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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

2678.0. "LOST ENTRIES" by DWOMV2::KINNEY () Tue Sep 21 1993 15:27

    Could someone point me in the right direction....
    I have not been able to access DIGITAL_INVESTING
    or MARKETING_INVESTING on SUBWAY. Have these
    been moved and if so where?
    
    
                                             Thanks
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2678.1Worked fine last weekICS::DONNELLANTue Sep 21 1993 15:351
    Me either.  Has it moved?
2678.2THEBAY::CHABANEDSpasticus DyslexicusTue Sep 21 1993 16:025
    
    Gone the way of Pat Sweeney I suppose.
    
    -Ed
    
2678.3Deleted nodes?DYPSS1::COGHILLSteve Coghill, Luke 14:28Tue Sep 21 1993 16:372
   They may have been the victims of node deletion from ANCHOR:: because
   necessary paperwork was not filled out.
2678.4node is thereCVG::THOMPSONWho will rid me of this meddlesome priest?Tue Sep 21 1993 17:234
    RE: .3 No, the node is there and there are conferences on it. A number
    of conferences are missing though.
    
    		Alfred
2678.5Perhaps System Mangled?NYOS01::LABOMBARDNous Sommes Du SoleilTue Sep 21 1993 17:3310
    
    We have recently (yesterday) gone through a restructuring of our
    local cluster (read downsized!).
    
    Although I do not know what happened to these, other notes on SUBWAY::
    have made a transition and should be around, as others have noted.
    There may be an announcement on TURRIS::EASYNET_CONFERENCES.
    
    Brgds, Don (Moderator of SUBWAY::FPI, reader of SUBWAY::LOCAL)
    
2678.6SUBWAY was changed over the weekendMROA::NICHOLSTue Sep 21 1993 17:368
    The SUBWAY cluster was merged with another cluster at a New Jersey
    site (Princeton, I think).  The new cluster is called NYOSS or
    NYO or some such (I'll try to find out the precise name).  They
    were planning to keep the SUBWAY name as an alias so that notes
    file access wouldn't get hosed, but perhaps it has a new node
    address which hasn't been updated at your nearest router database.

    I'll post more info if I can find it.
2678.7It's now NYOSS1.. But..NYOS02::ROTHMANIPL31, or bust..Tue Sep 21 1993 19:2515
    Actually, the old SUBWAY cluster of 8700's and 6200's was replaced with
    2 4600's this weekend. The machines are named NYOS01, and NYOS02 with a
    cluster alias of NYOSS1.  For, compatibility purposes, a 3100 with an
    alias of SUBWAY was also temporarily glued into the cluster.  I don't
    know why the conf's aren't there, but I'll drop a vax-o-gram to the
    system manglers..
    
    From NCP on NYOSS1..    

    32.606 (NYOSS1)  <-New Cluster Alias
    32.627 (NYOS01)
    32.668 (NYOS02)
    32.116 (SUBWAY)

    -Andy (A mere mortal user on the ex-NY1MM, ex-SUBWAY, now NYOSS1 cluster)
2678.8regressionCVG::THOMPSONWho will rid me of this meddlesome priest?Wed Sep 22 1993 08:1212
    The renaming of the SUBWAY cluster is sad. Replacing a real name with
    a sequence of letters and numbers is a step backwards, away from the
    approachability and community of the past and a return to the days of
    operating for the computers rather than the users. 

    Names like BMT and IRT (names of previous nodes in the SUBWAY cluster
    have meaning and character for lots of people. They are the names of
    subway lines in the City. Now we see bland names symbolic of a location
    and, presumably, an organization to those who know the code. I thought 
    we'd grown past such.

    		Alfred
2678.9COFFEE::PFAUHit the button, FrankWed Sep 22 1993 10:564
    I just wonder if they'll change the name of the cluster with each
    change in the name of the organization...
    
    tom_p (the BMT line hasn't been renamed EVER that I know of)
2678.10Irving Pfau relation?DLO15::FRANCEYWed Sep 22 1993 12:049
    Remarking about lost names:
    
    Are you related to Irving or Erving Pfau?  He was the director of the
    first Master of Computer Science program at Bostun U.
    
    	Regards,
    
    	Ron
    
2678.11regression prompts digressionQBUS::M_PARISESouthern, but no comfortWed Sep 22 1993 13:4411
Re: .8 interesting observation

I am in agreement with this thought.  I feel this is just another
indication of the lack of personality of the new Digital image.  This
apparent distancing from the personal (associative/symbolic) ties
which exude warmth and togetherness, toward the de-humanizing
mediocrity of anonymity is a classic sign of an organization losing
touch with the people with whom it deals (both employees and customers).

See also note 2681 ...kinda along the same lines.
    
2678.12Customer Satisfaction?NYOS02::ROTHMANIPL31, or bust..Wed Sep 22 1993 13:5711
    I think the renaming was a poor idea.  Apparently it was more important
    for the Internal Systems Group (I forget their DECronym this week) to
    keep a standard name for their "site servers" than make it easy for
    their "customers" (meaning us).  So now we have to run around and get
    our new Vaxmail address changed on all the mail distribution list's
    we're on, change MTS routing, change ELF, blah-blah... What a pain.. 
    
    I appreciate ISG upgrading the machines, but, damn, SUBWAY should have
    been kept as the name..
    
    -Andy
2678.13still can not accessSWLAVC::HOSSEINIWed Sep 22 1993 14:234
    Back to the original note, I still can not access DIGITAL_INVESTING or
    MARKET_INVESTING.  I added NYOSS1:: to the entry but no luck.  Any
    ideas?
    
2678.14COFFEE::PFAUHit the button, FrankWed Sep 22 1993 14:385
    re: .10
    
    Not that I know of but anything is possible.
    
    tom_p
2678.15Disappearing NotesfilesMIMS::HUNT_BWed Sep 22 1993 14:544
    I haven't been able to access Digital Investing or ALPHAX::BASEBALL.  I
    get an unknown node when trying to access ALPHAX.
    
    Bing
2678.16QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centWed Sep 22 1993 15:366
    Please refer to TURRIS::EASYNET_CONFERENCES for all questions about
    the whereabouts of notes conferences.
    
    I have write-locked this topic.
    
    				Steve