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2904.1 | Not a rumor. | BONNET::WLODEK | Network pathologist. | Thu Feb 17 1994 17:17 | 6 |
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It's AT&T , and Fallotti will be our new Bob or Ken. Call it PCF II or
PCF strikes back . Or maybe SWATCH and we will finally make Digital
wrist watches with Alpha laser logo.
Well I. Nformed.
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2904.2 | Let's Do It to Them, before They DO It to Us | ANGLIN::ROGERS | Sometimes you just gotta play hurt | Thu Feb 17 1994 18:32 | 10 |
| "Rumour Roundup" in the February 7th issue of Digital News & Review
says an MCI exec told one of our people we'd soon be working for them.
Besides, the AT&T rumour is heard about every 2.5 years. Sounds like
someone is "rounding up the ususal suspects."
Now, if we want to launch a takeover rumour, why don't WE buy out
someone? We could do that in lieu of next quarter's reorganization!
:-)
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2904.3 | | TOOK::DELBALSO | I (spade) my (dog face) | Thu Feb 17 1994 19:56 | 8 |
| re: .2
> says an MCI exec told one of our people we'd soon be working for them.
This is rich!
-Jack
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2904.4 | I can even hear Ma Bell laughing. | RICKS::PHIPPS | | Fri Feb 18 1994 09:38 | 11 |
| <<< Note 2904.3 by TOOK::DELBALSO "I (spade) my (dog face)" >>>
re: .2
> says an MCI exec told one of our people we'd soon be working for them.
This is rich!
-Jack
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2904.5 | | LATVMS::BRANAM | | Fri Feb 18 1994 11:42 | 1 |
| Only one thing concerns me...does that mean we get free long-distance?
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2904.6 | | CTHQ::DWESSELS | | Fri Feb 18 1994 11:46 | 1 |
| only to other companies in our "Friends and Family" circle
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2904.7 | Why Buy? | PENUTS::STEVENS | | Fri Feb 18 1994 12:06 | 12 |
| On a more serious note, what financial indicators, marketplace
conditions, or global economic factors, make you think we are an
attractive buyout company?
In my certainly humble opinion, we still have too many unprofitable
businesses to fix or sell. On top of this our cash cow has taken
an early retirement.
As I see it, the time is not right for a takeover. Once we become
more focused and show true signs of returning to profitability,
perhaps the number 2 computer company, ( HP ), would be interested
in us. Just a thought!
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2904.8 | Corporate Raider Logic: | ANGLIN::ROGERS | Sometimes you just gotta play hurt | Fri Feb 18 1994 16:52 | 45 |
| Corporate raiders don't always go by logic. Sometimes you're worth
more as scrap metal than you are as an ocean liner. There have been
several cases of corporate raiders buying out companies largely with
their own money.
For example, if your company has a well-endowed, conservatively run
retirement fund, new management can come it and start making changes.
They make newer, less conservative assumptions about what interest
rates will be over the years, and voila! The fund is now OVER-funded
and there is free cash.
That is supposedly more difficult to get away with today, due to new
and tighter oversight by the government. But still, it's an example of
what kind of dangers are there.
What IS the market value of our company today? (Current market share
times number of outstanding shares). Then, how much would you get by
spinning off our PC arm? Our chip foundries? Our software
applications, bit by bit? Our service and support business? Our
buildings. Someone might figure those components could be sold for
something exceeding the current market value.
In selling off those components, the corporate raider has only to
convince a buyer that the subsidiary will now make money on its own,
because:
-- its product or service was incompetently managed, or marketed
-- it now won't have to carry a big corporate overhead
-- it will be focused tightly on its main business, be closer to the
customer, be able to react quicker to market conditions
--it won't be tied to a proprietary image, and will be able to sell its
product across all platforms and vendor environments
-- it can be merged into the product line of a former competitor, where
the products now can be complementary, without the need of two sales
forces
And so on, and so on.
Logic would say that none of this would happen, but a corporate raider
has great faith in his ability to make something out of a bowl of mush.
He sometimes doesn't have to convince real buyers of these facts -- he
just has to convince Wall Street that he can convince real buyers, and
he gets the buyout funded.
Even if he is wrong, he can "greenmail" the company. Fighting off
takeovers can put a company so far in debt that it struggles for years.
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2904.9 | Try to find it these days... | VMSSPT::STOA::CURTIS | Dick "Aristotle" Curtis | Sat Feb 19 1994 09:47 | 6 |
| .-1:
� Even if he is wrong, he can "greenmail" the company. Fighting off
� takeovers can put a company so far in debt that it struggles for years.
Pr1me might be a good recent example.
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2904.10 | | TPSYS::ZAHAVI | | Mon Feb 21 1994 08:42 | 9 |
| As an ex Sperry employee I remeber that one of the attractions that brought
about the hostile takeover by Borroughs (and created UNISYS) was the fact
that Sperry had around $2billion in the bank in cash. That reduced the
final liability by quite a bit.
I think Digital has around $1.1Billion in the bank now. So what would be
the discount?
How about if we take the money and make a bid for Oracle????
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2904.11 | Corporate raider ... or doctor? | CHEFS::PARRYD | Only connect | Mon Feb 21 1994 09:04 | 19 |
| Re. .8
"Logic would say that none of this would happen."
Whose logic? Your arguments seem impeccable to me. Perhaps you are
speaking ironically. Your five arguments could well be applied to
each of our product divisions. This would eliminate the nonsenses
where, because we insist on bundling product and services in our bids,
we narrow our chances against a best-of-breed bidder such as EDS and
end up winning nothing.
In the U.K. we have an example of a conglomerate, Apricot Computers,
which split up and where the parts are greater than the sum of the
whole.
I really would be interested in knowing why you think this is not the
best way to go.
dave_P
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2904.12 | | PLAYER::BROWNL | Back on the nest | Tue Feb 22 1994 04:21 | 6 |
| Actually, I've long thought that it would make perfect sense for a
conglomerate of, say, Microsoft, Intel, AT&T and Western Digital to buy
all outstanding shares, and split off/absorb the parts of DEC they
could usefully absorb, and scrap the rest.
Laurie.
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2904.13 | I doubt it | STAR::DIPIRRO | | Tue Feb 22 1994 08:31 | 11 |
| If it made that much sense, then somebody would have done it by
now. Typically, this happens when a company has reached its low point
and show signs of recovery and growth. Then it's a more reasonable
takeover target.
The "scrap the rest" might cost big bucks. The real estate
holdings, mostly in the GMA, aren't worth diddly (look at what the Wang
towers just sold for). Laying off all the people would be expensive.
And just what parts of the company would you "absorb" which would more
than make up for this expense?
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see this as much of a threat...at
least, not yet.
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2904.14 | "western" Digital | MR3MI1::MREICH | | Wed Feb 23 1994 13:05 | 6 |
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re: .12
I guess Western Digital would get our name.
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2904.15 | Who? | SUBURB::POWELLM | Nostalgia isn't what it used to be! | Thu Feb 24 1994 03:41 | 1 |
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2904.16 | They make disk drives | SWAM2::ROGERS_DA | feeling _so_ SCSI | Thu Feb 24 1994 22:02 | 2 |
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2904.18 | Speaking of amusement parks... (Beware! Old joke follows.) | RANGER::BACKSTROM | bwk,pjp;SwTools;pg2;lines23-24 | Thu Jun 16 1994 11:49 | 9 |
| I forget how I heard it the first time, but here's my version:
Q: What's the difference between Digital and Jurassic Park?
A: One's an isolated island with dinosaurs running amok wrecking
the place, and the other's a movie.
...petri
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2904.19 | | GRANPA::DGEEHAN | | Thu Jun 16 1994 13:14 | 17 |
| re: .17
Great news!
I can see it now...
Thursday June 16, 1994
Digital Board of Directors announce sale of Digital to Disney. In a
surprise move, the BoD announced that the new CEO of Digital will be
Goofey. A deeply disapointed Mickey Mouse announced that he would sue.
Thanks,
djg...
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2904.20 | | SPEZKO::FRASER | Mobius Loop; see other side | Thu Jun 16 1994 14:53 | 4 |
| "We would also like to point out that there is no truth to the
rumour that Mickey Mouse is wearing a Bob Palmer (digital) watch!"
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2904.21 | | BSS::RONEY | Charles Roney | Thu Jun 16 1994 15:36 | 5 |
| Maybe it should be :
A: One's an isolated island with dinosaurs running amok wrecking
the place, and the other's a company.
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2904.22 | | ICS::BEAN | Attila the Hun was a LIBERAL! | Thu Jun 16 1994 18:57 | 6 |
| geee...
I thought for a moment that we'd been bought out by Tobin's
(the ones running the PKO caf?)
tony
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2904.24 | | REOSV1::ROEM | | Fri Jun 17 1994 05:56 | 7 |
| and the other version of the Jurassic Park/Digital joke....
What's the difference between Jurassic Park and Digital Management?
In Jurassic Park, the dinosaurs move.
You've gotta laff
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2904.25 | | OKFINE::KENAH | Every old sock meets an old shoe... | Fri Jun 17 1994 10:57 | 1 |
| Isn't there another joke about Digital and a Boy Scout troop?
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2904.26 | What's the difference between the Boy Scouts of America ... | ODIXIE::SEDVM2::COLE | Paradigm: A 50 cent word downsized 60% | Fri Jun 17 1994 16:07 | 5 |
| ... and Digital?
The BSA has adult leadership!
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2904.27 | this just in... | DPDMAI::EYSTER | Still chasin' neon dreams | Tue Jun 21 1994 14:26 | 19 |
| (AP) - Disney makes official its purchase of Digital Equipment today.
Michael Eisner explained to reporters in an afternoon press conference
that "The purchase of Digital Equipment is in the best interest of all
parties and represents months of difficult negotiations. The terms of
the deal include trading EuroDisney for Digital Europe, as well as
various stock options".
Eisner sees immediate profitability by converting the Mill into a water
park, charging all customers $20 for parking, and charging just one
price at the door for a week's pass for any customer. Additionally,
former Digital employees will be required to wear various Disney suits
on the job.
"This isn't a big deal to me", says Jean Le Fume from Valbonne. "I
have been used to working for clowns and would rather work as one, instead.
I see it as a promotion to management, no?". Other former employees
clustered around Jean nodded as he stated this.
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2904.28 | | AKOCOA::OUELLETTE | | Tue Jun 21 1994 14:38 | 3 |
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You need something to do??????!!!!
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2904.29 | Sam Kinnison, where are you when we need you? | DPDMAI::EYSTER | Still chasin' neon dreams | Tue Jun 21 1994 16:47 | 7 |
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> You need something to do??????!!!!
Yeah, is your sister home right now? What's her number? Whoops, here
it is on the payphone wall!
xo :^]
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2904.30 | Brrrrr, cold around here. | WRAFLC::GILLEY | Pay freeze? That's what *you* think. | Tue Jun 21 1994 16:59 | 1 |
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2904.31 | | HANNAH::KOVNER | Everything you know is wrong! | Tue Jun 21 1994 17:36 | 5 |
| Re. Disney buyout -
I guess they feel EuroDisney isn't losing enough money. :-)
(Yes, I know the whole thing's a joke.)
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2904.32 | Juvenile! | AKOCOA::OUELLETTE | | Tue Jun 21 1994 17:37 | 4 |
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No problem! That's the kind of responce I figured I get
from him. It matches every other comment from him.
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