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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

2972.0. "Simple ideas to improve things" by RUTILE::AUNGIER (Live for today, plan for tomorrow) Wed Mar 30 1994 18:55

    	I was thinking how would I change Digital if I had the power to do so.
    	I have picked some very simple examples within the data centre
    	management area to start with.
    
    	What could we sell on the market if we had it?
    
    	UNIX system administrators
    
    	Do we have many within Digital?	
    
    	No
    
    	How could we increase the pool of people?
    
    	Get the very best ones we have who work a real environment and assign 
    	them some apprentices. They would take over eventually from the best 
    	ones and take on other apprentices. 
    
    
    	How could we keep them once they were trained?
    
	Make sure that these people have the opportunity to move around sites. 
    	Offer challenging positions within customer sites and a decent
    	remuration.
    
    	Everybodys a winner. It's late now but other people must have
    	simple ideas in specific areas where we could fill the demands
    	of customers and have very good profit margins.
    
    	Ren�
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2972.1Been wrong before, but..GUCCI::HERBNew Personal Name coming soon!Wed Mar 30 1994 22:085
    >        What could we sell on the market if we had it?
    >UNIX system administrators
     
    I view a customers's shortage of this expertise as a problem that we
    can offer technology solutions to such as DECathena rather than bodies.
2972.2Digital PC's At Departmental StoresROMEOS::MANN_JAJesse MannThu Mar 31 1994 02:0213
    When ever I go to different stores that sell computers I always
    wonder why Digital cannot sell our PC's at Sears, Montogomery Wards
    Circuit City, Fry's Electronics, Best, Service Merchandise, Costo
    and many others that sell PC's of other major brands. Do we have to
    pay these stores to display or sell our PC's  I know of only one
    store here in Bay area which was selling and advertising Digital PC's
    Wolf Computers which is no longer in business.
    
    Any input or ideas are welcome.
    
    
    J Mann
    
2972.3RUTILE::AUNGIERLive for today, plan for tomorrowThu Mar 31 1994 02:5621
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>    >        What could we sell on the market if we had it?
>    >UNIX system administrators
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>    I view a customers's shortage of this expertise as a problem that we
>    can offer technology solutions to such as DECathena rather than bodies.

Give the customer what he wants, a body. I worked in sales for a number of 
years but not in Digital. If the customer asks for a 3 pin bakalite socket,
there is no point in trying to sell hime a satin crome socket, he will be
pissed off with you trying to push this on him and won't even buy the bakalite
one from you. I don't say that you cannot talk about DECathena but one has to
be careful. Customers know better what they want than we do and even if they
don't they are the ones who pay us indirectly.

Ren�
2972.4Catch-22GUCCI::HERBNew Personal Name coming soon!Thu Mar 31 1994 08:117
    In the Government sector, a body is a commodity that is acquired at the
    lowest possible cost. Digital doesn't compete very well on these terms
    so, if we take this approach, we get no business.
    
    DECathena is a solution that includes boxes, software, and bodies that
    can solve a particular problem. The bodies, in spite of the higher
    cost, have an added value.
2972.5Great!ASABET::ANKERAnker Berg-SonneThu Mar 31 1994 21:294
        Great, positive  discussion.  Its the small ideas that make a big
        difference.
        
        Anker
2972.6AXEL::FOLEYRebel without a ClueFri Apr 01 1994 17:328
RE: .2

	Rumour has it that DECpc's will be showing up in "computer
	superstores" and other retail outlets over the next year.
	Right now, I think we are building them as fast as we can 
	sell them. I might be wrong.

							mike
2972.7DECpcs offered through InsightHYDRA::BECKPaul BeckFri Apr 01 1994 17:453
    I just received a mail-order catalog from Insight (the parent company of
    Hard Drives International) that included DECpcs along side PCs from
    Compaq and AST.
2972.8LEDS::TRIPPMon Apr 04 1994 15:3720
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we sign a contract several years
    ago with one of the "computer super stores"? 
    Computer...somethingorother?? 
    
    I was working in MR04, and remember several days of long blacks limos,
    and seeing one very relieved sales rep, basically announcing to anyone
    who would listen that "they signed".  Of course that doesn't mean that
    who ever it was, is still in business does it?
    
    But.... doesn't calling DECdirect give you the same effect?  It's sort
    of like calling Sears, Penny's etc giving a catalog number, credit card
    or po# and placing an order, with expected ship dates given at time of
    order?  (works well in theory doesn't it?)
    
    My husband called a couple weeks ago, just for some basic info on an
    upgrade to our own PC, and the man on the other end just about tried to
    bend his arm for any kind of an order at all.  He was only calling to
    request a specific DECdirect catalog!  
    
    Lyn
2972.9You can make money selling Cadillacs or YugosNUTS2U::LITTLETodd Little - Reuse Technology GroupTue Apr 05 1994 04:1022
    re: .4
    
>    In the Government sector, a body is a commodity that is acquired at the
>    lowest possible cost. Digital doesn't compete very well on these terms
>    so, if we take this approach, we get no business.
    
    Price is always an issue in any sector.  That still doesn't preclude us
    from making a buck in that area.  For the 9 years or so I was in SWS,
    we had gross margins of 50% at the district level, much of that being
    exactly the kind of service suggested in the base note.  For a few
    years before coming to Digital I worked for a primarily government
    contractor, and our rates were anything but low.  So even there it is
    possible to compete.
    
    What's needed are competent trained delivery people and a sales force
    that realizes the value of selling services.  Measuring the sales force
    primarily on hardware certs and focusing on certs per minute really
    hurt the consulting side of the business.  Perhaps all the changes
    occuring in Digital Consulting, or whatever SWS is called this week,
    will help swing things back the other way.
    
    -tl