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2925.1 | | ODIXIE::RHARRIS | FISHAHOLICMAXIMUSONOVATORMEISTER | Tue Mar 01 1994 16:19 | 4 |
| The best place to go on a sinking ship is the life raft.
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2925.2 | | NITTY::DIERCKS | Not every celebration is a party! | Tue Mar 01 1994 16:53 | 5 |
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Morale? What's morale?
GJD
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2925.3 | "Guillotine, anyone?" | BWICHD::SILLIKER | Crocodile sandwich-make it snappy | Tue Mar 01 1994 16:55 | 26 |
| My lack of energy (most of which is used up trying to survive
disfunctional Digital management) won't permit me to go down any
coherent (or incoherent, I'm not fussy) discussions as to morale
(actually, lack of positive) in this company in general, but, I'll
point out the obvious, just in case anyone who cares, and can do
anything about it actually reads this conference, that lack of positive
morale among the employees of ANY company translates to the bottom
line, and eventually, to a messy and untimely demise. Demoralized
employees will do the bare minimum required to perform their jobs, and
no more, and eventually expend their energies on getting out.
Ruling by fiat, intimidation, etc., if one is a student of history,
never work, very well, for very long. In our century, look at the
short period of influence the Soviet Communists enjoyed, slightly over
1/2 century... and we were here to witness it's explosive demise.
Won't belabour the point, 'nuff said.
This is where the kind, unshaven, with his arms bound behind his back,
is led into the courtyard, and beheaded, thinking all the while: "Oh,
dear" and "Maybe the people have a point".
Let them eat cake!
/m
(No, NOT Marie Antoinette!)
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2925.4 | | ICS::BEAN | Attila the Hun was a LIBERAL! | Tue Mar 01 1994 17:10 | 16 |
| PKO-3 is like a mausoleum.
Rumors have it that MCS training is cancelling many, many courses, and
that DLS training is flat-out LEAVING... to take up residency at the
Heartbreak Hotel.
Several other facilities in DLS have done this (most recently ALF moved
out to the Windham Hotel in Atlanta...a refurbished Holiday Inn) and
the hotels do this to pick up the extra traffic our customers bring in.
I imagine there is some penalty Digital must pay the hotels if we don't
provide enuf in the way of increased occupancy.
Is what is good for DLS also good for Digital?
t
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2925.5 | I remember PKO2 too! | CSOADM::ROTH | | Tue Mar 01 1994 17:49 | 6 |
| ... brings back fond memories... I was in training in PKO2 the last week
it was held there (before moving to BUO).
Sigh.
Lee (veteran of Rosie's)
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2925.6 | Platitudes on Attitudes from the Lower Latitudes | DPDMAI::EYSTER | Dogbert's Clues for the Clueless | Tue Mar 01 1994 18:00 | 38 |
| I just received the following via E-mail. It was sent by someone in
Field Service, forwarded to a ton of folk by someone in Human Resorces,
then passed down from my manager. This should cure everyone's problem:
A POSITIVE ATTITUDE CREATES POSITIVE RESULTS
ATTITUDE
The longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on
life. Attitude, to me, is more important than facts.
It is more important than the past, than education, than money,
than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what
other people think or say or do. It is more important than
appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a
company...a church...a home.
The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the
attitude we will embrance for that day. We cannot change our past...
we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We
cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the
one string that we have, and that is our attitude...
I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react
to it. And so it is with you...we are in charge of our Attitudes.
-Charles Swindoll-
ATTITUDES ARE CONTAGIOUS...IS YOURS WORTH CATCHING?
A NEW ATTITUDE INVARIABLY CREATES A NEW RESULT.
ATTITUDE...A LITTLE THING THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
ATTITUDE IS EVERYTHING
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2925.7 | Yep! Everything is OK! | CSC32::MORTON | Aliens, the snack food of CHAMPIONS! | Tue Mar 01 1994 18:20 | 9 |
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Re .6:
That sounds great! I just hope I remember it when I get booted
out, and loose everything I worked for, and when I have no food to
feed my kids. Attitude, it sounds great.
Jim Morton
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2925.8 | | FUNYET::ANDERSON | Finally, a GREAT winter! | Tue Mar 01 1994 18:32 | 2 |
| Don't worry. Be happy. Read worn-out platitudes. Embrace Hallmark card
philosophies.
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2925.9 | Morale is.. | PEAKS::LILAK | Who IS John Galt ? | Tue Mar 01 1994 18:57 | 19 |
| Morale is now, apparently:
The uncanny ability to be blissfully ignorant,
unaware and untroubled by injustice, by corporate entropy,
by incompetence, and a general
lack of trustworthiness on the part of one's coworkers.
Others who are less kind might refer to it as _denying reality_.
I'm sure it is only our 'perception' that stock prices are low
and customers aren't buying our products.
Yeah, that's it.
R
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2925.10 | Chuck's words were for individuals | NEWVAX::PAVLICEK | Zot, the Ethical Hacker | Tue Mar 01 1994 21:13 | 16 |
| re: .6 & following
Note that Chuck Swindoll's words are aimed at the individual. They are
meant to inspire one to do one's best.
However, the attempt to bludgeon the masses with the message is one of
the problems Digital has today. Yes, you can control your attitudes. Yes,
it affects your results. But when people start to say "this company
has problems because of YOUR attitude -- YOU'RE at fault!", it is
attempting to say that the company has no problems -- there is no
reason for your discontent except for your attitude.
Swindoll's words are for those who wish to take them to heart, not for
one group of people to beat another group into submission.
-- Russ
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2925.11 | | CSC32::MORTON | Aliens, the snack food of CHAMPIONS! | Tue Mar 01 1994 22:38 | 5 |
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Russ, RIGHT ON!
Jim Morton
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2925.12 | Morale getting better | GLDOA::KATZ | Follow your conscience | Wed Mar 02 1994 08:51 | 22 |
| I think we hit rock bottom in Q1. Since that time however I have felt
that things are improving. I believe that after a looooong struggle
our customers are starting to see our new products in a positive
light. Our Alpha boxes are great! We are competitive for the first
time since the introduction of the DS5000 3 years ago. Our network
products are being revamped and our competitive too. I knew things
were really changing for the better in this company when I attended
the Network Training Academy 3 weeks ago. There, the Polycenter
Netview product was introduced. For the first time I saw a good
product developed on a UNIX platform first, not VMS! What a
refreshing change.
I think we all would have liked to seen the company change
faster but it took 30 years to get where we were when Bob
Palmer assumed control. We were too fat and lazy and not listening
to the customer before Bob. I don't believe thats the case anymore
although there will always be room for improvement.
I think that having 2 profitable quarters back to back would
make most of us happier then we have been in years.
-Jim-
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2925.13 | | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Wed Mar 02 1994 09:10 | 6 |
| >For the first time I saw a good
>product developed on a UNIX platform first, not VMS! What a
>refreshing change.
This is exactly what customers said to me a couple of years ago
when I was doing non-disclosure presentations on DECdas.
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2925.14 | Alpha win!!! | GLDOA::KATZ | Follow your conscience | Wed Mar 02 1994 09:13 | 69 |
| Taken from the VOGON News Service
Nynex, Ameritech - Said to choose Digital to supply video-server systems
{The Wall Street Journal, 25-Feb-94, p. B8}
[This is the entire article - TT]
Unfazed by the collapse of the Bell Atlantic Corp.-Tele-Communications Inc.
acquisition agreement, other Bell companies are pushing ahead with plans to
build parts of the information superhighway on their own.
Industry insiders said yesterday that two more regional telephone companies,
Nynex Corp. and Ameritech Corp., have picked a supplier for video-server
equipment - the systems that will digitize, store and distribute movies and
other interactive fare over telephone lines. The surprise winner is dark
horse Digital Equipment Corp., which had one only one other video-server
contract, with U S West Inc.
Nynex is expected to announce new plans soon for a test of video-on-demand
services in New York, Portland, Maine, and eastern Massachusetts, pending
regulatory approvals. Digital's role will be to provide the computer and
data-storage systems for the trials.
Digital also has won a video-server contract with Ameritech, the
Chicago-based Baby Bell, people close to the discussions say. Digital has
apparently displaced IBM, which was expected to win the order.
Digital and U S West, the Colorado-based Bell company, are proceeding with a
video-on-demand trial beginning this spring in Omaha, Neb. In California,
Pacific Telesis Corp. has teamed up with Hewlett-Packard Co. for video
servers. The company said it plans for a high-capacity interactive network
are unaffected by the Bell Atlantic-TCI breakup. Nynex and Ameritech echoed
that settlement.
Potential $5.1 billion market
The seven Bells are among the largest potential buyers of video servers, as
each upgrades its network to handle interactive video programming. Hardware
and software companies are scrambling for a piece of this emerging market,
though estimates of its size vary widely: Dataquest Inc., a market researcher,
says it could grow to as much as $5.1 billion in three years.
Those in the fray include IBM, AT&T, Hewlett-Packard, Oracle, and Silicon
Graphics.
A Digital spokesman wouldn't comment on pending contracts. Nynex confirmed
that Digital has won server contracts but wouldn't detail the New York,
Massachusetts and Maine video-service rollouts. An Ameritech spokesman would
say only that "we're in the final stages of negotiation. We expect to make an
announcement in the near future."
The Ameritech spokesman added, however, that a trial of video-server
technology running on an IBM mainframe, which began in late 1992 and was
widely reported, "has concluded." He wouldn't discuss the test's results,
calling it "a learning experience." In Armonk, N.Y., an IBM spokesman
declined to comment.
A boost for Digital's Alpha
The new business is a boost for Digital and its new product line built
around the high-speed Alpha computer chip, which Digital says is uniquely
suited to the rapid compression and transmission of large amounts of data
required in video servers. But Barry F. Willman, an analyst at Goldman Sachs
VNS COMPUTER NEWS
& Co., said that the likely contracts "will have little near-term impact on
the company's financial picture. It's an important benefit for the long term,
but restoring profitability is more important right now."
Digital, struggling with a wrenching transition to the new Alpha product
lines, reported a $72 million loss, or 53 cents a share, on revenue of $3.25
billion in the fiscal second quarter ended Jan. 1.
Joe deMauro, a Nynex product developer, said the company picked Digital for
its initial trials on the strength of its scalable design and the "very
attractive" way it handles storage of video data.
"You can start small and grow as large as you need, as your requirements
grow," he says. The system also has a tiered storage architecture that
allows the most popular movies to be held in instantly accessible memory,
less-popular movies to be stored on hard-disk arrays and a larger library of
films in a tape library.
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2925.15 | | RANGER::BACKSTROM | bwk,pjp;SwTools;pg2;lines23-24 | Wed Mar 02 1994 09:25 | 6 |
| > This is exactly what customers said to me a couple of years ago
> when I was doing non-disclosure presentations on DECdas.
What, you're not going to bring up what happened to DECdas, Brian?!? ;-) :-)
...petri
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2925.16 | | PASTIS::MONAHAN | humanity is a trojan horse | Wed Mar 02 1994 10:12 | 2 |
| Couldn't resist it, because it *is* exactly what some of them said to
me. ;-)
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2925.17 | | CSC32::PITT | | Wed Mar 02 1994 10:42 | 18 |
|
re .1
you were at TRAINING? (that in itself is something to get excited
about!!)
re .6
I've tried that great attitude stuff on customers when they asked me
why we have no training on the products we support. I Like to tell em
that we don't NEED no stinking training, cause our good attitudes
should be plenty....and maybe if THEIR attitude was a little better,
they wouldn't get so snippy about the BIG$$$ they're paying us to provide
'shot in the dark' support to them...
Morale problems? No morale problems here.....
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2925.18 | | CSOADM::ROTH | | Wed Mar 02 1994 10:58 | 21 |
|
Re: .12
The tone of your reply is that morale is shaped by product
success/failure. Maybe in some parts of the company that is true, but
where I am at it is shaped by the following:
1) The perpetual looming spectre of layoffs
2) Seemingly mindless business decisions and the
'reorg du jour' style of operation
3) Treatment of employees that differs markedly from
stated policy as well as commonly accepted standards of common
sense and decency
4) Lack of clear goals, direction and focus
There are a few others, I will post/elaborate as I find time.
Lee
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2925.19 | | CTHP12::M_MORIN | A dead man with the most toys is still a dead man. | Wed Mar 02 1994 12:19 | 14 |
| Maybe we need to ask ourselves this:
1. Will our sales/profits improve when our attitudes improve.
or
2. Will our attitudes change when sales/profits improve.
I say the former. The more attitudes can change the sonner, the better we'll
all be as a result. If all we do is say but, but, but then we become part of
the problem and not part of the solution.
/Mario
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2925.21 | Alpha in new application. | LABC::RU | | Wed Mar 02 1994 12:27 | 6 |
2925.22 | | XLIB::SCHAFER | Mark Schafer, Development Assistance | Wed Mar 02 1994 12:31 | 4 |
| I heard (second-hand) that we were connected with a decision on HDTV,
but I do not have any details either.
Mark
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2925.20 | | ODIXIE::RHARRIS | FISHAHOLICMAXIMUSONOVATORMEISTER | Wed Mar 02 1994 12:39 | 37 |
| sales and profits. Are you sure those are supposed to go together?
I think Lee hit the nail on the head on note .18. I guess it depends
on where you work. Last year, I was in department that was dynamic,
moving, shaking, pulling down the big numbers. it was electric.
Everyone else was complaining about morale. We did not see that as an
issue with our group.
Today. I think it's a different story. The corporate view at 30,000
ft is great. However, by the time it trickles down to us, it sucks.
Our area is still in charge of the big numbers. The problem is that
there are not that many opportunities available to us now, and we see
our existing business slowly slipping away from us. I can't speak for
anyone else in my group except for myself, BUT I don't see any
improvement. I close new business, and it compensates for SOME of the
lost business.
Solution to poor morale from my point of view: Get these damn layoffs
complete. EVeryday someone gets tapped, or has to get a box. That is
no kind of environment to work in. You do not return to profitablity
thru increased headcount reduction on a constant ongoing basis. Trim
the fat, and let's get back to it. A clear vision is necessary. With
no true, clear goals, you don't go anywhere. This company has a
problem with sticking to a goal for the time it takes to get there.
Honest to god, I heard that we are reorganizing back to the district
level.
Digital is now famous for being the company that is experienced in
reorganizing. That's all we do! I like working for this company,
and hope to retire from Digital, however I just don't see that
happening until we get our act straight. I am afraid of being laid off
or our company being bought out. But who wants us? I think if someone
wanted us, we would have been bought out by now.
In summary, morale is low because we have become a product of our
enviornment. And the environment sucks.
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2925.23 | See #2925.14 | ABACUS::NESTOR | | Wed Mar 02 1994 12:43 | 4 |
| See 2925.14
Barry
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2925.24 | | ANGLIN::SULLIVAN | Take this job and LOVE it | Wed Mar 02 1994 14:24 | 12 |
|
The beatings will continue until,
MORALE INPROVES
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2925.25 | | CSC32::MORTON | Aliens, the snack food of CHAMPIONS! | Wed Mar 02 1994 17:30 | 18 |
|
Woke up this morning to the News on the radio. It said that Digital
Equipment Corporation in Colorado Springs will be hiring about 800
employees shortly for the Disk Drive Plant. We just TFSO'd people this
week. I've seen friends who were real contributors loose their jobs,
and yet we are going to hire. How about retrain? So much for getting
the corporations head count down...
Just yesterday, my manager addressed our group. He said our
productivity had been above what was expected, so they just raised the
productivity percentage from 55% to 60%. Now considering Vacations,
holidays, sicktime, and no training, the max productivity we can have
is 80%, we have 20% left to paperwork, managerial work, TRAINING
(whatever that is), and coffee breaks. If we don't meet those goals,
it is TFSO. Does wonders for my morale and attitude, along with my
peers.
Jim Morton
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2925.26 | Break it Up! | MRKTNG::EDSON | WISDM is a precious thing | Wed Mar 02 1994 19:15 | 12 |
| Re: .20
The government would not allow us to be bought. Management should
realize that the company needs to be broken up and made into 'real'
business operations. I could see PC's, Storage, Consulting and others
made into full, independant businesses with only limited strings to
the parent corporation. Many other corporations in our business
realized this and did this. Why are we too proud to think that the
corporation needs to be the same as it always has been?
DME
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2925.27 | Ramblings from a CSC noter | CSC32::JAGGER | | Wed Mar 02 1994 20:43 | 38 |
| I have been with Digital for 10 years. I have seen morale go up and down.
It takes real courage to have a good attitude about yourself and do what you
can do. However, you do burn out, because you cannot control the results, you
have to internalize what you do. Since the company is in trouble, it forgets
the pats on the back, the meetings to give employees the truth about layoffs,
about the future.
I have seen people TFSOed that were major contributors. I knew some of
them personally or from notes conferences. Some were engineers, others
managers and personal friends. Several of the people were in the DECforms
group. I knew the circumstances, it was demoralizing, because, I looked up to
these people as models, as representatives of what good employees do to earn
respect. Yes, the word, RESPECT, from their fellow employees. When we let go
of people I respect and model I start looking for other models. Lately all
my models have left. Here at the CSC in the VAX/VIA group we have lost 10 or
12 people to outside companies. At least 4 of these left because they could
not make a difference, they were men and women of vision and they had dreams.
When the dream dies, the company dies. Its not layoffs or poor company standing
for me that has caused my drop in moral, its much deeper, its about dyning.
Yes, we are dying. We need to become reborn as a company. I hope to see it
happen, but then again, I may not be here when it does.
If you walk down the halls of another company here in Colorado Springs, you
can feel the enthusiasm, ideas are new, people are talking ideas,
The people have dreams and vision, they wake up in the morning and see the
sunshine.
It is nice to hear about Alpha doing well, its nice to see that we are a
leader in thin film development.
Yes, attitude does start with the individual, but I suspect enthusiastic
people crave the company of other enthusiastic people, and when the
enthusiastic people start leaving the company most of them will follow, except
those loyal diehards who have faith in their company. (And loyalty is low
these days to)
Tom
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2925.28 | | DPDMAI::SODERSTROM | Bring on the Competition! | Thu Mar 03 1994 09:50 | 4 |
| .26
Right on! I've said this for a long time!
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2925.29 | It gets better if you have a strong stomach. | PEAKS::LILAK | Who IS John Galt ? | Thu Mar 03 1994 15:45 | 22 |
|
Re: .25
Last week, before the press release to the major paper in Colo.
Springs, or the politically correct spin 'news story' that aired
on the local NBC affiliate yesterday, there was an article/interview
in the local business journal, a weekly business-only paper,
wherein DIGITAL public relations EXPLICITLY stated that former TFSO's
and serpers 'need not apply' during the staffing ramp up here in Colo
Springs. In fact, they devoted almost 1/3 of the article to emphasising
this point. This was of course different than the spin they put out
for public consumption yesterday on TV & the local paper.
I normally don't think anything should be 'guaranteed' but the tone of
last week's article offended even the laissez-faire libertarian likes
of me.
The 'turnaround' if you want to call it that in Storage at Colo. Springs
happened DESPITE the management, not because of it.
R
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2925.30 | How's this for morale boosting? | PIKOFF::SMITH | All that is gold does not glitter | Thu Mar 03 1994 20:52 | 45 |
| My morale has certainly taken a beating.
Since joining Digital two years ago at age 25, I have done
evrything in my power to make a positive difference.
Customers I have worked with have given me a great deal of
appreciation, as have co-workers who see what I can do.
I am a technical sales resource, originally hired into
Sales Support. My review took place during the "let's move
sales support to consulting" fiasco.
My reward for the monumental effort it took to keep customers
buying in spite of the troubles at Digital?
I got knocked down from a 2 to a 3 for the first time in my career.
My raise, which I had to wait 18 months for, didn't even register
as noise in my paycheck. Reason, not building my "delivery"
skills.
Freezing the pay of over-achieving, under-paid young people is a sure
way to increase the company's woes. When I voiced how inappropriate
I felt this was, the message I got back was "Digital had a lot of
great years, now we all have to pay for them...."
I wasn't here for any of the "good times" at Digital, and I don't
know how I can justify to myself staying with a company that will
effectively freeze my earning power for three crucial years,
ages 25-28 or 29.
Someone had the nerve to tell me I should threaten to leave if
I wanted more money. Good work should speak for itself.
If I end up in a manager's office to say "I'm leaving", it will
be because I'M LEAVING!
It will probably be when we scrap this next "thoroughly designed"
sales organization for yet another shuffling of the deck.
In the meantime, I will be busting my a** for those of you who work
hard and who care.
Thanks for listening.
Dan
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2925.31 | Who misplaced Dan's walker? | DPDMAI::EYSTER | Dogbert's Clues for the Clueless | Fri Mar 04 1994 10:07 | 12 |
| Dan, Dan, Dan. It's your advanced years that have gotten you in
trouble. Digital is currently hiring college grads to get "new blood",
and replace aged dinosaurs like yourself. I mean, at 27 it's difficult
for me to believe you'll EVER be a '2' again. Come to grips with it,
man! Would you buy a 5 year old PC? I think not!
A lot of this didn't make sense to me either, Dan, I must admit. Then
I started drinking heavily and REALLY LISTENING to Howard Stern and
Rush Limbaugh and it all came together. I sell flowers at the airport
now, just to kinda relax and put it all in perspective. Try it sometime.
:^] Brent
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2925.32 | Not a bad career move!!! | PIKOFF::SMITH | All that is gold does not glitter | Fri Mar 04 1994 14:51 | 18 |
| I don't spend much time thinking about it, that would certainly drive
me to drink.
I could see if I was making the big bucks, they would consider freezing
my salary.
At least at IBM, I had a chance to get up to an additional 7%
of salary every year through customer solution bonuses. These
were not guaranteed pay raises, they were only awarded if you
accomplished the desired results in a short period of time.
Digital has a lot to learn about pay for performance.
My co-workers here in Manhattan say they'll start worrying about
me when I am living in a box downstairs in Penn Station.
Talk about a tough crowd! :^)
Dan
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2925.33 | compare apples to apples | POLAR::MOKHTAR | | Fri Mar 04 1994 15:26 | 14 |
| Re .7:
> That sounds great! I just hope I remember it when I get booted
> out, and loose everything I worked for, and when I have no food to
> feed my kids. Attitude, it sounds great.
Under the same set of conditions attitude makes a positive difference.
If one loses his job he is better off keeping a positive attitude than
a bad one for if he keeps bitching about it he will make it hell for his
family, affect his health and irritate potential employers. So yes attitude
does help.
Moreover a person with bad attitude may not need to lose his job to make his
life miserable.
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2925.34 | | HAAG::HAAG | Rode hard. Put up wet. | Mon Mar 07 1994 10:18 | 5 |
| morale?
last wend. saw an end to a string that has had a very negative effect
on my morale. you see, last wend. was the first working day since
2/14/94 that someone i personally know DIDN'T get laid off by DEC.
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2925.35 | | RCOCER::MICKOL | I work for Xerox. | Mon Mar 07 1994 23:22 | 4 |
| Well, if you all conveyed your feelings in the Employee Survey done a few
weeks ago, I'm sure the SLT will realize the morale problem and do something
about it. Right?
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2925.36 | We need to recharge, BAD !!! | STAR::PARKE | True Engineers Combat Obfuscation | Wed Mar 09 1994 11:55 | 13 |
| An indicator perhaps, or where have all the Digits gone ?
I was in moderatly late last night (I haven't been doing many nights and
weekends for awhile either). I work in Spitbrook building three.
When I left at about 2AM (not really late a few years ago) there were
two cars in parking lot H, mine and a persons who was just arriving.
To me this is sad. I have never left at around that hour and seen less
than 4 or 5 cars in each of the partial lots (E-I). It lookes like
4AM, before people started arriving for the new day.
Bill
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2925.37 | | WIDGET::KLEIN | | Wed Mar 09 1994 12:56 | 7 |
| Bill,
In these modern times of telecommuting, many of us are logged in from home
at 2am rather than sitting in our offices like we used to have to do in the
old days.
-steve-
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2925.38 | "Life Balance"? | DELNI::HICKOX | N1KTX | Wed Mar 09 1994 13:50 | 6 |
|
It could also be that people are taking those "Life Balance"
seminars and being with their family or friends more often. (you
know, "life is too short to..."
Mark
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2925.39 | Maybe all the martyrs got laid off? | STAR::DIPIRRO | | Thu Mar 10 1994 13:20 | 14 |
| What's sad is that people find it sad that the parking lot is empty
at 2 am...Why ON EARTH would people be working around the clock these
days? Oh yeah, to save the company. Queuing up a batch job to send mail
to your boss and a few other managers at 2 am will be just as
effective.
What's sad is seeing how empty the parking lot is during *normal*
business hours...or to see the same people arrive at 9 am, leave around
4:30 after a hard day of kissing butts and getting credit for other
peoples' work. That's what's sad. If a few people want to work 20 hours
a day, that's their business, but they certainly shouldn't expect the
people with lives to be doing the same thing.
Note, I realize that most people have had to put in the long hours
on rare occasions to meet some deadline. Gasp. I've even done it
myself, but that's my little secret.
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2925.40 | But I don't consider myself a martyr | STAR::PARKE | True Engineers Combat Obfuscation | Thu Mar 10 1994 15:47 | 29 |
| Re .39, "Maybe all the martyrs got laid off"
No, that's not what I was observing. I was in late to fix problems
that customers see (CLDs), and I can usually schedule well enough to
not come in late. In this case I needed some time, without
interruptions, with multiple windows (not dialinable) and decided this
was the best way to solve the problem.
I also was not back in by 8:15 }8-)} (I dont consider myself a
martyr).
What I was bemoning was the lack of the spark, the "midnight" engineering
that often lead to some major breakthroughs, even in the product you
and I work on. People feeling it was worth the effort to come in and
work out an idea (or even dial in, which people do still do, but I'll
be in lesser numbers) just because.
I believe my time with my family is more important that my time at
work, especially while I still have children home to commune with.
That doesn't mean that on occasion I don't want some quiet time to
break a bug or work an Idea that noone wants to budget for, just cause.
We're missing the "just cause", that is what I was bemoning.
Bill
(Yes, I don't like the lack of cars during the day either, but that's
a problem with staff cutting, not staff spirit).
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2925.41 | | GRANPA::TDAVIS | | Thu Mar 10 1994 15:58 | 7 |
| Maybe the spirit of two-three years ago is not there, this is a
different place now. It's hard to kkep morale going when we have
loss money 10 out the last 11 quarters, and the end of layoffs
is no where in sight. What we need around here is REVENUE, and then
re-building morale, company spirit etc....
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2925.42 | Catch-22 | MRKTNG::EDSON | WISDM is a precious thing | Thu Mar 10 1994 17:52 | 8 |
| Re. .41
< What we need around here is REVENUE, and then re-building morale,
company spirit etc....>
Seems that's a catch-22. It's tough to create revenue with morale
down and less people. No revenue? OK, even less people and lower
morale.
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2925.43 | Right On | JOFISH::FRECHETTE | | Fri Mar 11 1994 08:29 | 14 |
|
.39
>What's sad is seeing how empty the parking lot is during *normal*
>business hours...or to see the same people arrive at 9 am, leave around
>4:30 after a hard day of kissing butts and getting credit for other
>peoples' work. That's what's sad.
Could not have said it any better. Maybe if we get rid of the butt
%$#$# morale will get better
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2925.45 | | GRANMA::MWANNEMACHER | neck, red as Alabama clay | Fri Mar 11 1994 10:31 | 12 |
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Bottom line (as I see it) is that people aren't going to give thier all
to a place where they do not feel appreciated. I believe that most
people want to do a good job and what's right, but now many of us are
in a cover ourselves mode. Shutting down some of the enthusiasm and
all as a self preservation device. Maybe an unrequited love and
dedication scenario. Many people feel that the attitude of the
corporation today is, "the beatings will continue to morale improves".
Mike
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2925.46 | parallel paths? | CSC32::K_BOUCHARD | | Fri Mar 11 1994 13:37 | 4 |
| Wonder how morale is at IBM these days? We're both doing layoffs,are we
both experiencing the same feelings among employees?
Ken
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2925.47 | | SPECXN::WITHERS | Bob Withers | Fri Mar 11 1994 16:56 | 6 |
| Tony,
Have you thought about sending your message to John Rando, the head of
MCS?
BobW
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2925.48 | People are Blue at IBM Too | MRKTNG::EDSON | WISDM is a precious thing | Fri Mar 11 1994 17:08 | 13 |
| RE: .46
My brother-in-law works for IBM and has for over 20 years.
His wife is very ill, he still has his youngest in Senior year at
High School and he is told that he can either find
a job on his own or take a position in Tokyo with a 2 year contract.
His only choice was to take the overseas offer. 9 months after
being there, he's told that the contract is being cancelled and
there is not a position available for him when he comes back.
52 years old, wife with only a few years to live, financial
responsibilities........Life is not fun for him at this time.
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2925.49 | The company does not reward the behavior they say they want | STAOFF::SMITH | All that is gold does not glitter | Fri Mar 11 1994 17:54 | 19 |
| They keep saying "the customer is the focus of everything we do",
and "stop paying attention to Digital internal".
All I care about is succeeding with the customer's, and the guys
who's jobs I end up doing for them are spending their time
bull-sh**ing their managers about how great they are.
I got the message loud and clear that I might as well walk on
water in front of customers, I still won't get paid and recognized for
doing it.
How come I get no raise after two years due to lack of funds, and I
spend close to 100% of my time making customers happier,
yet we find big bucks to hire VP's who will never see a fraction
of the customer's I do.
So much for rewarding customer focus.
Dan
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2925.50 | My Morale Drain.... | ODIXIE::PFLANZ | | Sun Mar 13 1994 12:42 | 21 |
| Morale is indeed low. But the biggest drain on my morale is not the
feeling that the Company no longer cares or is less employee focused;
but rather the drain of seeing a choice few purposefully take advantage
of the company for their own benefit.
I do not mind people not giving more than 100% and I don't expect the
company to go under by taking over my social responsibilities. I do
mind people working every angle to get every thing possible from
Digital, and not giving anything back in return. I see this in abuse
of sick time, disability, vacation reporting, travel plans, and amyriad
of other activities.
Our jobs were meant to be a 50-50 endeavor. I give to the company and
the company reciprocates to me. There are far too many of us that want
this to be a 60-40 relationship, they are out to get more than they put
in. Watching them get away with it is what drains my morale. Never in
my 16 years have I ever felt that Digital was demanding more out of me
than I was willing to give.
Perhaps our morale problem lies within ourselves, and what we
toleraste.
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2925.51 | Noticed the same thing | RUTILE::AUNGIER | Live for today, plan for tomorrow | Sun Mar 13 1994 16:16 | 27 |
| >================================================================================
>Note 2925.36 Morale 36 of 49
>STAR::PARKE "True Engineers Combat Obfuscation" 13 lines 9-MAR-1994 11:55
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -< We need to recharge, BAD !!! >-
>
> An indicator perhaps, or where have all the Digits gone ?
>
>
> I was in moderatly late last night (I haven't been doing many nights and
> weekends for awhile either). I work in Spitbrook building three.
> When I left at about 2AM (not really late a few years ago) there were
> two cars in parking lot H, mine and a persons who was just arriving.
>
> To me this is sad. I have never left at around that hour and seen less
> than 4 or 5 cars in each of the partial lots (E-I). It lookes like
> 4AM, before people started arriving for the new day.
>
> Bill
>
Bill,
I have noticed the same thing in our site, after 18.00 there are a lot fewer
car than a few years ago.
Ren�
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2925.52 | It's a laugh | RUTILE::AUNGIER | Live for today, plan for tomorrow | Sun Mar 13 1994 16:22 | 34 |
| >================================================================================
>Note 2925.49 Morale 49 of 49
>STAOFF::SMITH "All that is gold does not glitter" 19 lines 11-MAR-1994 17:54
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -< The company does not reward the behavior they say they want >-
>
> They keep saying "the customer is the focus of everything we do",
> and "stop paying attention to Digital internal".
>
> All I care about is succeeding with the customer's, and the guys
> who's jobs I end up doing for them are spending their time
> bull-sh**ing their managers about how great they are.
>
> I got the message loud and clear that I might as well walk on
> water in front of customers, I still won't get paid and recognized for
> doing it.
>
> How come I get no raise after two years due to lack of funds, and I
> spend close to 100% of my time making customers happier,
> yet we find big bucks to hire VP's who will never see a fraction
> of the customer's I do.
>
> So much for rewarding customer focus.
>
> Dan
Dan,
I could not agree more, I worked on a major project some months ago spending
7 months in a foreign country, only getting home every 7 weeks. Everybody was
happy with my performance and the project was a great success, for that I got
0%. It definitely has not made me too keen to break my butt again.
Ren�
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2925.53 | What's missing for you? Does this help? | DEMON::PILGRM::BAHN | Possibility of IDIC | Mon Mar 14 1994 23:32 | 25 |
|
>>> Dan,
>>>
>>> I could not agree more, I worked on a major project some months
>>> ago spending 7 months in a foreign country, only getting home
>>> every 7 weeks. Everybody was happy with my performance and the
>>> project was a great success, for that I got 0%. It definitely has
>>> not made me too keen to break my butt again.
>>>
>>> Ren�
Ren�,
What can some of the rest of us do to help you ... and Dan to feel
appreciated? I, for one, would like to thank both of you for your
efforts and tell you how sad I am to hear that your teams, managers,
organizations, or whatever could not or would not reward you
appropriately. I like working here (more often than not) and I'm glad
to know that some of my colleagues are giving so much of themselves to
help keep the company going. You're an inspiration to me to keep
trying in spite of the resignation and cynicism that I see around me.
I know that this note isn't much, but I hope that it helps.
Terry
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2925.54 | Help us limp through this FY with minimum BS | STAOFF::SMITH | All that is gold does not glitter | Tue Mar 15 1994 07:14 | 19 |
| >> How can we help.........
For me, after the end of this fiscal year, things should really
turn around, provided my position (which many still view as
experimental) as regional technical sales does not go away.
The key for me has been to not think about it. This company
reminds me of a dysfunctional family, where one set of rules is
stated constantly but not followed, while the real rules for
success are not public information.
Believe me, if things were all bad, I wouldn't take the time to
complain.
I feel, for my self respect, I need to point out some of
these things in a public forum. Today's US DVN is a good
opportunity. If you want a chuckle, tune in.
Dan
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