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2720.1 | | NETRIX::thomas | The Code Warrior | Sun Oct 17 1993 11:45 | 2 |
| Maybe I just don't have enough caffeine in my system, but could flesh your
base note just a bit?
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2720.2 | Music Begins, Pick your Partners.... | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Sun Oct 17 1993 13:06 | 15 |
| The $32 billion deal brings together two already large companies
in the Telecommunications and Media industries with the specific purpose
of developing the 'information super highway' that Clinton/Gore
mentioned a while back in the run up to the US elections. It went
quite since, meanwhile companies like Bell Atlantic and TCI have
taken it very seriously.....
....the resulting merger has triggered a lot of stock market action
in the last couple of days in Communication and Media stocks.
Bob Palmer talked of the potential of Alpha AXP and the emerging
'digital media highway' during the period of the Alpha AXP launch.
-Dom
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2720.3 | only tangentially our business | CARAFE::GOLDSTEIN | Global Village Idiot | Mon Oct 18 1993 16:53 | 9 |
| We build equipment.
Bell Atlantic is a common carrier.
TCI is a cable TV company, which is reluctantly a carrier and mainly an
entertainment company.
Now, what's the question? Our CEM CBU no doubt knows all these guys
well.
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2720.4 | He who hesitates..... | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Tue Oct 19 1993 02:45 | 3 |
| If you cant see it.......it's too late!
-Dom
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2720.5 | | NOTIME::SACKS | Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085 | Tue Oct 19 1993 12:07 | 44 |
| U.S. News LIVE WIRE
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Digital enters on-demand video market (19-Oct) Date: 19-Oct-1993
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Digital enters on-demand video market
Digital announced today that it will provide an integrated
server platform to deliver video-on-demand and other interactive
services for U S WEST Communications' proposed broadband
communications trial. Pending Federal Communications Commission
approval, the U S WEST trial is scheduled to begin in Omaha, Neb. in
1994.
Digital has developed this new server platform specifically to
address the requirements of an all-digital broadband infrastructure
that supports a range of new interactive services such as movies and
other video entertainment on demand, multimedia, interactive games,
home shopping, education and information, and more. The platform
incorporates Digital's Alpha AXP processors, StorageWorks disk
storage arrays, Digital Linear Tape (DLT) library subsystems,
interactive gateway unit, server management unit, and GIGAswitch, a
high-speed networking switch linking the various elements together.
Finally, recognizing that cost per subscriber will be the key
determinant in the success of the market, Digital has designed a
software environment that maximizes the efficiency of the multimedia
data delivery.
In the U S WEST Omaha trial, Digital will work in partnership
with The 3DO Company, supplier of interactive technology that will
provide the capability for video-on-demand and other informational
programming, and with a broadband network supplier. The result will
be a flexible, end-to-end client/server solution that provides a
rich and robust environment for content and application providers.
"Digital's work with US West and 3DO to provide consumers with
video on-demand services shows our combined focus on the end-user,
and how relationships like these will result in the delivery of
high-value interactive services," said Paul Kozlowski, vice president,
Communications, Education, and Media Business Unit.
"The convergence of computers, communications and entertainment
is creating a new world of multimedia services. The potential for
this video-on-demand service, when coupled with the National
Information Infrastructure, is boundless. Digital is well-
positioned to utilize its expertise in open client/server computing,
consultation and integration projects to carry this breakthrough
development into other markets with equal promise," he added.
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2720.6 | Will being a Computer Company be enough..? | GVA05::BURKHALTER | | Tue Oct 19 1993 12:25 | 13 |
| re .5
That's good news, but do we need closer links with a large 'media'
company.
I see yesterday Scully the ex-Apple boss has anounced his joining
and becoming CEO of I believe Springer Communications a specilaist
Wireless Comms. company.
We too have some projects in this are I beleive?
-Dom
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2720.7 | Spectrum Information Technologies | VFOVAX::ZITELMAN | | Tue Oct 19 1993 15:30 | 7 |
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From today's NY Times:
Mr. Sculley said that he would become Chariman and CEO of
Spectrum Information Technologies, Inc, a comapny that controls
a series of crucial patents related to the wireless transmission
of computer data.
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2720.8 | don't make enemies (grudges last a long time) | CARAFE::GOLDSTEIN | Global Village Idiot | Tue Oct 19 1993 17:38 | 12 |
| re:.5,.6
The point that .5 is making is quite clear to me: We are selling
equipment to all comers. Heck, we'd sell stuff to BOTH Viacom AND QVC!
In order to stay alive in this business, we have to avoid entangling
alliances. It's far easier to make enemies than friends. We can be a
neutral business partner with many customers who are each other sworn
enemies.
Besides, Bell Atlantic is just sowing the seeds of their own
destruction, but that's another story.
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2720.9 | | ZPOVC::HWCHOY | Simply Irresistible! | Tue Oct 19 1993 23:47 | 6 |
| re.8
I'm in the CEM segment, and I'd appreciate to hear the "other" story about
Bell Atlantic. As I understand from the Interactive Video groupies, our
strategy is to build a standard open interface, and will build with any
other front-end people want us to, not just restricted to the 3DO device.
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2720.10 | sanity check | CSOADM::ROTH | Hey, this toothpaste tastes like GLUE!! | Wed Oct 20 1993 10:31 | 5 |
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Bell Atlantic is (or a division of) the same company that we are competing
with in many markets for equipment service, no?
Lee
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2720.11 | RE: .10 .... Yes. | FINALY::BELLAMTE | Recycled RP06 mechanic. | Wed Oct 20 1993 10:58 | 1 |
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2720.12 | Remain neutral until there is less risk | VFOVAX::ZITELMAN | | Wed Oct 20 1993 14:37 | 26 |
| re:.8,
>> The point that .5 is making is quite clear to me: We are selling
>> equipment to all comers. Heck, we'd sell stuff to BOTH Viacom AND QVC!
>> In order to stay alive in this business, we have to avoid entangling
>> alliances. It's far easier to make enemies than friends. We can be a
>> neutral business partner with many customers who are each other sworn
>> enemies.
I couldn't agree more. As an equipment, services, and SI provider to
telco, cable, and media companies with our video server, we would
hurt ourselves by making alliances now. Look at the cable and telco
industries. Each RBOC has between 13 and 17% of the US population
as a customer, and the top two cable operators, TCI and Time Warner,
control less than 25% of the total subscribers to cable. The RBOC's
are now competing with one another for cable business and will soon
compete for local telephone service. Any alliance we could enter into
with an RBOC or Cable company would antagonize the remaining
competitors, which just so happen to control the majority of the
market. They likely would not buy from Digital.
>> Besides, Bell Atlantic is just sowing the seeds of their own
>> destruction, but that's another story.
Please elaborate on this. Are you referring to BA forcing competition
for local phone business?
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2720.13 | very different kinds of monopoly | CARAFE::GOLDSTEIN | Global Village Idiot | Wed Oct 20 1993 15:22 | 49 |
| Y'know, this talk about alliances with CATV and Bell companies reminds
me of the talk a decade ago about how we just had to ally ourselves
with a PBX company to take advantage of "voice data integration". Wang
blew a wad on InteCom and Telenova; IBM blew a bil on Rolm; we were
smart and stayed out.
Now for my inflammatory statement that BA is sowing the seeds of its
own destruction: The problem is one of identity. What is Bell
Atlantic? Under the 1984 divestiture, the seven RBOCs were given the
monopoly local phone companies. Their stock was almost like a bond, as
their phone companies were guaranteed a rate of return by law, in
exchange for regulation. Judge Greene allowed each to get 10% of total
revenues from other businesses; that cap is obviously no longer in
effect. CATV, on the other hand, is slightly riskier, though only
slightly more competitive (mainly with broadcast and satellite). But
the culture is totally different. CATV is in the entertainment
business, Bells in the common carriage business. Entertainment is more
glamorous but less certain; also, the culture is utterly different.
Bell companies aren't full of Hollywood types.
Where BA is getting into trouble is in risking its sinecure for the
ephemeral gain of somebody else's business. Owning TCI means they
suddenly are concerned with which movies are popular today, which
channels are hot, etc. As a carrier, they are neutral: They can even
today with no regulatory changes carry video signals to the home, but
only as a common carrier, meaning they don't own the risk or care about
the content. A separate company, or a competitive set of companies,
can be "video information providers" with Bell as the fair and neutral
pipeline. By buying TCI they're giving up that neutrality.
CATV companies are sometimes talked about as potential players in the
"information highway", but I don't see them as major ones. Again it's
not their business; they care about movies, not bits and bytes. A CATV
company is a form of carrier, but that's the annoyance they have to put
up with in order to sell entertainment. Since CATV and telephone
companies are starting to converge on the same basic technologies, it's
attractive to think of the two setting up parallel networks and
competing. But both are monopolists at heart, and such a duopoly
wouldn't lead to serious competition, just higher prices (due to lower
network utilization and an insistence on profit). More likely you'll
see the two industries working together, jointly owning "fiber to the
home", or more likely the Bell owning it and the CATV companies paying
to use it, so they can dismiss their own pole contractors. By buying
TCI, BA is making this less likely to work in their own areas. They
are now the competitor of the CATV companies doing business in BA
phone territory, even though they can't be the CATV there. They've
made enemies out of potential partners!
They should stick to their respective knitting.
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2720.14 | Re:10 " Bigtime " | ODIXIE::CAPOZZI | | Wed Oct 20 1993 21:20 | 1 |
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2720.15 | Just IMHO | CHEFS::HEELAN | Dale limosna, mujer...... | Thu Oct 21 1993 14:38 | 24 |
| How about this for a potential rationalefor Bell Atlantic (and others) ?
1. Computer and telecoms technologies are converging fast
2. Computer and telecoms end-user markets and offerings are converging
fast.
3. The evolution of transmission technology is outstripping the
PTOs business case for replacin g transmission paths, especially in
the local loop where the future demand for volum e traffic lies.
4. Higher-bandwidth transmission links need to be laid to the homes
to satisfy the latent demand for high-volume, low cost transmission
to support interactive gaming, HDTV applications, home commercial
services, video on demand,interactive video, virtual reality and so on..
5. The RBOCs captive local loop market is under attack from the radio
tail technology being offered by new kids on te block.
Thus the only way that PTOs (eg RBOCs) can protect themselves in the
local loop in the future is to team up with the entertainment industry.
Whether Digital remains a bystander supplier, or takes an integral part
in this growing trend, depends on the long-term vision of the
Corporation..... box-shifter or service provider ?
John
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2720.16 | DEC/Xerox Corporation | MR4DEC::LROSE | | Fri Oct 22 1993 14:51 | 8 |
| How about merging with XEROX to handle the document handling and
processing of the information in the superhighways of the future? We
compliment each other well in terms of core competencies and we would
make another $30B company.
Just my $.02.
..Larry
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2720.17 | Won't it be a paperless highway [snicker]? | CSOADM::ROTH | Hey, this toothpaste tastes like GLUE!! | Fri Oct 22 1993 15:13 | 0 |
2720.18 | makes sense | 36417::CHERSON | the door goes on the right | Sun Oct 24 1993 13:13 | 11 |
| >How about merging with XEROX to handle the document handling and
>processing of the information in the superhighways of the future? We
>compliment each other well in terms of core competencies and we would
>make another $30B company.
This makes more sense than merging with a telecom carrier, which would
be counter to our interests. Besides it would get Xerox away from
their addiction to Sun (which hasn't done much for their revenues), and
towards the rest of the industry.
/d.c.
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2720.19 | Apple Computer | VFOVAX::ZITELMAN | | Sun Oct 24 1993 20:31 | 4 |
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How about Apple Computer? I always thought we missed
a golden opportunity in the mid 80's when their stock
was relatively low. And it's low again now.
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2720.20 | | DRDAN::KALIKOW | I CyberSurf the Web on NCSA Mosaic | Sun Oct 24 1993 21:27 | 7 |
| I believe Apple Computer to now be too closely allied to IBM (Taligent,
Pink, PowerPC) to consider Digital's hypothetical suit. Furthermore,
we have rather hitched our wagon to Microsoft, have we not? And,
though Microsoft seems poised to win its long battle with Apple, surely
Mr. Gates, our putative partner, would not look kindly on such an idea.
Jmho.
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2720.21 | Why ? | CHEFS::HEELAN | Dale limosna, mujer...... | Mon Oct 25 1993 06:17 | 7 |
| re .18 Cherson <this would make more sense tha merging with a telecom
carrier, which would be counter to our interests>
I am interested in your reasoning for this statement, perhaps you would
elaborate.
John
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2720.22 | What about MS's other partners, Intel and MIPS? | DPDMAI::UNLAND | | Mon Oct 25 1993 18:02 | 19 |
| re: .20
>we have rather hitched our wagon to Microsoft, have we not? And,
>though Microsoft seems poised to win its long battle with Apple, surely
>Mr. Gates, our putative partner, would not look kindly on such an idea.
We may have adopted an O/S strategy based on Microsoft, but that
certainly doesn't make us partners. Bill Gates is well-reknown for
"partnering" with any and all takers, and it *always* benefits Bill
more than it does the "partner". Bill Gates looks out for himself,
we need to do the same.
That said, I think there would be many benefits to Digital by joining
with Apple, but I can't see what Apple would get out of the deal. I've
seen their first PowerPC Macs, and they absolutely scream. If the low
power 603 chip enhances the Newton to a similar degree, then Apple will
be a formidable contender in the technology wars.
Geoff
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