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| 2746.1 | | POCUS::RICCIARDI | Be a graceful Parvenu... | Thu Oct 28 1993 13:40 | 3 |
| Nothing formal. A VP did mention to me that once I accepted a job, I
was exected to remain there for at least a year. Normally hiring managers
will ask you up front for at least a two year commitment.
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| 2746.2 | Do you mean we have no choice where to work? | COMET::BASCHAL | | Thu Oct 28 1993 16:18 | 15 |
| RE: .0
Do you mean that just by working in the field (and for a CBU) that
I cannot apply for another position for somewhere between one and three
years?
I could understand (sort of) not allowing people who were just hired
into a position not to change jobs for a year or two, but to
arbitrarily say that no one in the field can change jobs outside your
CBU but within Digital for that length of time sound strange indeed.
Next, they'll try to say you can't apply for a job outside of Digital,
that unless you get tapped for TFSO.
Jim
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| 2746.3 | It Makes Sense to Me! | ODIXIE::GELINEAU | | Thu Oct 28 1993 17:58 | 15 |
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I do not know of any formal notification given when presented the CBU
job offer; however, it is reasonable to think that the CBU's would like
to have longer term commits. After all, how will they build industry
expertise and focus with their sales, support, and management teams
moving around the company?
There certainly were CBU deployment issues in the beginning, i.e. one
CBU with too many folks and another under resourced; but, this has been
worked out for the most part. I expect that CBU's will want to keep
their teams together long enough to see if this structure suits the
demanding needs of the business thereby confirming that we got it right
this time.
Rgds,
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| 2746.4 | Go forth and wander the scorched earth... | DPDMAI::WISNIEWSKI | ADEPT of the Virtual Space. | Thu Oct 28 1993 23:42 | 8 |
| I specifically asked that before I signed my letter of acceptance.
The answer was no I was free to pursue any Digital opportunity
I wished...
Now about those multitudes of Digital opportunities;-)
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| 2746.5 | | RLTIME::COOK | | Fri Oct 29 1993 09:08 | 11 |
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Like John, I specifically asked about any implied commitments. I was told there
were no time commitments involved in accepting the July 1 offer. I included
a statement to the effect in my acceptance letter and it was read and accepted
by mangerment. I kept a copy of that letter.
Al Cook
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| 2746.6 | Two smart people so far. | 31318::SASLOW_ST | STEVE | Fri Oct 29 1993 12:15 | 7 |
| Re: .2 That is true in my CBU - CEM
Re .4 and .5 That is contrary to what Russ G. says but I am glad you
are smart folk. Hope that doesn't change should you try to execute it.
Even personnel says .0 is true and there is no recourse.
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| 2746.7 | Had to do something.... | RLTIME::COOK | | Fri Oct 29 1993 12:52 | 12 |
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> Re .4 and .5 That is contrary to what Russ G. says but I am glad you
> are smart folk. Hope that doesn't change should you try to execute it.
At Digital it's been a long time since assurances from management, verbal or
written, offered any protection from later decisions. Not that smart, just
the best I could come up with on short notice.
al
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| 2746.8 | | SYORPD::DEEP | Bob Deep - SYO, DTN 256-5708 | Wed Nov 03 1993 10:53 | 11 |
| Its standard operating procedure in most companies, and almost never set down
as "policy." If someone wants you bad enough, they pull enough strings,
make a strong enough business case, and press all the right buttons, and
you're there. Otherwise, you get the standard line about # of years in
your current position, blah, blah, blah... It just means the hiring manager
either had an "easier" candidate, and/or didn't have enough political clout
to hire you.
Not fair, just reality.
Bob
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| 2746.9 | Read my lips: NO TRANSFERS | 31318::SASLOW_ST | STEVE | Mon Nov 08 1993 17:01 | 3 |
| Re .8 - Much worse than that. I was told no matter who wanted me, my
CBU had the power to stop me from going and that was policy straight
from Russ G.
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| 2746.10 | | TOOK::MORRISON | Bob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570 | Mon Nov 22 1993 14:25 | 8 |
| I'm still confused. Did Russ G. reset the "clock" on everyone in Customer
Service such that they must remain in their current CBU for X number of years?
Or did he say that people have a commitment for X years from date of hire?
Also, is "remaining in your CBU" the same as remaining in your current position?
There have always been circumstances under which people could be "trapped"
in their current jobs in Digital, but this is the first I have heard of it
being applied en masse to a large group of employees (if my interpretation of
.0 is right).
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| 2746.11 | Read my lips. | 31318::SASLOW_ST | STEVE | Wed Dec 01 1993 11:32 | 8 |
| I meant what I said in the base note. That is what I was told by my
District Manager and personnel. Supposedly it applied to everyone. I
did nothing new when I was assigned to the CBU.
Right now, it seems irrelavent since as a result of that decision, I am
one hour away from my exit interview. I did have one choice left and I
took it. I love my new job!! Farewell!
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