 executive, sales
and marketing chief Edward E. Lucente, had to go. Mr. Lucente
resigned yesterday, effective immediately. Digital named Enrico
Pesatori, head of its fast-growing personal-computer unit, to
succeed him.
Mr. Lucente, 54, regarded by some as a possible successor to Mr.
Palmer, is apparently being held accountable for not cutting
expenses deeply enough and losing control of a huge and expensive
push to close business at the end of the latest quarter. Both Mr.
Lucente and Mr. Palmer declined comment.
Indeed, selling strategy is a central challenge for Digital. The
company faces problems that have long proved intractable with its
sales force, which Mr. Lucente, once one of International Business
Machines Corp.'s star sales executives, couldn't get into shape.
Years of neglect by top management formed the sales force into "the
worst in the world" in individual productivity, Mr. Palmer said
shortly after taking the CEO job 18 months ago.
Long paid on a salary basis without commissions, Digital's sales
force attracted "the opposite of the kind of person drawn to sales
across the rest of the computer industry -- it wasn't a risk-taking
culture," says Jack Falvey, a management consultant. And at about
20,000 strong, the sales force now accounts for almost a fifth of
Digital's work force of 92,000, down from a 1989 peak of 126,000.
But it is certain to shrink. The board also backed an accelerated
cost-cutting plan likely to slash the work force by an additional
20,000 people in the next two years, which will prompt another
charge against earnings, people close to the company say.
But Mr. Lucente's departure could also add to turmoil in the
senior ranks, which have already been reorganized repeatedly. In a
year on the job, Mr. Lucente rapidly consolidated power, touching
every aspect of the company's operations and filling essential posts
with loyalists. "Everything that wasn't nailed down, he owned," a
sales executive says. Another says that Digital management "is going
to discover Lucente's people are now running most of the company."
Mr. Lucente's ouster, according to people familiar with the
board's deliberations, was also a rejection of an abrasive and
autocratic management style. "People were afraid to tell him the bad
news," despite worsening conditions in the field, says one person.
Digital has lost more than $3 billion in the past three years in
its so-far unsuccessful struggle to adapt to a changing market. More
computer buyers want smaller machines that run on standard software,
not the proprietary VAX systems that have been Digital's mainstay.
Annual revenue is stagnant at about $14 billion.
Digital has products that address the new needs, including
personal computers, and a speedy new microchip, the Alpha. But
companies like Digital that are shifting to standard, low-margin
products also need different distribution channels, such as retail
stores and direct-mail sales. Mr. Palmer's problem is that Digital
doesn't have a large number of those channels open. Without them, he
still must rely on the sales force. After last quarter's disastrous
results, Mr. Palmer said Digital had too many salespeople -- but
added that the company can't cut them without forfeiting revenue.
For a long while, Digital's products were the hottest alternative
to mainframe computers, and because they were cheaper, they almost
sold themselves. But when competition arrived, the Digital sales
staff was hopelessly outclassed. Digital founder Kenneth H. Olsen
had always preached that the company should never sell customers
something they didn't need, so Digital's salespeople spent much of
their time dwelling on technical explanations, and did little hard
selling.
The lack of commissions for years drove away good salespeople.
When commissions were put in place by Mr. Palmer, the new system
backfired under Mr. Lucente's oversight, insiders say. Some salesmen
sold product at little or no profit to pump up volume -- and their
compensation. The sales force has been reorganized over and over,
the latest shakeup overturning a new structure that Mr. Palmer
himself put in place. When top management wanted middle managers cut
from the sales ranks, they asked middle managers to carry out the
order. So, many front-line people serving customers got the ax while
the bulk of managers remained.
Russell Forquer, a former Digital salesman in Erie, Pa., was one
of the people let go. Only weeks before he was dismissed in December
1992, he was given a raise, a bonus and a trip to Hawaii, to
recognize his strong performance along with several hundred of
Digital's other top salespeople. Mr. Forquer says he sold $2.1
million in Digital equipment in his last year, but was let go in an
across-the-board cost-cutting move. But when his boss's position was
eventually eliminated, Mr. Forquer says, he was able to find another
sales-management job with the company.
"They were supposed to eliminate the overhead in the sales force,
not the people on the street making sales," he says. "But the
old-boy network was too strong." He contends upper management "has
no idea what is going on in the trenches."
Today, he still sells Digital computers, "the best on the
market." But he sells them for one of the company's outside
distributors, which yields a lower profit for Digital. He did more
than $1.7 million in sales in his 11 months away from the company.
Although Digital, which is based in Maynard, Mass., retains many
top-notch salespeople, its sales productivity overall is wanting.
Hewlett-Packard Co., which recently surpassed Digital as the No. 2
computer maker behind IBM, has revenue roughly equal to more than
$300,000 for each employee. Digital's current revenue per employee
is half of that, at $155,000.
Indeed, Digital's engineering-driven culture had long placed
sales and marketing in the back seat. At a 1990 exposition of the
company's products, for instance, a special area was set up to show
customers some of the hottest products the company still had in the
development laboratories. But the night before, while the exhibit
was being set up, salespeople who needed a preview were barred from
the area; the show's manager erected a wall of large potted plants
to keep them from seeing what was inside.
John Whiteside, a software engineer and management specialist who
left Digital in 1992, says isolation of the sales force from the
engineering heart of the company caused its products "to become more
and more detached from market realities and what customers were
telling the sales force that they actually wanted. Without that
input from sales, we were blind to that."
At the same time, he says, "the engineering community often
wouldn't explain products fully, or when salepeople would ask for
help from the field, they'd be told to figure it out for
themselves."
In the latest quarter, insiders say the new sales-commission plan
may have helped deepen the loss. They say that discounts or other
sweet terms were struck in the field, without adequate management
controls, and that this lack of oversight is being placed at Mr.
Lucente's door.
Meanwhile, with so much talk about the need to shrink the sales
force, those who are left are on edge. "People are scared. Tap
someone on the shoulder and they're liable to jump a foot in the
air," says a top salesman. "Everyone's working flat-out to make
their fourth-quarter numbers -- yet a lot of them know that on July
1st they're history."
Some salesmen staunchly defend Mr. Lucente, saying he represents
the toughness and discipline that has long been lacking at the
company. But it was Mr. Lucente's harsh management style that
clinched his departure, say people familiar with last week's board
meeting. One person at the meeting says the board received reports
that his senior management group was "riven by resentment and anger"
over what was described as Mr. Lucente's domineering management
style.
Last month, for instance, Mr. Lucente visited Dallas to meet some
of his troops in an attempt to boost morale. His message: I'm here
to listen -- ask me anything. But when a salesman requested
elaboration of the company's software strategy, which he called
"unclear," Mr. Lucente shot back that he was "sick of answering this
question," according to one attendee. Mr. Lucente then "took his
head off, belittling him in front of the whole room. Needless to
say, no one else asked anything."
So Digital turned to the 53-year-old Mr. Pesatori, effectively
making him second in command. Under the direction of Mr. Pesatori, a
former senior executive of Ing. C. Olivetti and Zenith Data Systems,
Digital has jumped from also-ran to one of the top 10 PC makers,
with more than $1 billion in sales last year. The unit recently
turned profitable, and its sales continue to grow at more than a
100% annual rate, executives say.
Indeed, the PC unit is poised to overtake Dell Computer Corp. in
sales. It will bring in higher revenue in the current quarter than
Dell posted in its just-reported fiscal fourth quarter, insiders
say.
More important, the Italian-born Mr. Pesatori's unit, which is
battling in a brutally competitive market, has succeeded in building
a structure that Digital now hopes to establish on a broader scale.
The unit has become profitable by selling machines through retail
and other indirect channels, not through Digital's traditional and
costly direct-sales approach.
"Enrico clearly understands the direction the business has to
go," says Jay P. Stevens, an analyst at Dean Witter. "He's shown he
knows how to make a low-margin, volume-driven business profitable."
Mr. Stevens notes that Digital has said it hopes to redirect its
sales model so that about 60% of its business flows through indirect
channels, with the rest through the direct sales force. As it now
stands, that ratio is 75% direct sales to only 25% indirect.
As for Mr. Lucente, Digital announced that he will become
executive in residence at one of the graduate schools of Carnegie
Mellon University, his alma mater.
The latest events are a bitter turn for Mr. Lucente. He has been
in the upper echelon at three companies now, but always missed the
brass ring. Barely a year ago, Digital hired him with hopes he would
tighten and professionalize its sales force.
Mr. Lucente spent 31 years at IBM, and was seen as one of a
handful of candidates for the top job before leaving in 1991 for
Northern Telecom Ltd., where he was the second-ranking executive. He
resigned early last year.
At IBM, one of Mr. Lucente's assignments was to turn technicians,
office workers and manufacturing workers into salespeople. It was a
difficult and unpopular task.
When he was hired by Digital, many analysts applauded, predicting
cost-cutting and more aggressive sales incentives would improve
overall results. At the time he announced Mr. Lucente's hiring, Mr.
Palmer said: "I don't think I've interviewed so many people for any
one position . . . it took a while, but I'm confident that we now
have the right person."
Now, the departure of his hand-picked lieutenant reflects badly
on Mr. Palmer. And it has heightened the pressure on him to produce
results. An executive close to Mr. Palmer denied last night,
however, that he had been given an explicit performance deadline by
the board.
"They didn't put a time clock on this," he said. "But there isn't
a CEO in America anymore who isn't on trial every day."
DEC's Directors
-- Robert B. Palmer, president and chief executive of company.
-- Vernon R. Alden, former chairman, the Boston Co.
-- Philip Caldwell, senior managing director of Lehman Brothers,
retired chairman of Ford.
-- Colby H. Chandler, retired chairman of Eastman Kodak.
-- Arnaud de Vitry, engineering consultant.
-- Robert R. Everett, retired president of Mitre Corp.
-- Kathleen F. Feldstein, president of Economics Studies Inc.
-- Thomas P. Gerrity, dean, Wharton School of the Univ. of
Pennsylvania.
-- Thomas L. Phillips, retired chairman of Raytheon.
-- Delbert C. Staley, retired chairman of Nynex.
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3024.27 | Not the resolution of our problems | ANGLIN::ROGERS | Sometimes you just gotta play hurt | Tue Apr 26 1994 13:21 | 8 |
| re: .21
Lucente did not create the disconnect between all the strategies. His
style was not to sweep those differences under the rug, as is often
done here.
Lucente's departure will not solve the problems. It will, at best,
make some people feel better for a short time.
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3024.28 | necessary, but still bad news | LGP30::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (DTN 223-8576, MSO2-2/A2, IM&T) | Tue Apr 26 1994 13:36 | 10 |
| re Note 3024.27 by ANGLIN::ROGERS:
> Lucente's departure will not solve the problems. It will, at best,
> make some people feel better for a short time.
Agreed -- it is really a return to square one (or perhaps
two?) on the road to recovery, with much less remaining time
to succeed.
Bob
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3024.29 | Is there a Leader among us? | SMAUG::WADDINGTON | Brother, can you paradigm? | Tue Apr 26 1994 13:42 | 6 |
| It is rare when, in a company this size, some individual's departure
solves significant problems. Mr. Lucente's departure is not likely to
solve anything. What we ALL do is far more important. Unfortunately,
we ALL don't agree on what the right thing to do is. I, for one, look
forward to Mr. Pessatore's leadership. If he won't lead, then perhaps
we'll ALL go the way of Mr. L.
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3024.30 | | USCTR1::KFERRIS | | Tue Apr 26 1994 14:10 | 13 |
| re: .19
I just read your note and flipped!!!
Bob and I used to work together a few years back, what a guy -
excellent!
I have a call into Bob right now to find out what's going on.
But I'm pretty sure it's true! *8^(
/Kristin
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3024.31 | I thought I was a good guy, but WSJ says its my fault! | ASABET::ANKER | Anker Berg-Sonne | Tue Apr 26 1994 15:31 | 24 |
| Re: <<< Note 3024.26 by NOVA::R_ANDERSON "My timing is Digital." >>>
> Indeed, Digital's engineering-driven culture had long placed
> sales and marketing in the back seat. At a 1990 exposition of the
> company's products, for instance, a special area was set up to show
> customers some of the hottest products the company still had in the
> development laboratories. But the night before, while the exhibit
> was being set up, salespeople who needed a preview were barred from
> the area; the show's manager erected a wall of large potted plants
> to keep them from seeing what was inside.
This is the Innovation Showcase, which I ran. The truth is that
the weekends were used for Sales Training and Sales Management
decided that the "new stuff" wasn't necessary. I personally put
the potted plants up to prevent roving sales reps from destroying
the equipment before customers had a chance to see it. I spent
one weekend on the floor throwing reps out of the area, including
catching one red-handed who had just broken one of our displays.
He had the broken piece in his hand! So now I'm responsible for
the downfall of the company - and I thought I was one of the good
guys!
Anker
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3024.32 | | GUCCI::RWARRENFELTZ | Follow the Money! | Tue Apr 26 1994 15:50 | 4 |
| Anker:
You should know better than to let a potted plant do your dirty wortk
for ya!
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3024.33 | | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Tue Apr 26 1994 16:08 | 13 |
| > This is the Innovation Showcase, which I ran. The truth is that
> the weekends were used for Sales Training and Sales Management
> decided that the "new stuff" wasn't necessary. I personally put
> the potted plants up to prevent roving sales reps from destroying
> the equipment before customers had a chance to see it. I spent
> one weekend on the floor throwing reps out of the area...
Perhaps I'm missing something. Sales management decides your stuff isn't
necessary, but some entrepreneural sales reps decide otherwise. Despite
the fact that the weekends are set aside for sales training, you prevent
these reps from looking at your stuff because they might break it. Why
not provide some hand-holding so they can learn about your stuff *without*
breaking it?
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3024.34 | | GRANMA::MWANNEMACHER | built for comfort | Tue Apr 26 1994 16:18 | 6 |
|
Perhaps Anker was in charge of the show and was not an expert on using
the equipment.
Mike
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3024.35 | yeah you are missing something - missing resources | CVG::THOMPSON | An AlphaGeneration Noter | Tue Apr 26 1994 16:52 | 27 |
|
>Perhaps I'm missing something. Sales management decides your stuff isn't
>necessary, but some entrepreneural sales reps decide otherwise. Despite
>the fact that the weekends are set aside for sales training, you prevent
>these reps from looking at your stuff because they might break it. Why
>not provide some hand-holding so they can learn about your stuff *without*
>breaking it?
Do you have any idea what sort of hours people put in on DECWORLD?
The people working setup for DECWORLD put in very long hours. Staying until
1-2 in the morning, catching a few hours of sleep and returning by 6-7
for the next day's work. During the show it wasn't much better. I know
that I found out the hard way that the T shuts down during the night
at least once. (Unbelievable for a New Yorker like myself)
Most people were burnt out by the week end. There were no extra people
to cover the week ends. Most people put in 40 hours by Tuesday for
pete sake! Letting non technical people "play" with new and sometimes
frail equipment would have been irresponsible. If trainers had been
there - fine - let them teach. But not Joe random people with out a
clue. Perhaps you should vent your anger at the people who are
responsible for the decision not to fund baby sitters and not at the
people trying to keep the demos going. Or do you think it would have
been a good thing to let untrained non technical people break the
equipment so that demos to customers didn't take place?
Alfred
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3024.36 | | SLPPRS::SCHAFER | Mark Schafer, Development Assistance | Wed Apr 27 1994 10:55 | 5 |
| Hey, don't get excited. Newspaper columnists love this stuff (inside
looks) because it's factual and it leads the reader to conclusions that
the writer fancies.
Mark
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3024.37 | So I'm not even funny any more | ASABET::ANKER | Anker Berg-Sonne | Wed Apr 27 1994 12:30 | 10 |
| .-2 is right, I was the manager of the Innovation Showcase and
wasn't able to give the demonstrations, also, the reps were
supposed to be somewhere else, getting the training that had been
scheduled. Finally, they know whet was in there from
descriptions that has been sent out beforehand.
I was just trying to be funny, I don't believe any reps felt
deprived, and I have no clue where the WSJ got the story from!
Anker
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3024.38 | | POCUS::OHARA | Reverend Middleware | Wed Apr 27 1994 12:33 | 12 |
| >> <<< Note 3024.19 by SWAM1::MCCLURE_PA >>>
>> -< Russel gone too ??? >-
>> Bob Russell resigned ??? I heard just 15 minutes ago that he's still
>> around, and scheduled a concall with his marketing organization
>> tomorrow. Please verify or give my reference to something in writing ?
>> These rumors are starting to drive me nuts !!!!! Is anyone left in
>> management or was it a clean sweep ???
A memo I saw from Russ Gullotti has oficially confirmed this.
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3024.39 | ?? | ICS::DONNELLAN | | Wed Apr 27 1994 12:42 | 4 |
| re -1
What did Russ's memo confirm? His resignation or the con call?
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3024.40 | | CSOA1::RANKIN | | Wed Apr 27 1994 12:49 | 1 |
| His resignation is confirmed
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3024.41 | | POCUS::OHARA | Reverend Middleware | Wed Apr 27 1994 12:55 | 9 |
| >> <<< Note 3024.39 by ICS::DONNELLAN >>>
>> -< ?? >-
>> re -1
>> What did Russ's memo confirm? His resignation or the con call?
The resignation.
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3024.42 | | POCUS::OHARA | Reverend Middleware | Thu Apr 28 1994 12:28 | 5 |
| Not having seen a "public" announcement on Russell yet, I wonder if the SLT
is trying to keep things under wraps so as not to create the impression of
a mass executive exodus in the sales and marketing ranks.
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3024.43 | | ROWLET::AINSLEY | Less than 150 kts. is TOO slow! | Thu Apr 28 1994 13:00 | 5 |
| re: .42
I received a mail message yesterday or today concerning his leaving.
Bob
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3024.44 | | POCUS::OHARA | Reverend Middleware | Fri Apr 29 1994 08:31 | 1 |
| Ed Kamins, VP US Channels/SME, also resigned.
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3024.45 | | NOVA::FISHER | Tay-unned, rey-usted, rey-ady | Fri Apr 29 1994 08:41 | 3 |
| 'ed count reduced by 2 this week alone...
ed
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3024.46 | | GUCCI::RWARRENFELTZ | Follow the Money! | Fri Apr 29 1994 08:47 | 1 |
| more than that in the field...
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3024.47 | Wow! Down to our last 297 VPs eh? | SUBURB::POWELLM | Nostalgia isn't what it used to be! | Fri Apr 29 1994 08:48 | 1 |
|
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3024.48 | | GRANMA::MWANNEMACHER | built for comfort | Fri Apr 29 1994 13:50 | 3 |
|
Just got word that Ralph Christensen has left digital (VP of Human
resources?)
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3024.49 | | TRLIAN::GORDON | | Fri Apr 29 1994 13:57 | 3 |
| re: -.1
must have disagreed with the "cut our way to profits" mentality...
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3024.50 | +1 VP | MEMIT::SILVERBERG_M | Mark Silverberg MLO1-3/H20 | Fri Apr 29 1994 14:20 | 6 |
| but we just added a new VP in Human Resources...VP of Training &
Learning I think...Hope Greenfield (sorry if I got her new title
wrong).
Mark
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3024.51 | A Canadian newspapaper's view | TROOA::DAL_MOLIN | | Fri Apr 29 1994 14:39 | 11 |
| Below Lucente's departure notice in the Globe and Mail ( reprint of the
Wall St. Journal Article) "Northern Telecom Posts Surprise Profit".
Coincidence? The Globe had published a scathing article on Paul Stern
and Ed Lucente about a month before/after (can't remember which) Ed
joined Digital. Coincidence?
This is scary stuff.
Joseph
ps.The Globe is Canada's national newspaper
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3024.52 | Where's Ed now, you ask??? | PTOSS1::BREZLER | | Fri Feb 14 1997 16:20 | 76 |
| Incase you've lost track of our old friend...
=====================================================
Lucente Named To CompuServe Board of Directors
SOURCE: PR Newswire
DATE: Thursday, October 31, 1996
COLUMBUS, Ohio, Oct. 30 /PRNewswire/ via Individual Inc. -- CompuServe
Corporation (Nasdaq: CSRV)
today announced that Edward E. Lucente, 57, has been elected to the
company's board of directors. Lucente, who
has worked 36 years in the computing and telecommunications industries,
is currently serving on an interim basis as
president and chief executive officer of Liant Software Corporation in
Framingham, Mass., where he is also a
member of the board of directors.
Prior to his work at Liant, Lucente was an executive-in-residence at
Carnegie Mellon University Graduate School
of Industrial Administration in Pittsburgh. He also served as vice
president of worldwide sales and marketing at
Digital Equipment Corporation in Maynard, Mass., and as executive vice
president of worldwide sales and
marketing for Northern Telecom Limited in Toronto. Previously Lucente
spent 30 years at IBM Corporation
where he held several senior executive positions, including IBM vice
president and group executive of U.S. sales
and marketing, and president, IBM Asia Pacific, in Tokyo.
"Ed has a strong technology background with several industry leaders,
and his expertise will be a valuable addition
to the board," said Frank L. Salizzoni, CompuServe's chairman. "He has
successfully led these companies through
highly aggressive and competitive markets, and Ed's experience will
help the board better position CompuServe in
today's volatile online environment."
In addition to his current board positions, Lucente is a member of the
board of directors of Hypres Corporation,
Elmsford, N.Y.; Information Resources, Inc., Chicago; and GENICOM
Corporation, Chantilly, Va. He is a
lifetime trustee of Carnegie Mellon University and also a member of the
school's business advisory council for the
Graduate School of Industrial Administration. He is a member of the
U.S.-Japan Business Council.
Lucente received a bachelor of science degree in civil engineering from
Carnegie Mellon University and also
attended Kellogg Graduate School of Business in Chicago and the Aspen
Institute for Humanities, Aspen, Colo. A
resident of Sanibel Island, Fla., he and his wife, Helaine, have six
children.
Founded in 1969, CompuServe provides the world's most comprehensive
online/Internet access through its three
brands -- CompuServe, WOW! and SPRYNET. Through CompuServe, its
Japanese licensee NIFTY-Serve and
its affiliates around the world, more than 5 million home and business
users in more than 185 countries are
connected online and to the Internet. CompuServe Network Services
manages complex global data
communication environments for more than 1,000 corporate customers.
With world headquarters in Columbus,
Ohio, CompuServe's offices include European centers in London, Munich,
Amsterdam, Zurich and Paris.
SOURCE CompuServe Corporation
/CONTACT: Gail Whitcomb of CompuServe, 614-538-4457/ (CSRV)
[10-30-96 at 09:35 EST, PR Newswire, File: p1030093.401]
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3024.53 | | NCMAIL::SMITHB | | Sat Feb 15 1997 11:00 | 1 |
| Maybe now is the time to buy AOL stock..
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3024.54 | apparently 4 months with Lucente was enough | GRANPA::JWOOD | | Mon Feb 17 1997 16:40 | 46 |
| CompuServe CEO Massey Resigns
Monday, February 17, 1997; 3:01 p.m. EST
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Robert J. Massey,
president and chief executive officer of the
CompuServe computer online service, resigned
suddenly today.
A written statement from CompuServe's parent,
H&R Block Inc., said Massey quit to
pursue other interests.
Company spokesman Steve Conway said the
resignation had nothing to do with
CompuServe's recent financial troubles.
Conway said Massey was unavailable for comment.
The company, the nation's second largest
online service provider with 3.3 million customers,
reported a $58 million loss in the quarter
ended Oct. 31. It also shut down its family oriented
WOW! service Jan. 31, saying it would center
its marketing to businesses.
``Our goal remains a speedy and sustained
turnaround at CompuServe and under Bob's
leadership, the company has made progress in
that direction,'' CompuServe Chairman Frank
L. Salizzoni said in the statement today.
Salizzoni, who also is chief executive of H&R
Block, will assume Massey's duties on an
interim basis while the company looks for a
successor. He will divide his time between
CompuServe and his work at H&R Block, the
company said.
Kansas City, Mo.-based H&R Block owns about
80 percent of CompuServe.
Massey, 50, joined CompuServe in 1976 and
became chief executive in June 1995.
� Copyright 1997 The
Associated Press
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