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2533.1 | suggest you mail Al Peters @geo | LEMAN::SELBY | | Thu Jun 10 1993 15:07 | 1 |
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2533.2 | This Information May Also Help | GRANPA::WKOLLAR | | Thu Jun 10 1993 16:21 | 9 |
| There is a gentlemen in Harrisburg, PA by the name of Mark Reynolds who
is expecting an offer to be a Sales Manager in South Africa. Mark's
DTN is 348-4922. He returned this week from a series of interviews in
Geneva for the job. Mark, until the end of this fiscal year, is the
Account Set Manager for the Public Sector Group in Harrisburg. I'm
sure he could give you any information you need about the Digital
subsidiary which is being created in South Africa.
Regards,
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2533.3 | | ANARKY::BREWER | nevermind.... | Thu Jun 10 1993 18:02 | 4 |
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There was a spot on CNN this week about DEC's early re-involvement
with SA.
/john
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2533.4 | Press release contacts | ICS::JOHNSONL | | Mon Jun 14 1993 10:51 | 8 |
| The following contacts were on the original press release:
Mark Fredrickson - DTN 223-4930
Ken McDonnell - DTN 223-1035
Regards,
Leslie
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2533.5 | DIGITAL SA ANNOUNCEMENT | ASABET::MCDONNELL | | Mon Jun 14 1993 18:09 | 49 |
| Yes, Mark Fredrickson and I handled the May 25 public announcement of
Digital's entry into South Africa. BTW, the U.S. press has given
Digital a very positive response to this announcement, based largely on
what we believe to be an unprecedented endorsement by the African
National Congress (ANC) under Dr. Nelson Mandela. This endorsement,
given by a representative of Dr. Mandela at a reception in Johannesburg
hosted by the U.S. ambassador to SA, Princeton Lyman, before some 200
of SA's key business leaders, cited the "momentus occasion" of the
entry of Digital into SA. Among other things, this statement says, the
"...distribution of Digital materials inside South Africa ... becomes a
step towards the development of a new economy that we so urgently
need..."
I will be pleased to enter the entire ANC statement into this
conference if anyone would like to see it, as well as Digital's press
release. In addition, I will be happy to FAX or e-mail anyone the
announcement material.
A key element of this announcement was the introduction of Project
REACH, an innovative communinity educational development program
sponsored by Digital and adapted exclusively for SA youth from a
similar, highly successful program in Boston's inner city.
Education is a critical need in SA, where very, very few young people
from the historically disadvantaged communities ever finish their
schooling. The goal of REACH is to help young people stay in school so
they may provide the kind of leadership needed to raise SA out of the
deep recession plaguing the nation.
Suggest your contact the Project REACH director, Vikkee Love, who will
be relocating from Maynard to Johannesburg to assume a new role as
Marketing and Business Development Director for the new Digital
subsidiary. Vikkee is @MLO, DTN 223-2556. She can provide information
on the question about the university customer who recruits students
from SA.
John Sims, Vice President for Strategic Resources, was on hand in SA to
make this historic announcement for Digital. Our announcement followed
several years of intensive preparation, including consultation with all
the key political and anti-apartheid groups both here and in SA,
including Dr. Mandela. In fact, Alison Cooper of the Washington DC
based Investor Responsibility Research Center, was quoted in the Boston
Globe as saying, "They [Digital] clearly have done their homework on
this issue. I don't know of any other company that the ANC has given
this kind of endorsement to in a public way."
Ken
DTN 223-1035
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2533.6 | Massachusetts impacts | MEMIT::SILVERBERG_M | Mark Silverberg MLO1-5/B98 | Mon Aug 16 1993 07:05 | 96 |
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Edition : 2893 Monday 16-Aug-1993 Circulation : 6653
Digital - Massachusetts to penalize Digital for South Africa unit
{The Boston Globe, 12-Aug-93, p. 1}
When Digital announced in May that it was opening a marketing subsidiary in
South Africa, the Maynard-based company stressed that it was working in close
cooperation with antiapartheid forces. It even released the text of a speech,
in which the treasurer-general of the African National Congress termed
Digital's arrival cause for "celebration."
But even the ANC's endorsement isn't enough for the state of Massachusetts.
Under a 1990 executive order, the state must add a 10% penalty to bids
submitted from Digital because it operates in South Africa. And according to
the law, state pension funds that invest in Digital must dump their stock.
Bruce Holbein, assistant general counsel for the computer maker, said that
Digital has asked the state to waive the 10% penalty because it "followed the
spirit of the executive order" aimed at ending apartheid. But Susan Beck,
general counsel for the executive office of administration and finance,
contents that no such waiver exists.
While saying that "issue is under advisement," Beck pointed out that the
original order, signed by Gov. Michael Dukakis, sets forth specific conditions
under which the state can exempt companies. But the regulations "don't
forsee this kind of situation," she said.
Although he declined to provide numbers, Holbein described the state as a
"significant customer, and we value their business." He added that "it is
very frustrating for us. We took the risk to do what we thought was the right
thing. We were responding to the ANC's calls for foreign investment."
After shunning South Africa for two decades, Digital announced in May that
it would set up a marketing unit just outside of Johannesburg. Both Digital
officials and other observers had been expecting the US government to lift
trade sanctions with South Africa around July 1, when Digital planned to open
its doors. It hasn't yet happened. "Digital broke out of the block too
fast," said state Rep. Byron Rushing (D-South End). "They made a mistake."
The company first began appealing to the Weld administration to make an
exception in late June, Rushing said. He said that the Digital lobbyist who
called him earlier this week received an unsympathetic ear. "Digital should
just live with it," Rushing said yesterday. "They should just take their
lumps."
About a year and a half ago, Cambridge-based Lotus Development similarly
began doing business in South Africa. But Rebecca Steel, a spokeswoman for
the $900 million software company, said that Lotus does not sell directly to
the state, but uses resellers. Rushing said that the "numbers are much
smaller for Lotus, anyway."
But Holbein said that Digital - which has recently turned a quarterly
profit for the first time in two years - wants to be included in the state's
pending "blanket procurement," a catalog for state agencies looking for
products and services. "If our price in the catalog was increased by 10%,
that would be very detrimental," Holbein said. "What we are doing now is
supporting and accelerating the end of apartheid so it is consistent with the
underlying intend [sic - TT] of the executive order."
According to Holbein, the state must make a decision by Sept. 3. "We
believe that they are taking it under serious consideration," Holbein said.
"We have an open and active dialog with them."
If Digital were to receive some sort of exemption, it would not affect
pension investments in the company's stock. By law, public pension funds must
divest their Digital stock within three months of Digital's entry into South
Africa. Paul Doane, executive director of the Pension Reserve Management
Board, said that "by the end of this month, I would anticipate we would be
fully divested from Digital."
While Holbein said that Digital had not anticipated the state's reaction,
Rushing said that Digital "knew what was going to happen. This is not a
surprise to them." Rushing said that John L. Sims, the Digital VP who shaped
the company's South Africa strategy, sent him a note last week asking for his
support.
Sims, who retired from Digital last week, did not return two messages left
at his home.
When it announced its plans to enter South Africa, Digital said that it had
worked with several officials over two years, including ANC president Nelson
Mandela. Digital's approach involved setting up a black-owned computer
company to serve as its partner in South Africa, as well as starting a branch
of Project Reach, a youth leadership program.
The executive order states that companies can be exempted from the 10%
penalty only if they are providing parts or service for existing equipment,
offering medical supplies for which there is no substitute, have pre-existing
contractual agreements with the state, or are operating in South Africa for
news-gathering purposes. "We're sympathetic to what Digital is saying, but it
doesn't fit with the waiver provisions that exist," said Beck.
She said that "we cannot lightly grant wavers of this important executive
order before we are satisfied that the circumstances which led to the
promulgation of the order have been resolved."
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2533.7 | | SPECXN::BLEY | | Mon Aug 16 1993 11:54 | 6 |
| Sounds like TAXachusetts is trying to be a dictator. If we are moving
out of the Mill, there is nothing left to hold us there. I say get the
H^&&*^ out of there. Move Corporate headquarters to another place...
with less taxes and fewer dictator laws.
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2533.8 | | POWDML::MACINTYRE | | Mon Aug 16 1993 15:07 | 23 |
| re .7
Spend a lot of time on that entry I bet.
>out of the Mill, there is nothing left to hold us there.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Briefly, Digital in MA consists of:
33 sites in 22 communities
20,051 employees
over 7 million sqft of building space
employees donated (with corp match) over $1.25m t nonprofit orgs
another $1.5m went to various United Ways
just under 20,000 employees live in MA
Maybe I'm wrong but it kinda looks like there is a lot keeping Digital
in MA. Did I miss something? Something that makes sense that is.
Respectfully,
Marv
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2533.9 | | GLDOA::JWYSOCKI | flippin' eggs & flippin' out | Mon Aug 16 1993 15:39 | 6 |
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re .7 & .8
Was the author of .7 possibly suggesting that Digital change the stae
in which it is ioncorporated? (Probably a long and involved process)
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2533.10 | Check out other states | SPECXN::BLEY | | Tue Aug 17 1993 16:29 | 14 |
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I used to live in New Hampshire, and work in Mass. So, I paid Mass
(high) income tax and New Hampshire (high) property tax.
Although I am out of both states now, you won't get my vote to stay
in Mass.
I would also "guess" that your figures are not quite right. If there
***are*** 20,051 employees in Mass. then I would bet that less than
20,000 live there. I (used to be able to) name more than 51 employees
who lived in another state, and worked in Mass.
The point is, that Mass is trying to get companies every which way they
can.
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2533.11 | | RAGMOP::FARINA | | Tue Aug 17 1993 16:36 | 7 |
| Marv's figures may *not* be wrong. There are *many* Massachusetts
residents who work in NH for example (talk about the worst of both
worlds - you get to pay the high MA taxes, but if you get laid off, you
get NH's lousy unemployment).
Susan
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2533.12 | | SNELL::ROBERTS | you don't get down from a mountain | Tue Aug 17 1993 16:44 | 2 |
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that's the risk you take to avoid the Mass income tax.
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2533.13 | Has this note gotten a bit disconnected from facts? | HYDRA::BECK | Paul Beck | Tue Aug 17 1993 17:06 | 8 |
| Say wha'? If you live in MA and work in NH, you *pay* MA income tax.
RE a few notes back - I'm not clear on how moving the company out of MA
would cause us to get more favorable contracts with the state. The note
describing the sanctions were with respect to business done with the
state itself, not in general, and I'd assume the same sanctions would
apply to out-of-state companies who were "guilty" of the same "crimes".
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2533.14 | More then Income Tax involved | TELGAR::WAKEMANLA | Where's the last End If? | Wed Aug 18 1993 13:37 | 10 |
| There is more then the 50K peoples incmoe taxes involved. There are
also business taxes, property taxes, service industry support. Digital
is still (I think) the number 1 employer in MA. Now if we move
engineering to Texas, Michigan or Oregon (3 states that are very
aggressive about recruiting new industry) MA would lose big time.
Maybe we don't have to move, just threaten to.
Larry
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2533.15 | Raytheon is #1 MA. employer | AKOCOA::BBLANCHARD | | Wed Aug 18 1993 14:52 | 1 |
| Digital is the # 2 employer in Mass., Raytheon is # 1.
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2533.16 | If #1's Important | ELMAGO::PUSSERY | | Wed Aug 18 1993 18:08 | 9 |
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O.K., I'll plug New Mexico for the location, Land Of Enchantment,
and it won't take much to be number one at anything..........
except nuclear fision.
Pablo
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2533.17 | But New Mexico is too hot, no trees, etc. :) | ALAMOS::ADAMS | Visualize Whirled Peas! | Mon Aug 23 1993 21:24 | 5 |
| re: .16
That's fission Pablo, fission. :)
--- Gavin
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2533.18 | MASS. SANCTIONS BLASTED | ASABET::MCDONNELL | | Tue Sep 07 1993 17:46 | 14 |
| Re: .6, readers may want to refer to the editorials that appeared in
the August 14 issue of the Boston Globe ["A misplaced penalty on
Digital"] and the August 16 issue of the Quincy, MA, Patriot Ledger
["Lift sanctions on South Africa"]. Both are supportive of Digital's
entry into South Africa and our much-needed investment in the new South
Africa. Both are critical of "onerous and misguided state sanctions,"
as the Globe opined.
I'll be pleased to input the full text of these pieces if readers would
like to see them.
Ken
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2533.19 | nits? | NOVA::FISHER | US Patent 5225833 | Wed Sep 08 1993 12:41 | 8 |
| Isn't it "Digital is the #2 Industrial Private Employer in Massachusetts"?
"The telephone company" is usually the number 1 non-public employer
in any state, thaough that may have chenged after the breakup of Ma
Bell. Then, of course, Massachusetts might even have more employees
than DEC.
ed
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2533.20 | Methought Raytheon was #1 in MA? | DRDAN::KALIKOW | Supplely Chained | Wed Sep 08 1993 21:46 | 1 |
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2533.21 | To contact Digital in South Africa..... | JOBURG::HARRIS | | Fri Jul 15 1994 08:43 | 12 |
| Digital South Africa: Primary Language: English.
For VTX ELF; Location: JHB, Node: JOBURG.
For locations in South Africa, See VTX Sites. Location: JHB
Mailstop: JHB/02
DTN:7-756 Operator: Directline:*27-11-884-6283.
Afterhrs: Directline:*27-11-320-4380.
Operator: DTN: 7-756-4380.
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2533.22 | Digital in South Africa | JOBURG::HARRIS | | Tue Sep 27 1994 10:25 | 14 |
| Digital South Africa: Primary Language: English.
For VTX ELF; Location: JHB, Node: JOBURG.
For locations in South Africa, See VTX Sites. Location: JHB
Mailstop: JHB/02
DTN:7-756 Switchboard: Directline:*27-11-320-4300
Operator: Directline:*27-11-884-6283.
Afterhrs: Directline:*27-11-320-4380.
Operator: DTN: 7-756-4380.
Fax: *27-11-320-4342
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2533.23 | Digital in South Africa <Postal & Physical address> | JOBURG::HARRIS | | Tue Sep 27 1994 10:31 | 16 |
| Digital South Africa:
Physical Address
Digital South Africa
Digital House
Norwich Park, Park Lane
Sandton, Johannesburg
South Africa
Postal Address
Digital South Africa
P.O.Box 651042
Benmore 2010
South Africa.
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2533.24 | Hello From Warrington | WOTVAX::MACDONALDI | Stalybridge Celtic | Wed Sep 28 1994 04:55 | 7 |
| re -: last two
Hello Ivan,
Strange where you crop up every so often.
Ian
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2533.25 | (00) | JOBURG::SADLER | | Thu Oct 13 1994 11:20 | 1 |
| Big Bro' is WATCHIN!!!!
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2533.26 | MCS Tollfree number in South Africa. 0-800-115-339 | JOBURG::HARRIS | | Fri Dec 30 1994 07:50 | 9 |
| Digital South Africa -
For those who have companies with Branches/Subsiduaries in South Africa...
Service Calls (Multivendor Customer Services) in South Africa
call Tollfree 0-800-115-339 or Direct [*27] (0)11 320 4300
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2533.28 | South Africa Cape Town. | JOBURG::HARRIS | | Sat May 20 1995 08:09 | 10 |
| Digital South Africa Cape Town Branch Office. - Primary Language: English.
For locations in South Africa, See VTX Sites. Location: CPT
Mailstop: CPT/01
DTN:none Directline:*27-21-419-3730.
Directline:*27-21-419-3729.
Fax: *27-21-419-3601
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2533.29 | Cape Town , South Africa. | JOBURG::HARRIS | | Thu Mar 28 1996 05:17 | 12 |
| re .28
Addional info : Cape Town, South Africa.
Digital Sales & Services SA PTY (Ltd)
Suite 2F, 2nd Floor
Nautica, The Water Club,
Granger Bay, Mouille Point,
Cape Town, South Africa
Telephone: *21 21 4193730
Telephone: *21 21 4193729
Fax : *27 21 4173601
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2533.29 | Cape Town CPT/04 | JOBURG::HARRIS | | Wed Feb 12 1997 16:38 | 12 |
| re .28
Addional info : Cape Town, South Africa.
Digital Sales & Services SA PTY (Ltd)
Suite 2F, 2nd Floor
Nautica, The Water Club,
Granger Bay, Mouille Point,
Cape Town, South Africa
Telephone: *21 21 419-3730
Telephone: *21 21 419-3729
Fax : *27 21 419-3601
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